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Sam bobcat
10/17/2018 1:47 PM
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A few things about the press conference. Coach Solich said that we should not have ran to the outside, that to me is wrong, that is how you keep a pass rush in check, you make them guess and set the edge with screens and options. He also praised the secondary, in reality northern Illinois dropped a lot of balls, they also outcoached us, they noticed that we face guard wide receivers so on the first pass interference, when Hudson reached his hand out, the wide receiver grabbed him and pulled him into him. Northern Illinois saw that on film and exploited that, he also called Ohio a well disciplined football team, that is absolutely crazy. I still like FS but he needs to be better at assessing our team. The rest I thought was spot on.

Well, now that you've taught Frank that his philosophy is "wrong", I am sure he's in his office right now re-thinking all he knows about football and especially the running game.


OHIO is #43 in the nation in fewest penalties. #2 in the MAC, so yeah, Frank's comments have relevance based in statistics.
Discipline also involves not blowing coverages and not missing blocking assignments.
You spend 10 months every year talking about how great our talent is, how great our coaches are, then you spend 2 months every year trying to invite players for an interview at the Saudi Consulate. Amazing
For somebody that tells on everybody, you don’t hesitate to lie. We are 68th in penalty yards and if you take into account our strength of schedule, it is worst. We are second in the Mac east, not second in the MAC. Maybe, I should tell on you, lol. We are not a very disciplined team, we are mediocre at best. You have once again found a way to frame a better moral victory than mad dog. Note to self, cross reference everything that btc submits. https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/penalt...
Hey Einstein, I said PENALITIES PER GAME, that is different from penalty yards per game, which is what you linked. I guess your reading comprehension is still a bit lacking. I’m also not sure what this latest kick of trying to insult is about, but it’s not working. Bottom line, my post was factual, and you have a hard time with that.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/penalt...

Nice try though, must suck to think you just burned someone, yet you learn you yourself cannot read 😂

You tried to cherry pick a stat with your medio bias. Yes against an fcs doormat and a fbs doormat, we did not have that many penalties, but we have the worst penalties, 15 yard pass interference automatic first downs and holds on offense that are drive killers. Did I burn you? No, I caught you cherry picking, we are not a disciplined team yet, we give up explosive plays on third down and long, we probably lead the country in opposing 1,2 or 3 play drives. Did I teach FS, no I disagreed with three things that he said and gave supporting details on why.
Did not Cherry Pick anything, I confirmed Frank's comments that you disagree with. Again, you spend 10 months talking about how great all our talent is, how great our coaches are, then you get butt hurt when they do not meet your expectations and you want to fire everyone. You would fit in great over at bucknuts.com

After we beat BGSU you will be back on how great our players are and how we are winning the MACC.

I think you have me mixed up with someone else, I love some of our players and I I believe we need to improve at several positions. I am on record saying that we need to recruit better, I am on record also saying that certain players will be good. As far as firing the whole staff, if I were FS, I would fire the defensive coordinator and the defensive backs coach, if he can’t do that than we need to move on from him. I like FS, he is a tough Clevelander, I never go into a game believing that we will lose because I know our potential, but we rarely play to our potential. We are not very disciplined, we miss tackles, we blow coverages, and we get pi’s every week because of face guarding. I like our corner backs ironically, I just believe that they are not being taught well. I feel the same way about our safeties. I am not leaving the site, even if you tell on me. If you don’t know, now you know. Go Cats
I believe the woe’s on defense are due to inexperience not discipline. Except the db’s, I agree with you that they aren’t being coached properly.
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allen
10/17/2018 4:34 PM
Sam bobcat wrote:expand_more
A few things about the press conference. Coach Solich said that we should not have ran to the outside, that to me is wrong, that is how you keep a pass rush in check, you make them guess and set the edge with screens and options. He also praised the secondary, in reality northern Illinois dropped a lot of balls, they also outcoached us, they noticed that we face guard wide receivers so on the first pass interference, when Hudson reached his hand out, the wide receiver grabbed him and pulled him into him. Northern Illinois saw that on film and exploited that, he also called Ohio a well disciplined football team, that is absolutely crazy. I still like FS but he needs to be better at assessing our team. The rest I thought was spot on.

Well, now that you've taught Frank that his philosophy is "wrong", I am sure he's in his office right now re-thinking all he knows about football and especially the running game.


OHIO is #43 in the nation in fewest penalties. #2 in the MAC, so yeah, Frank's comments have relevance based in statistics.
Discipline also involves not blowing coverages and not missing blocking assignments.
You spend 10 months every year talking about how great our talent is, how great our coaches are, then you spend 2 months every year trying to invite players for an interview at the Saudi Consulate. Amazing
For somebody that tells on everybody, you don’t hesitate to lie. We are 68th in penalty yards and if you take into account our strength of schedule, it is worst. We are second in the Mac east, not second in the MAC. Maybe, I should tell on you, lol. We are not a very disciplined team, we are mediocre at best. You have once again found a way to frame a better moral victory than mad dog. Note to self, cross reference everything that btc submits. https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/penalt...
Hey Einstein, I said PENALITIES PER GAME, that is different from penalty yards per game, which is what you linked. I guess your reading comprehension is still a bit lacking. I’m also not sure what this latest kick of trying to insult is about, but it’s not working. Bottom line, my post was factual, and you have a hard time with that.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/penalt...

Nice try though, must suck to think you just burned someone, yet you learn you yourself cannot read 😂

You tried to cherry pick a stat with your medio bias. Yes against an fcs doormat and a fbs doormat, we did not have that many penalties, but we have the worst penalties, 15 yard pass interference automatic first downs and holds on offense that are drive killers. Did I burn you? No, I caught you cherry picking, we are not a disciplined team yet, we give up explosive plays on third down and long, we probably lead the country in opposing 1,2 or 3 play drives. Did I teach FS, no I disagreed with three things that he said and gave supporting details on why.
Did not Cherry Pick anything, I confirmed Frank's comments that you disagree with. Again, you spend 10 months talking about how great all our talent is, how great our coaches are, then you get butt hurt when they do not meet your expectations and you want to fire everyone. You would fit in great over at bucknuts.com

After we beat BGSU you will be back on how great our players are and how we are winning the MACC.

I think you have me mixed up with someone else, I love some of our players and I I believe we need to improve at several positions. I am on record saying that we need to recruit better, I am on record also saying that certain players will be good. As far as firing the whole staff, if I were FS, I would fire the defensive coordinator and the defensive backs coach, if he can’t do that than we need to move on from him. I like FS, he is a tough Clevelander, I never go into a game believing that we will lose because I know our potential, but we rarely play to our potential. We are not very disciplined, we miss tackles, we blow coverages, and we get pi’s every week because of face guarding. I like our corner backs ironically, I just believe that they are not being taught well. I feel the same way about our safeties. I am not leaving the site, even if you tell on me. If you don’t know, now you know. Go Cats
I believe the woe’s on defense are due to inexperience not discipline. Except the db’s, I agree with you that they aren’t being coached properly.
I can agree with that.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
10/17/2018 7:56 PM
I will say I blame the linebackers. Not because they aren't as good as last year, but our over-reliance by our coaching staff to account for the other personnel. Again, I am not blaming them, just simply saying our LBs covered a lot of ground and where our secondary was supposed to cover never materialized and in turn has hurt us defensively.
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Sam bobcat
10/18/2018 9:34 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
I will say I blame the linebackers. Not because they aren't as good as last year, but our over-reliance by our coaching staff to account for the other personnel. Again, I am not blaming them, just simply saying our LBs covered a lot of ground and where our secondary was supposed to cover never materialized and in turn has hurt us defensively.
I have to disagree with you on that. We aren’t getting torched on short and intermediate routes. We are getting torched on deep routes down the middle and boundaries. That’s the safeties and cornerbacks. I think they have the talent but maybe not the technique required to stop these big plays. The linebackers aren’t as good as last years yet. We had two talented seniors in that group. But I don’t see the linebackers coverage as being the big reason for our pass defense’s problems. Conner has missed on a couple really good throws and catches, but he wasn’t torched. He was right there contesting. Dorsa’s zone coverage improves every game. As these young players gain experience they will continue to improve their game. The db’ are biting on things they shouldn’t be and allowing receivers to get over the top way to often and then face guarding and getting penalized.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
10/18/2018 1:40 PM
Sam bobcat wrote:expand_more
I will say I blame the linebackers. Not because they aren't as good as last year, but our over-reliance by our coaching staff to account for the other personnel. Again, I am not blaming them, just simply saying our LBs covered a lot of ground and where our secondary was supposed to cover never materialized and in turn has hurt us defensively.
I have to disagree with you on that. We aren’t getting torched on short and intermediate routes. We are getting torched on deep routes down the middle and boundaries. That’s the safeties and cornerbacks. I think they have the talent but maybe not the technique required to stop these big plays. The linebackers aren’t as good as last years yet. We had two talented seniors in that group. But I don’t see the linebackers coverage as being the big reason for our pass defense’s problems. Conner has missed on a couple really good throws and catches, but he wasn’t torched. He was right there contesting. Dorsa’s zone coverage improves every game. As these young players gain experience they will continue to improve their game. The db’ are biting on things they shouldn’t be and allowing receivers to get over the top way to often and then face guarding and getting penalized.
What I am saying is that our linebackers covered a lot for the other units. And when our LB's are "rebuilding" and we expected our secondary to step up, they have flopped.

Wasn't insulting our linebackers at all. Simply saying our over-reliance to cover ground in the past is catching up to our units this year.....
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Obc2
10/18/2018 1:48 PM
in vegas for jimmy buffett weekend concert. i saw the -16.5 this morning having coffee in an empty sportsbook, while wearing an Ohio University shirt. (first comment was "niiiiiiice halloween" from a thirtysomething. hiya back!)

i hope to tailgate for the concert watching this game. Go Bobcats!
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davepi2
10/18/2018 4:11 PM
A lot of speculation on D3 message boards that Vince Kehres could be the next head coach at BG. Bo Pelini is a better bet though.
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Sam bobcat
10/18/2018 5:40 PM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
I will say I blame the linebackers. Not because they aren't as good as last year, but our over-reliance by our coaching staff to account for the other personnel. Again, I am not blaming them, just simply saying our LBs covered a lot of ground and where our secondary was supposed to cover never materialized and in turn has hurt us defensively.
I have to disagree with you on that. We aren’t getting torched on short and intermediate routes. We are getting torched on deep routes down the middle and boundaries. That’s the safeties and cornerbacks. I think they have the talent but maybe not the technique required to stop these big plays. The linebackers aren’t as good as last years yet. We had two talented seniors in that group. But I don’t see the linebackers coverage as being the big reason for our pass defense’s problems. Conner has missed on a couple really good throws and catches, but he wasn’t torched. He was right there contesting. Dorsa’s zone coverage improves every game. As these young players gain experience they will continue to improve their game. The db’ are biting on things they shouldn’t be and allowing receivers to get over the top way to often and then face guarding and getting penalized.
What I am saying is that our linebackers covered a lot for the other units. And when our LB's are "rebuilding" and we expected our secondary to step up, they have flopped.

Wasn't insulting our linebackers at all. Simply saying our over-reliance to cover ground in the past is catching up to our units this year.....
I’m sure you’re right about that contributing.
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allen
10/18/2018 7:45 PM
The linebackers have been solid, I just have on gripe, they have a hard time getting off blocks. The middle of the field was wide open last week, I think that they should use their athleticism more to get off blocks, they often use their toughness and get held. I also think that the starters may take too many snaps, they seem to wear down, I think that both of these issues fall on Burrow’s shoulders.
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Ted Thompson
10/19/2018 9:29 AM

The Wild Honeybees To Perform At Bobcat Nation Pavilion This Saturday

The Wild Honeybees To Perform At Bobcat Nation Pavilion This Saturday

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Pataskala
10/19/2018 11:30 AM
Was thinking this morning that we're nine points away from being 5-1 (if we had five more points at Cincy and four more at NIU) but we're also nine points away from being 1-5 (if Howard had seven more and Kent two more). How you do in close games can make or break a season.

BG's position wouldn't change much -- just two games decided by a TD and they're 1-1 in them. They were blown out in the other five games. Eight more points at WMU would've gotten them a win and maybe saved Jinks' job, but they still would be only 2-5. My guess is that Pelini is telling them they're 0-0 and that their season starts tomorrow. We might see a different BG team tomorrow.
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71 BOBCAT
10/19/2018 11:47 AM
I have read through all the articles this week and have seen the current point spread, -17. I wonder if the odds makers take a coaching change into effect? Anyone know?
The only wild card to this game is the impact of the coaching change, otherwise we should win.
I am thinking that if we start slow, again, and BG can take a 14 or so point lead they will, more than likely, be energized for the balance of the game.
On the other hand I we can come out motivated and we take a 14 or so point lead they could become demoralized and we go to win easily.



GO BOBCATS
Last Edited: 10/19/2018 11:49:18 AM by 71 BOBCAT
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UpSan Bobcat
10/19/2018 12:31 PM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
I have read through all the articles this week and have seen the current point spread, -17. I wonder if the odds makers take a coaching change into effect? Anyone know?
Odds makers take into account anything they think bettors will take into account. I'm sure some people bet with that in mind but I doubt it has a huge impact overall. I doubt it changes the odds more than a point. The odds get adjusted as needed to try to get similar amounts of money on each side.
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10/20/2018 1:06 PM
BGSUcks 21
OHIO 42
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ohio9704
10/20/2018 2:10 PM
DB's torched for a long TD, didnt see that one coming.
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AlumDadDad
10/20/2018 2:12 PM
Well, nice to know that some things are constant. We're going to start like this again. Long bomb, 7-0 against what is the worst team in the conference. The Chomolungma is delicious, though.
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allen
10/20/2018 2:25 PM
Let’s hope Brooks is not hurt, he laid a big hit. BG got their fast receiver on one of our not that fast safeties and it was an easy touchdown. You either need to play 10 yards off or jam the receiver. Go Cats
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allen
10/20/2018 2:26 PM
Great open field tackle by Crouch
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Bobcat1998
10/20/2018 2:47 PM
Is it too much to ask for a complete game from this team against a 1-6 team???
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allen
10/20/2018 2:56 PM
Crouch and Papi vs BGSU. Go Cats
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AlumDadDad
10/20/2018 3:21 PM
Rourke's ellusiveness continues to amaze me. Crazy thought, but with his open field ability, some work on routes and receiving... future Julian Edelman?
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allen
10/20/2018 3:51 PM
Albin was having a great day until that third and long designed qb run where rourke got popped, throw the ball, don’t get conservative. Please let Kittrell be ok.
Great to see Grimes get some snaps, he always the strength coach’s workout warrior list during the spring.
Last Edited: 10/20/2018 4:38:31 PM by allen
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Bcat2
10/20/2018 8:22 PM
49-14. WoW!!!! Just home from helping my son with a basement remodel. So very happy for the team. I am sure they wanted a fine Homecoming for the 68 team. Congratulations to all. MACtion. I am especially happy for the seniors who delivered a great and memorable Homecoming.
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colobobcat66
10/20/2018 11:33 PM
A revealing way to look at the offense today -63 plays -32 first downs -7 touchdowns. Pretty efficient.
Probably a couple of those first downs by penalty, but that’s still okay.
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