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Posted: 9/8/2010 9:53 AM
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Quit showing your penis envy of those guys.


Don't you find it funny that some always have to tie everything into that school?  Makes me chuckle every time, some spend more time hating on them then they do loving the Green and White.

I never said I didn't like it, I think if you read, I find it funny.  I love the entertainment value of it.  If one takes offense to the comments their may be some truth lying with that individual, otherwise they wouldn't be offended.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 10:27 AM
John C. Wanamaker wrote:expand_more
Quit showing your penis envy of those guys.


Don't you find it funny that some always have to tie everything into that school?  Makes me chuckle every time, some spend more time hating on them then they do loving the Green and White.


Everything?  Spend more time hating on them then they do loving the Green and White?  yea right.  DA you are completely correct.  Folks can get all over Miami, but say anything counter to OSU and it is as if you have attacked someone's child.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 10:36 AM
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They would have never been able to saddle VT with a quick 17 points in the first quarter like Boise experimenting down the field as they do. I'd love to see VT smack OSU upside the head in a future game, that I could go for.


Did you watch this game!?  The only reason Boise 'saddled' a quick 17 points was because VT fumbled a snap and had a punt blocked.  Boise was not experimenting down the field.

VTech has a series scheduled with OSU in 2014 and 2015, so you'll get to see something.  It sure won't be VT smacking anybody upside the head, because really, when was the last time they have smacked anyone upside the head.  Try not losing 3 games a season and winning a BCS bowl.  VT is annually overrated every single season.

Call Tressel boring all you want.  I won't be arguing a whole lot.  But in his case, oftentimes, boring = wins.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 10:38 AM
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Quit showing your penis envy of those guys.



Don't you find it funny that some always have to tie everything into that school?  Makes me chuckle every time, some spend more time hating on them then they do loving the Green and White.


Everything?  Spend more time hating on them then they do loving the Green and White?  yea right.  DA you are completely correct.  Folks can get all over Miami, but say anything counter to OSU and it is as if you have attacked someone's child.


That's just it, Miami is our rival, 2nd would probably be Marshall, but a large % of discussions regarding other teams is taken up by the Ag School up the road.  And for the record, I have defended Miami when it was warrented.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 10:51 AM
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How many BCS wins and championships would Saban or Meyer coaching a decade at Ohio State? Would they ever be willing to coach at a place so void of class and style as Columbus? Think back on the coaches, Cooper, Bruce, Hayes none of those guys had the charisma to get a hip coaching job. If Tressel was anything he'd be somewhere else.


Wes, your ignorance is blinding at times.  I really am not sure if you process your thoughts before you key them.  I'm all for opinions, but try to at least back it was a coherent argument.  Void of class and style?  Tressel defines class.  The guy is so dull and PC it is painful at times.  He just keeps winning.  Hayes had no charisma?  Where else Tressel go Wes?  The NFL?  How did that work for Saban?  Tressel has one of the top 5 coaching jobs in the country.  And don't kid yourself, Urban Meyer would bolt Gainesville for Columbus tomorrow if the opportunity arose.  He's from Ohio and most of his family still resides here.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 10:54 AM
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 . . .  And for the record, I have defended Miami when it was warranted.
  That's possible? 
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Posted: 9/8/2010 10:57 AM
LOL....yes it is possible, rare but possible.  I really like the direction Mike Haywood is moving and I think they are on their way back.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:01 AM
I agree that Haywood appears to be a good coach and has the program going in the right direction.  However, I'd never get caught defending Oxford Tech in public!
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:07 AM
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Hayes had no charisma?


He had plenty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmoIjMr1BZs
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:34 AM
I had forgotten how clueless the announcers were about the punch that Hayes threw.  I remember when I was watching this game I saw the punch in real time -- as did nearly everyone else watching at home.  A shameful episode in sports journalism. 
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Posted: 9/8/2010 12:28 PM
Let's not get lost in the negative around this event, Woody did many good things in his life.  It is very sad that all his good is washed away by one or two incidents that everyone remembers.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 12:48 PM
Woody's dead who cares.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 12:51 PM
Respectfully, that event plus many episodes of physical abuse on his own players are the only memories I have of Woodrow, and I'm OK with that, so you can spare us the history lesson.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 1:02 PM
Do you think Bill Hess never grabbed on of his own players facemask?  Bear Bryant was brutal to his players and that is well documented.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 2:28 PM
John C. Wanamaker wrote:expand_more
Quit showing your penis envy of those guys.



Don't you find it funny that some always have to tie everything into that school?  Makes me chuckle every time, some spend more time hating on them then they do loving the Green and White.


Everything?  Spend more time hating on them then they do loving the Green and White?  yea right.  DA you are completely correct.  Folks can get all over Miami, but say anything counter to OSU and it is as if you have attacked someone's child.


That's just it, Miami is our rival, 2nd would probably be Marshall, but a large % of discussions regarding other teams is taken up by the Ag School up the road.  And for the record, I have defended Miami when it was warrented.


I would give up the next 10 against Miami to get 1 against OSU and I don't think I'm alone. You can only see so much scarlett and gray in Athens before you start to lose it a little.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 4:58 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/boise-state-win-should-be-celebrated-not-denigrated

Don't agree with him often, but I think Whitlock nails it here.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 5:05 PM
Without a doubt the win should be celebrated.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 5:55 PM
Well, I've had several personal encounters with WWH.  Yes, he did have a charming side to him.  He did do some very good things in his life.  In my own personal encounters, I can recall two that were most pleasant, one that was funny, and one that showed the ugly side of the man.  We are all human and we all have our faults.  Though I rooted against his teams almost every time they took the field, I'm willing to forgive his abusive actions toward me in the one sitatuion referred to above, and let him rest in peace.  God bless his soul!

Now, to compare Hayes and Hess in terms of the way they treated young men is an affront to the memory of Coach Hess.  I don't care to go into details at the moment (those with good memories will know what I'm referring to from earlier posts) , but I had virtually identical encounters with both coaches (as a student journalist) and the way they treated young men (yes, I was young once) was night and day.  Hess was gracious and a true gentleman; Hayes was the opposite. 
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Posted: 9/8/2010 6:14 PM
Before anyone gets carried away with my comment about coach Hess, let's read carefully and note that I said grabed kids by the facemask, which at that time was standard operating procedure, and I am sure anyone over the age of 50 on this site who played football had a coach grab them by their facemask.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 6:24 PM

Understood JCW.  Yes, that's a very mild action; or was at the time.

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Posted: 9/9/2010 3:00 PM
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Tressel defines class. 


I'm sorry but I just can't let this pass without comment (especially this week).  The fact that the man wears glasses, a tie and a sweater vest; speaks in controlled grammatically correct statements; and happens to Coach the State's beloved team doesn't default him into defining class.

It's not hard to hoodwink the lemmings that pledge their allegiance to the perennial winner simply because it's the easy band wagon to ride.  When you really pay attention though, you see he's very much a part of what's wrong with College Football today...

Reference Robert Reynolds:

Suspended ONE game for choking an opposing QB on national TV.  Quoth The Vest..."It is also in my opinion that it was not something that is a part of who Rob is," Tressel said. "While it is something that was something unacceptable, it's also something that's tough to handle. I think Reynolds will do a good job of handling it well."  Tell that to his eventual Wife after she had to call the police for assistance as well...

Reference Santonio Holmes:

Sat the bench for all of a single SERIES for the Michigan game after his involvement in a domestic issue on campus that resulted in one girl being choked until she lost consciousness and left another with a a broken wrist.  The University classified the players roles as "peace keeping" and Tressel refused to comment.  He was instrumental in the win though, so mission accomplished I suppose.  I'm guessing all of the folks involved in his future domestic violence escapades would have very much appreciated nipping that aggression in the bud while The Vest was "developing young men".

Reference Maurice Clarett:

No way on God's green earth The Vest didn't know what kind of kid this was during recruiting.  Yet even though he's embroiled in all sorts of controversy, screaming at his own Coaches during games, publicly accusing OSU of lying, etc he plays on and eventually brings them what I like to call the Clarettionship.  Geiger himself (AD) later admitted he accepted special benefits that year and that's not even touching on the "oral exams" he was granted in place of the written exams all other students are required to take.  They got their year out of him and washed their hands.  This is a kid that had to be maced when the cops finally got their hands on him during one of his multiple future arrests when tasing didn't work because he was driving around wearing a bullet proof vest!  Another shining example of the development of the youth under Tressel's care.



 
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Posted: 9/9/2010 3:08 PM
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Here's my final thought for everyone:  If Boise competed in the Pac 10, SEC, Big 10, or ACC (ok, maybe take out the ACC) do you actually think they would finish top 2 (if even 3) in any of those conferences? 



Pac-10 Yes
ACC- Yes
Big 10- Mid pack (4th or 5th)
SEC - Mid pack (4th or 5th)
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Posted: 9/9/2010 3:17 PM
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Here's my final thought for everyone:  If Boise competed in the Pac 10, SEC, Big 10, or ACC (ok, maybe take out the ACC) do you actually think they would finish top 2 (if even 3) in any of those conferences? 



Pac-10 Yes
ACC- Yes
Big 10- Mid pack (4th or 5th)
SEC - Mid pack (4th or 5th)


If Boise State competed in those conferences then they would have similar advantages that the other teams in those conferences have, so yes.

It's like saying- Urban Meyer had a good record at Utah, but do you honestly think he could go 22-2 in the SEC?
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Posted: 9/10/2010 12:55 AM
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Here's my final thought for everyone:  If Boise competed in the Pac 10, SEC, Big 10, or ACC (ok, maybe take out the ACC) do you actually think they would finish top 2 (if even 3) in any of those conferences? 



Pac-10 Yes
ACC- Yes
Big 10- Mid pack (4th or 5th)
SEC - Mid pack (4th or 5th)


If Boise State competed in those conferences then they would have similar advantages that the other teams in those conferences have, so yes.


Boise would finish in the top 3 of any conference even with the current athletes on the team. They probably wouldn't win the SEC but if you look at what they've done to the top teams from the PAC and ACC in recent years I don't doubt they could win. Boise has a winning culture in place that is hard to replicate.
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Posted: 9/10/2010 7:25 AM
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Tressel defines class. 


I'm sorry but I just can't let this pass without comment (especially this week).  The fact that the man wears glasses, a tie and a sweater vest; speaks in controlled grammatically correct statements; and happens to Coach the State's beloved team doesn't default him into defining class.

It's not hard to hoodwink the lemmings that pledge their allegiance to the perennial winner simply because it's the easy band wagon to ride.  When you really pay attention though, you see he's very much a part of what's wrong with College Football today...

Reference Robert Reynolds:

Suspended ONE game for choking an opposing QB on national TV.  Quoth The Vest..."It is also in my opinion that it was not something that is a part of who Rob is," Tressel said. "While it is something that was something unacceptable, it's also something that's tough to handle. I think Reynolds will do a good job of handling it well."  Tell that to his eventual Wife after she had to call the police for assistance as well...

Reference Santonio Holmes:

Sat the bench for all of a single SERIES for the Michigan game after his involvement in a domestic issue on campus that resulted in one girl being choked until she lost consciousness and left another with a a broken wrist.  The University classified the players roles as "peace keeping" and Tressel refused to comment.  He was instrumental in the win though, so mission accomplished I suppose.  I'm guessing all of the folks involved in his future domestic violence escapades would have very much appreciated nipping that aggression in the bud while The Vest was "developing young men".

Reference Maurice Clarett:

No way on God's green earth The Vest didn't know what kind of kid this was during recruiting.  Yet even though he's embroiled in all sorts of controversy, screaming at his own Coaches during games, publicly accusing OSU of lying, etc he plays on and eventually brings them what I like to call the Clarettionship.  Geiger himself (AD) later admitted he accepted special benefits that year and that's not even touching on the "oral exams" he was granted in place of the written exams all other students are required to take.  They got their year out of him and washed their hands.  This is a kid that had to be maced when the cops finally got their hands on him during one of his multiple future arrests when tasing didn't work because he was driving around wearing a bullet proof vest!  Another shining example of the development of the youth under Tressel's care.



 


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