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Posted: 12/4/2011 7:53 PM
Got this from another site, but apparently Paul Hershey is not impressed

RT @PHershey41: Idaho?? Who the f*** wants to play there in December??

EDIT: Said account has since gone MIA (well maybe, sometimes it says doesn't exist, sometimes not).  May have caught some heat for that tweet.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 8:03 PM
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Here's a novel idea.  Forget this bowl and take the money that we're going to spend going there and plow it into the new indoor football practice facility.  Makes sense to me.


In SHOCKING news, it took Alan Swank (The Swankster) more than 10 minutes to criticize us going to a bowl game!  Proud of you, buddy!  Always supporting our student-athletes.


Sorry VOR, or whoever you are behind that handle, I actually thought about this when it became apparent that we were going to Idaho.  Even the most loyal of non-monied fans are not going to make this trip.  We'll loose a ton of cash on this game.  Why spend it on one more game as opposed to paying it forward.  The same folks who have accused the coaching staff and players of giving up in Detroit are the loudest proponents of going to this game.  That just doesn't make sense.  Can you imagine the press we would get from saying we're not going to pay to go to Boise but instead we're going to invest in our future with our new indoor football facility.  Don Draper could easily sell that idea.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 8:07 PM
That's what BG's band did a few years ago when they went to Siberia, er Boise. How's the selection process going to go with the 110 O'Doyle, the short straw method? I've NEVER understood the MAC's affliation with this bowl. I'm not trying to pooh-pooh a bowl opportunity, but getting to Boise from MACville is just brutal both in time and cost.

The whole bowl process needs some serious re-thinking. The let's give every Johnny a participation trophy in reality is cost-prohibative for schools that can ill-afford the "reward".
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Posted: 12/4/2011 8:20 PM
The ultimate joke for the choke. Given the cost to get to this joint I predict 300 fans. If that Tweet is true, maybe someone should keep in mind a 12 yard punt had a lot to do with the eventual trip to the potato farm. I have supported this team as an athlete and fan forever but I just cannot afford a $1K round trip to the North Pole. Not saying I am not happy the team is in a bowl but just question how WMU gets to Detroit and we are sent packing. Reminds me of the days I would call the NIT Offices to voice my complaint about our 90's Hoop Teams being shut out of that joke tournament.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 8:31 PM
Love how the top 2 teams in the MAC get the worst bowls and crappiest oppontents. What a joke.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 8:38 PM
WMU gets Purdue and we get a team from a state that borders Idaho. The MAC leadership must be scrounging for any bowl tie-in they can get, because this make absolutely no sense. Yes, we can win the game, but most of the fans will only be able to see it on TV. It will be another game where ESPN cameras focus on the field and not show the empty stands.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 8:49 PM
BobcatSports wrote:expand_more
That's what BG's band did a few years ago when they went to Siberia, er Boise. How's the selection process going to go with the 110 O'Doyle, the short straw method? I've NEVER understood the MAC's affliation with this bowl. I'm not trying to pooh-pooh a bowl opportunity, but getting to Boise from MACville is just brutal both in time and cost.

The whole bowl process needs some serious re-thinking. The let's give every Johnny a participation trophy in reality is cost-prohibative for schools that can ill-afford the "reward".


They had it all figured out before the bowl selection...they had plan for all possibilities prepared.  And they choose with a combination of instrumentation and seniority.

However, there may be a possibility that the whole band could go....will know more later.

I do agree with the MAC affiliation with Idaho....can't we trade for a more local bowl?
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Posted: 12/4/2011 8:55 PM
Another drawback of this game is it conflicts with the basketbal game at Wright State at 7 that night.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 8:56 PM
Off topic but TCU goes from a possible BCS birth to getting LA Tech. Nice.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 9:01 PM
I have the time, a flexible schedule and the resources to go.  I'm not making the trip.  It is such an unappealing location and match-up.  I don't disagree with the acceptance of the game because there are so many factors that figure into the decision for the team to go.  It is disappointing that this discussion even needs to happen.  It was better financially for us not to have this bowl tie-in as a conference.  I wonder if there is a way to at least break even.  If we get $375,000, it would seem that we could do it. 
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Posted: 12/4/2011 9:19 PM
In the past, this Bowl has paid out more actual cash than the other MAC tie-in Bowls. Hopefully, that will take the financial sting out of it. I can't imagine more than 50 people go to this.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 9:23 PM
I am glad we are in a bowl, but I too don't see more than 100 fans (parents/family/administration) coupled with a small "pep band" and we look like a joke on national t.v.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 9:25 PM
I'm sure the seat-filler ad has already gone up on Craigslist.  I wonder if the athletics dept will have any $40 bus trips for this one.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 9:31 PM
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In the past, this Bowl has paid out more actual cash than the other MAC tie-in Bowls. Hopefully, that will take the financial sting out of it. I can't imagine more than 50 people go to this.


Is that before the MAC got the tie-in or after? Because some of these past games have some pretty solid national programs in it. I can't imagine the last two have produced as much coin.

December 18, 2010
Northern Illinois (MAC) 40 Fresno State (WAC) 17
December 30, 2009
Idaho (WAC) 43 Bowling Green (MAC) 42
December 30, 2008
Maryland (ACC) 42 Nevada (WAC) 35
December 31, 2007
Fresno State (WAC) 40 Georgia Tech (ACC) 28
December 31, 2006
Miami (ACC) 21 Nevada (WAC) 20
December 28, 2005
Boston College (ACC) 27 Boise State (WAC) 21
December 27, 2004
Fresno State (WAC) 37 Virginia (ACC) 34
January 3, 2003
Georgia Tech (ACC) 52 Tulsa (WAC) 10
December 31, 2002
Boise State (WAC) 38 Iowa State (Big 12) 16
December 31, 2001
Clemson (ACC) 49 La Tech (WAC) 24
December 28, 2000
Boise State (Big West) 38 UTEP (WAC) 23
December 28, 1999
Boise State (Big West) 34 Louisville (C-USA) 31
December 30, 1998
Idaho (Big West) 42 So. Mississippi (C-USA) 35
December 29, 1997
Cincinnati (C-USA) 35 Utah State (Big West) 19
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Posted: 12/4/2011 9:33 PM
It seems to me in the past that the Boise community has turned out relatively well for this game.  I remember seeing a three-quarter's full stadium in some of the past contests when MAC teams were in this bowl.  I don't know if this happens every year, but I do remember being pleasantly surprised at the crowd a few times. 
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Posted: 12/4/2011 9:51 PM
We may finally win OUr first bowl game EVER and there will probably be less than 200 fans there to witness it live.  What a shame.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 9:55 PM
Since the student population is not in Athens so the bars will be empty, perhaps we all could make a pilgrimage to Athens and party in the streets when it happens?
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Posted: 12/4/2011 10:07 PM
In case anyone is interested in traveling from the Ohio-Michigan region there are flights out of Detroit for 364 dollars on US Airways to Salt Lake City and then its a 334 mile drive to Boise from there. From most Airports in the Midwest a direct flight to Boise is 600-700 dollars. A flight from Detroit to Denver is 300 dollars but Denver is 830 miles from Boise. Flights to SLC from Philadelphia are $414 from the East Coast. All that I'm going to say is check your airline miles before you make a decision because it may not be as much money as you think. Hotels in Boise are dirt cheap.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 10:14 PM
are we the home team? (requesting some black uni mojo)
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Posted: 12/4/2011 10:14 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
In the past, this Bowl has paid out more actual cash than the other MAC tie-in Bowls. Hopefully, that will take the financial sting out of it. I can't imagine more than 50 people go to this.


Is that before the MAC got the tie-in or after? Because some of these past games have some pretty solid national programs in it. I can't imagine the last two have produced as much coin.

December 18, 2010
Northern Illinois (MAC) 40 Fresno State (WAC) 17
December 30, 2009
Idaho (WAC) 43 Bowling Green (MAC) 42
December 30, 2008
Maryland (ACC) 42 Nevada (WAC) 35
December 31, 2007
Fresno State (WAC) 40 Georgia Tech (ACC) 28
December 31, 2006
Miami (ACC) 21 Nevada (WAC) 20
December 28, 2005
Boston College (ACC) 27 Boise State (WAC) 21
December 27, 2004
Fresno State (WAC) 37 Virginia (ACC) 34
January 3, 2003
Georgia Tech (ACC) 52 Tulsa (WAC) 10
December 31, 2002
Boise State (WAC) 38 Iowa State (Big 12) 16
December 31, 2001
Clemson (ACC) 49 La Tech (WAC) 24
December 28, 2000
Boise State (Big West) 38 UTEP (WAC) 23
December 28, 1999
Boise State (Big West) 34 Louisville (C-USA) 31
December 30, 1998
Idaho (Big West) 42 So. Mississippi (C-USA) 35
December 29, 1997
Cincinnati (C-USA) 35 Utah State (Big West) 19


I found this article regarding last year's game: http://www.rrstar.com/updates/x493348591/College-football...

It says the guaranteed portion is $450,000. My guess is you'd have to sell 10,000 tickets to get to the full $750,000. Ohio received $300K guaranteed for the New Orleans Bowl last year, sold $16K in tickets and had expenses of $412K. If they keep expenses around the same level, they could come close to breaking even.

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Posted: 12/4/2011 10:22 PM
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Love how the top 2 teams in the MAC get the worst bowls and crappiest oppontents. What a joke.


I'm not sure I agree with that, at least as far as the GoDaddy.com Bowl's involved.  Arkansas State is no pushover for Northern Illinois.  And if you want "bowl pageantry", the GoDaddy has a lot more of it than other bowls, especially the Little Caesers' Pizza Bowl.  I thought the LCPB, other than the game itself, was a dud.  The LCPB is a game and nothing else-you drive into Detroit, watch the game and drive home all in the same day.  Snooze City!

The GoDaddy Bowl, or GMAC Bowl in 2007, was fantastic!  The weather's great, the food fantastic, the people extremely hospitable and the parade was fun too.  And nightlife?  Like I mentioned in another thread, at one point I remember bar-hopping on Dauphin St. that Saturday night and I could've sworn I was back on Court St. in Athens.  Ask any of the Ohio fans that were there-it was a blast!  Man I wish we beat Northern Illinois-I was looking forward to going back to Mobile.

Yeah we didn't get the sexy-named opponent in the Potato Bowl.  OK so what?  With our postseason pedigree we don't deserve to be choosy.  And if anything, this bowl's got great history.  There have been some really entertaining games and some very good programs involved.  And I will say this, even though it's Boise in December, a lot more people are familiar with this bowl than they are the New Mexico Bowl.  Am I going?  Heck no but I'll be in front of the TV on the 17th decked in hunter green and white!
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Posted: 12/4/2011 10:23 PM
Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
In the past, this Bowl has paid out more actual cash than the other MAC tie-in Bowls. Hopefully, that will take the financial sting out of it. I can't imagine more than 50 people go to this.


Is that before the MAC got the tie-in or after? Because some of these past games have some pretty solid national programs in it. I can't imagine the last two have produced as much coin.

December 18, 2010
Northern Illinois (MAC) 40 Fresno State (WAC) 17
December 30, 2009
Idaho (WAC) 43 Bowling Green (MAC) 42
December 30, 2008
Maryland (ACC) 42 Nevada (WAC) 35
December 31, 2007
Fresno State (WAC) 40 Georgia Tech (ACC) 28
December 31, 2006
Miami (ACC) 21 Nevada (WAC) 20
December 28, 2005
Boston College (ACC) 27 Boise State (WAC) 21
December 27, 2004
Fresno State (WAC) 37 Virginia (ACC) 34
January 3, 2003
Georgia Tech (ACC) 52 Tulsa (WAC) 10
December 31, 2002
Boise State (WAC) 38 Iowa State (Big 12) 16
December 31, 2001
Clemson (ACC) 49 La Tech (WAC) 24
December 28, 2000
Boise State (Big West) 38 UTEP (WAC) 23
December 28, 1999
Boise State (Big West) 34 Louisville (C-USA) 31
December 30, 1998
Idaho (Big West) 42 So. Mississippi (C-USA) 35
December 29, 1997
Cincinnati (C-USA) 35 Utah State (Big West) 19


I found this article regarding last year's game: http://www.rrstar.com/updates/x493348591/College-football...

It says the guaranteed portion is $450,000. My guess is you'd have to sell 10,000 tickets to get to the full $750,000. Ohio received $300K guaranteed for the New Orleans Bowl last year, sold $16K in tickets and had expenses of $412K. If they keep expenses around the same level, they could come close to breaking even.



Could be the reason we got this bowl then, and if that's the case I'm not too upset about it. It stinks no one will be there to watch it, but if we break even or better I'll take that.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 10:32 PM
Fly the team/staff/broadcast team in the day before.  If you have to, take as few VIP's/Admin. as possible.  Then, immediately after the game, fly back.  Treat it like another distant away game and plan on speding as little as possible.  Do the same thing we did when we opened at NMSU this year.  Also, hopefully the team plays with the same attitude they had in that game and we deliver another smack-down on national t.v..  Start gaining respect now for next year, then open with a victory at Happy Valley, run the tables and get a real bid to the BCS.

GO BOBCATS!
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Posted: 12/4/2011 10:33 PM
With the $450,000 payment that game in Boise is a much better deal than playing in New Mexico which doesn't pay secondary participants any money. The game makes more financial sense than Mobile too as it wraps up the season earlier. The Military Bowl vs. Air Force would have been a sweet deal but I think it came around at the very last second. For the sake of relationships I don't think a MAC division winner could on conscious turn down a primary opportunity. The MAC is trying to spread the bowls around so I doubt we ever end up back in Boise again. Its worth noting that the only other MAC school that has played in all 3 primary tie-ins is Bowling Green. This is our Boise year and a once and a lifetime excuse for a trip to Idaho.
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Posted: 12/4/2011 10:34 PM
ou79 wrote:expand_more
Fly the team/staff/broadcast team in the day before.  If you have to, take as few VIP's/Admin. as possible.  Then, immediately after the game, fly back.  Treat it like another distant away game and plan on speding as little as possible.  Do the same thing we did when we opened at NMSU this year.  Also, hopefully the team plays with the same attitude they had in that game and we deliver another smack-down on national t.v..  Start gaining respect now for next year, then open with a victory at Happy Valley, run the tables and get a real bid to the BCS.

GO BOBCATS!


Last year, NIU was required to stay four nights and the band/cheerleaders two.
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