Thank you. Made me look at the 14 years before coach Solich. I get 50-104-2, winning percentage of 32% and 28 games below .500. 30 games above, not to shabby, when you came from 28 below.
Note. If Frost does not get Nebraska turned around soon coach Solich will have Ohio, see above, winning at a higher rate than the Huskers over the period since he left. That could be the result of consistency. There are those who would trade that for a single CC.
Your ability to continue to compare apples to oranges is fascinating.
I'm not going to dig too deep in to your ridiculous comparisons of Nebraska football and Ohio football. A team that has won ZERO conference titles in 50 years to a program that has 46 bowl appearances, 18 conference titles, and FIVE national titles in the last 50 years.
Tom Osbourne never lost more than 3 games in a season. 24 years. Frank Solich lost 4 in his first year at Nebraska. Am I saying Solich deserved to be run out of Lincoln ... no. Absolutely not. But quit acting like Nebraska ran football's equivalent to John Wooden out of UCLA.
Nebraska's downfall wasn't as much about Solich's departure as it was about their move to the Big 10. Callahan set them back years ... and the switch to B1G helped cripple them more.
Either way ... winning in the Big 12 or Big Ten is FAR more difficult than it is to run up a 58% win percentage in the MAC East.
Oh wait. Nebraska has already done that! They're 111-71 in the last 14 years with a 5-6 bowl record and five division titles. That's a .609 win percentage. Which is understandably frustrating for a fan base that has seen conference titles and national titles in the last half century.
Are the glory days of Nebraska football in the rearview mirror ... most likely? I'm guessing Scott Frost doesn't agree ... nor does their rabid fan base. And while their expectations of challenging for national titles again might be far-fetched ... it's understandable at least.
What were the expectations of Ohio football for those 14 years before Solich arrived? What was energy around it?
I'd wager to say both were approximately ZERO.
What reason did Ohio football give to fans to be excited or to have any expectations?
Let's make it an even 15 years ... from 1990-2004. That's Tom Lichtenberg, Jim Grobe and Brian Knorr.
There were two winning seasons during that time period. An 8-3 and 7-4 year during the Grobe era ... both resulting in no bowl game because there were not 40 bowl games back then and 6+ MAC teams didn't "earn" bowl bids.
Other than that you were littered with 7 seasons that saw 2 or less wins ... and a lot of other forgettable years.
Other than maybe a couple years under Grobe, was Ohio expected to do anything in terms of competing for a league title? Did fans care? Did anyone take notice at all during that time?
I'm going to say barely, if at all.
How is that comparable to the Solich era? From the time he stepped on campus in Athens, expectations rose. As you've said multiple times, this was a coach who led Nebraska to the national championship game!
How could Ohio fans not have expectations?!
So after elevating the program from the depths of despair and into a very competitive MAC program ... the expectations aren't allowed to rise with it?
We should just be ecstatic that Ohio is now a 7.5-5.35 program the last 14 years! We should not aspire for anything greater ... and anyone who would want to see Ohio continue to improve as a program should just stop and bathe in the waters of a winning percentage of 58%?
C'mon man. You can't be serious.
Having the same expectations for 2018 Ohio football as you had for 2004 Ohio football is just absurd.
Ohio has improved leaps and bounds in these last 14 years .... but expectations shouldn't?
In 2004, nobody was thinking MAC title ... so when they failed to achieve it ... it obviously is no big deal.
But in 2018, when Ohio was projected to win the MAC title ... and then they failed to achieve it ... it obviously isn't a big deal. Fans cannot be disappointed or frustrated?
Yep. That comparison seems absolutely fair.
This isn't 1997 ... when Grobe and the 'Cats were on a magic carpet ride starting 8-1 and controlling their destiny for a MAC division title. They fell short their final two games and it was a total bummer. But, man, what a season that was! After 15 years without a winning record, falling short of the MAC title and finishing 8-3 was a pretty good consolation.
But here we are ... over 20 years later ... with 4 division titles ... 9 winning seasons ... and we're supposed to think going 8-4 is a good consolation for a team that was projected to not just win the division, but win the championship game?
Talk about apples and oranges.
But keep comparing current era Ohio football to that forgettable era of 1990-2004. Keep the expectations even steven. Fits well with your narrative.
58% of the time ... it works every time.
Last Edited: 11/28/2018 3:22:02 PM by bshot44