I thought that the school in columbus was allowed to do this with no penalty.

Unless they start losing games.

USC knew there athletes were ineligible as well and played them. What made the kids ineligible is the difference. Both are violations, however, had Tressel shown better judgement and reported what he knew this would be a non-story, 5 games and done, Tressel would have never been suspended, much less fired.

Sorry SBH, no real knowledge on that subject. I know at my work we brass in and brass out with our tools.

BattleCat Wrote

"USC knew there athletes were ineligible as well and played them. What made the kids ineligible is the difference. Both are violations, however, had Tressel shown better judgement and reported what he knew this would be a non-story, 5 games and done, Tressel would have never been suspended, much less fired."


Yes, the only difference in the two stories is what the players were ineligible for - which is irrelevant.  Ineligible is ineligible.  USC and Tressel both knew their athletes were ineligible and played them. What made the kids ineligible is the difference. - but irrelevnt.   Both schools violated the rules and played players that should not have been eligible.  They cheated to better their team.  Had Tressel or USC shown better judgement and reported what they knew neither would be a story, 5 games and done in Tressel's case., Tressel would have never been suspended, much less fired.But instead he and Ohio State cheated and now he is gone and OSU is going to be hit with penalties that at least equal those at USC.

How can anyone read the SI article and not see "loss of institutional control" as a major possibility here?  IF the "facts" as presented in that article are true or even a majority of them, it'll be crystal clear to the NCAA that O$U had a program filled with players who had virtually no guidance and very limited concern for following any rules of any kind.  As I read the article it reminded me of stories I've heard about the shenanigans that went on in the 1890-1920 era when there were hardly and rules to break.  This has the potential of being the biggest college football scandal of the modern era.  I agree with whoever it was that said earlier in this thread that Gene Smith is probably implicated.  It seems to me that he was either knowledgeable about what was going on and was part of the cover up, and should therefore be fired.  Or, he was not knowledgeable about what has happening all around him, and therefore should be fired on the basis of incompetence.  Perhaps, the same should be said for Gordon Gee, but I won't go that far at this juncture.  I will say that the word of the day at Ohio A&M is "CYA"! 

Edit: I just found this story.  It looks like others are thinking along the same lines, too.  Yes, I know BC that this story rehashes a lot of old stuff, but it does have some new information -- or at least new speculation -- in it.   Prez and AD may be on hot seat.  

Pryor making news for the car he's driving and the fact he's driving.

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2011/05/31...

Pryor must be deathly allergic to the BMV.

The sad thing about this whole mess (at least for fans and supporters of Ohio State) is that it could have been largely prevented.  If OSU had demanded strict compliance with NCAA rules, and if they had come down harshly on any player, coach, etc., who dared violate such rules, they would still have gotten the best players available simple because they are Ohio State.

There have been mentions in the media of some car deals involving basketball players as well...

What's at least as interesting as the article are the comments after the article from A&M fans.  I'll just say, da Nile is not just a river in Egypt. 

AP report, Pryor's license was reinstated. Looks like channel 10 was in a hurry to break that story, without fact checking.

http://www.rr.com/local/topic/article/rr/4473267/42787381...


Also according to channel 10, one of the players mentioned in the SI Article is suing the magazine for naming him as trading memorabilia for tattoos. Ought to be a fairly simply case, kid has no tattoos, and claims to have all his swag.

http://www.portclintonnewsherald.com/article/BF/20110602/...

Reserve OSU lber Storm Kleins dad goin after SI....also DT John Simon's family showing their displeasure.

I think Ca's dad said something like that as well - lol.

Old Stormy's innocence will be good for him, but not lessen the guilt of Tressel and OSU.

gotta thank borna for this (sorry - don't know how to load an image)

http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa...

Very true, the issue at hand is bad enough without the hack reporting that's tying some names to this that seem to have stayed out of the fray.