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Posted: 5/24/2011 9:01 PM
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Pryor was in Athens today.  Went to 8fest and was at the bars after.  He was not well received, and it had nothing to do with the cheating.  For as much as we complain about our students, it was crystal clear whose town this is: Boo Jackson's.  

  


Well, that's one way to get ready for pro ball.


Or maybe the Nebraska game?

Bet he wasn't wearing gold pants.
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Posted: 5/26/2011 10:18 AM
When it hits the "I don't see why it's a big deal" and "everyone was doing it" level, things start to go bad with the NCAA - everyone say it now - "lack of institutional control."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/05/26...
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Posted: 5/27/2011 7:52 AM
Last night "College Football Live" on ESPN (2) had a segement on OSU's situation,including interviews with former players.
They presented a lot of the same information that was in the S.I. com piece,but kept harping on the "timeline" and Tressel's lying.
They did bring up an interesting point about OSU fans.
One of their analyists,sorry didn't catch his name,who is familiar with the situation in Columbus,said that support for Tressel among OSU fans is waning  and that they are "resigned " (good to choice of words) to the fact that he will most likely be gone.
 
 
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Posted: 5/28/2011 11:30 PM
A little more fuel to the O$U football scandal fire.
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Posted: 5/29/2011 8:25 AM
Where have you been? This is what started the entire mess.
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Posted: 5/30/2011 9:29 AM
According to a blurb that just popped up on A.O.L. the Columbus Dispatch is reporting that Tressel has resigned.
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Posted: 5/30/2011 11:24 AM
Now, maybe we can get back to Ohio football instead of all the interest in this topic. 
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Posted: 5/30/2011 11:35 AM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Now, maybe we can get back to Ohio football instead of all the interest in this topic. 


Amen! (but it won't happen)
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Posted: 5/30/2011 12:06 PM
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Now, maybe we can get back to Ohio football instead of all the interest in this topic. 


Amen! (but it won't happen)

Of course not, it may even increase.  Let the gloating begin!
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Posted: 5/30/2011 12:13 PM
Sports Illustrated will be releasing a story tonight/tomorrow that is supposed to shed some more light on why Tressel resigned today. Doesn't look good for the Buckeyes.
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Posted: 5/30/2011 4:32 PM
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Sports Illustrated will be releasing a story tonight/tomorrow that is supposed to shed some more light on why Tressel resigned today. Doesn't look good for the Buckeyes.


I've been dreaming of this day since I chose to come to Ohio. In the event that this article introduces new allegations and eventually leads to significant scholarship and post season penalties it couldn't come at a better time. Our football team is on the eve of what could be the most successful and certainly most nationally televised season in Ohio University history. For fans of which this will be their first college football season (ages 5 - 15?) they will have a choice in the state of Ohio for who to root for, especially if A&M faces in-state or national television bans.
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Posted: 5/30/2011 8:08 PM
Recently re-tweeted by OUr boy Peter King, "Pryor's Ohio State Career Said to be Over"

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2011/05/pryors-ohio-state-career-said-to-be-over

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Posted: 5/30/2011 8:24 PM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
Sports Illustrated will be releasing a story tonight/tomorrow that is supposed to shed some more light on why Tressel resigned today. Doesn't look good for the Buckeyes.


I've been dreaming of this day since I chose to come to Ohio. In the event that this article introduces new allegations and eventually leads to significant scholarship and post season penalties it couldn't come at a better time. Our football team is on the eve of what could be the most successful and certainly most nationally televised season in Ohio University history. For fans of which this will be their first college football season (ages 5 - 15?) they will have a choice in the state of Ohio for who to root for, especially if A&M faces in-state or national television bans.


You describe a most intriguing scenario, sir.
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Posted: 5/30/2011 11:31 PM
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Where have you been? This is what started the entire mess.


Do you know the difference between a formal charge and mere speculation?
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Posted: 5/30/2011 11:32 PM
there are 7 other FBS football stadiums in Ohio besides the one in Columbus and there's plenty of alumni from those schools that still live nearby. Now is time to hop off the bandwagon and get back to rooting for (and financially supporting) the school you got your degree from.

Hopefully some of the 6 Ohio MAC schools can put out some quality football this year.
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Posted: 5/31/2011 12:42 AM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
I've been dreaming of this day since I chose to come to Ohio. In the event that this article introduces new allegations and eventually leads to significant scholarship and post season penalties it couldn't come at a better time. Our football team is on the eve of what could be the most successful and certainly most nationally televised season in Ohio University history. For fans of which this will be their first college football season (ages 5 - 15?) they will have a choice in the state of Ohio for who to root for, especially if A&M faces in-state or national television bans.


Like the way you think. The user name... not so much...

If there are TV bans, Schaus, Solich and the staff need to do EVERYTHING (within NCAA bylaws) they can to take advantage of the situation (the opportunity, not the poster). Solich better make it clear to the players that they are Ohio's best hope of making serious ingrounds in this state when it comes to American football. Squeaking by Gardner-Webb isn't going to cut it. Losing to directionals won't cut it either. Punching horses and other off-field transgressions will be exponentially detrimental. Solich has to have these players playing for a higher cause. You flyover country types love that type of stuff...

<sigh>

If only we could have a real offense, and not a gimmicky one. The eyes of Ohio (the state and the university) could be upon thee - I just hope they see football close to what they are used to and can accept it as passable entertainment. The piss poor MAC TV production values aren't going to help either.
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Posted: 5/31/2011 7:43 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Where have you been? This is what started the entire mess.


Do you know the difference between a formal charge and mere speculation?


Yes I know the difference, but there was absolutely NO news in that  story which would be considered new.  As for the formal charge, very rarely do the Feds bring out news and go for indictments and do not get them.
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Posted: 5/31/2011 7:44 AM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
Recently re-tweeted by OUr boy Peter King, "Pryor's Ohio State Career Said to be Over"

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2011/05/pryors-ohio-state-career-said-to-be-over


this could easily help OSU to move on, one less distraction in the up-coming season, and the young freshman they have is said to be a stud.
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Posted: 5/31/2011 8:07 AM
Here's the SI piece, naming 28 players now implicated in the tats scandal. If the ongoing BMV investigation  implicates up to 50 players receiving improper car deals, the O$U roster could be pretty thin even with a great QB.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim....
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Posted: 5/31/2011 8:35 AM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
Here's the SI piece, naming 28 players now implicated in the tats scandal. If the ongoing BMV investigation  implicates up to 50 players receiving improper car deals, the O$U roster could be pretty thin even with a great QB.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim....


Mike that list of 28 players implicated are current and former players, with half of them having exhausted their eligibility.  Same with the 50 in the cars.  These list both go back to 2002, so not as big a hit to the roster number's wise as upon first glance.
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Posted: 5/31/2011 9:29 AM
Good point, BC. However, I think that of the nine current players implicated they are all projected starters. And then there is the pesky detail about all those missing scholarships for the next few years. USC got hit with 10 per year without their head coach being implicated. I doubt it, but it could be as much as 20 per year for three years...FCS-size roster. What OSU really has to hope for is the car thing comes back clean. The worst case scenario would be if the car loan thing comes back fishy, the case is filed after the August hearing, and then the NCAA files that as a repeat offense.
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Posted: 5/31/2011 9:55 AM
I personally see the USC and OSU things to be quite different, USC was turning a blind eye while their athletes were getting paid (now the car thing may turn something like that up), but currently the issue is still trading "University owned" merchandise for tatoo's.  The real transgression here lies with the Coach and his Maverick behavior.  As long as they do not point a smoking gun at anyone higher who was privilaged to this information we may not see anything too severe.  However once on campus the NCAA is highly effective at finding things.
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Posted: 5/31/2011 10:11 AM
Didn't I see it posted a couple of weeks ago that we are 1 of 17 or so D-1 programs who have never had major violations?  How about we throw some billboards up in the 3 C's with that fact, along with the words 'integrity,' 'honesty,' or some other garbage...  
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Posted: 5/31/2011 1:52 PM
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I personally see the USC and OSU things to be quite different, USC was turning a blind eye while their athletes were getting paid (now the car thing may turn something like that up), but currently the issue is still trading "University owned" merchandise for tatoo's.  The real transgression here lies with the Coach and his Maverick behavior.  As long as they do not point a smoking gun at anyone higher who was privilaged to this information we may not see anything too severe.  However once on campus the NCAA is highly effective at finding things.


50 cars from the same dealership to players and families...Pryor driving a "loaner" every time he's pulled over and "Compliance" Director Doug Archie saw "no concerns" after the 3rd report...No reason to even investigate.  Why?  Because vis the Tressel model, it's much easier to say you didn't know it was going on when the questions come.

At this point it''s only a matter of time before the attention hound (Pryor) takes the stage and tells all.  Hell the kid arrived at the team meeting to announce Tressel's departure driving a brand new Nissan Z with 30 day tags on it!  O$U has been laughing at the NCAA since Clarett and now that the NCAA's hand has been forced by the media.  Unlike in that case though, they won't be able to brush off further evidence as coming from a disgruntled player.  This won't be completely over until Gene Smith is gone as well.   
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Posted: 5/31/2011 2:00 PM
BattleCat wrote:expand_more
I personally see the USC and OSU things to be quite different, USC was turning a blind eye while their athletes were getting paid (now the car thing may turn something like that up), but currently the issue is still trading "University owned" merchandise for tatoo's.  The real transgression here lies with the Coach and his Maverick behavior.  As long as they do not point a smoking gun at anyone higher who was privilaged to this information we may not see anything too severe.  However once on campus the NCAA is highly effective at finding things.


This is not about tattoos.  This is about cheating.  Tressel cheated.  Period.  He played players he knew had jeopardized their eligibility.  He played players knowing had the NCAA known what he knew the players would not have been allowed to dress.  This is not about players selling merchandise.  This is about a coach playing players that should have been on the sidelines.  This is about a coach hiding information in order to give his team a better chance on winning.  This is about cheating.  Tressel cheated.  OSU Cheated.  They cheated and they got caught. 
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