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Posted: 8/9/2012 6:56 AM
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...Now, on to the article at Pre-snapread on Ohio. I am very impressed at his accurate and in depth reporting. The scary thing is that, after reading his article, he may be right - perhaps Ohio can prove they belong ranked this high.
 


Agree with you, L.C., that there is a lot of meat in the Read. I found it interesting that he would even hint we could run the table in be in a BCS bowl. I'm not sure my old heart could take a perfect 13-0 into a major bowl ... but I'd die proud wearing my Green!


I need to buy this man a beer. Which also brings me to my next point..

Has there been attempts to have a formal pre-game BA get-together, perhaps or pigskin or something? 

Obviously OHIO fans tailgate and all that jazz, but it'd be cool to have a more exclusive type pre-game. Thoughts? 
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:22 AM
To be fair, Phil Steele has Ohio at #31 in his rankings when everything is thrown together such as schedule, starters coming back, coaching, etc.

His actual power poll of how good he thinks Ohio is compared to the rest of the country...71
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:51 AM
Best case scenario is now a BCS bowl.    
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:51 AM
Copy machines and staplers are at work this AM in MAC football offices pinning the article to the boards for their players to read.  Ohio knew it was going to be wearing the eye patch and now so too do the other teams.  

Go Bobcats, one game at a time!
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:01 AM
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Has there been attempts to have a formal pre-game BA get-together, perhaps or pigskin or something? 

Obviously OHIO fans tailgate and all that jazz, but it'd be cool to have a more exclusive type pre-game. Thoughts? 


The first game home game is at 7:00 against New Mexico State. Personally I feel the Pig Skin is unneccessarily expensive but it's a great idea to have people gather in one place hours before the game . I know the older guys have a Bobcat Attack tailgate but it might be better for the student/recent grad crowd to meet uptown.

What do you think about the Pigskin at 3:00 on that Saturday? I know I can wrangle together at least a half dozen of my friends remaining in Athens for the pre-game.

One benefit though of having the Bobcat Attack name attached (regardless of whether the older members show up or not) would be drink specials. I'm sure if management/ownership was approached they would offer drink specials. I would be willing to put together the letter if given consent.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:35 AM
It feels like a special day when a person strings together 4,000 lucid and accurate words to describe Ohio football.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:46 AM
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Has there been attempts to have a formal pre-game BA get-together, perhaps or pigskin or something? 

Obviously OHIO fans tailgate and all that jazz, but it'd be cool to have a more exclusive type pre-game. Thoughts? 


The first game home game is at 7:00 against New Mexico State. Personally I feel the Pig Skin is unneccessarily expensive but it's a great idea to have people gather in one place hours before the game . I know the older guys have a Bobcat Attack tailgate but it might be better for the student/recent grad crowd to meet uptown.

What do you think about the Pigskin at 3:00 on that Saturday? I know I can wrangle together at least a half dozen of my friends remaining in Athens for the pre-game.

One benefit though of having the Bobcat Attack name attached (regardless of whether the older members show up or not) would be drink specials. I'm sure if management/ownership was approached they would offer drink specials. I would be willing to put together the letter if given consent.


I think it's a great idea. This would be a great way to keep up my "attendance manifesto" plan of bringing one person who then brings another person, so on and so forth. 

"you can't spell 'bobcat bash' without BA" -Biz-cat 
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:00 AM
"And if the Bobcats get past Penn State in the opener, gaining even more confidence, this team could – should, even – be the first MAC team since Ball State to post a 12-0 regular season. Then we’re talking a B.C.S. bowl; then we’re talking about Ohio really breaking through, and breaking through in style."

For scheduling critics, this is why we have the cupcake schedule.  It provides us with a possibility of this happening and us being in the discussion.  This would never happen with the schedule some are calling for.  Do I think there is a time when we need to challenge ourselves, ABSOLUTELY!  However, while many of you think that we have arrived and are ready for that, we still have a couple humps to get over.  Being in this discussion is the first hump.  Getting in the mix with higher level recruits is next and then challenging ourselves.  We have not arrived yet, but we are pretty damn close.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:16 AM
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You weren't at those games?

That other website I linked to shows the games to Chillicothe as losses, and calls them "young men's club" instead of YMCA. It shows 2 losses to Marietta in 1896 instead of one. Also, it shows the win over the Deaf and Dumb institute in the 1898 year rather than 1897.

 
Now, on to the article at Pre-snapread on Ohio. I am very impressed at his accurate and in depth reporting. The scary thing is that, after reading his article, he may be right - perhaps Ohio can prove they belong ranked this high.
 


No, I wasn't at those games, but in my youth I talked to folks who were.  I always had an interest in local history -- even as a kid -- and tended to ask my elders questions about a wide variety of matters, including olde tyme football.  I still remember one old lady trying to explain to me how Pete McLaren and the boys grew long hair during football season to protect their heads during games.  Sounded far-fetched even then, but she said it with a straight face in all earnestness.  

OK, on to the questions at hand.  From the Oct 22, 1896 Messenger and Herald: "The Ohio University foot ball team defeated the eleven from the Young Men's club at Chillicothe Friday by a score of 12 to 6.  The Chillicothe men were much heavier than the Ohio University team, but our boys played the better game."  

In terms of the other scores that I related these all come from a paper that I did in school entitled "The Reporting of 19th Century Ohio University Football."  I spent many hours reading old microfilm and stories of games.  In the process I discovered an error in the Ohio University records.  At that time Ohio did not have the '97 victory over WVU in its records.  Several years later I gave a copy of this paper to Mike Ballweg, sports media relations director, who wrote his counterpart at WVU, who confirmed the loss by the Mountaineers in Athens.  It was then entered in the Ohio official records.  If you're interested, I can email you a scan of this paper which compares the reporting styles being used in the local media at the time with the styles prevalent on the East Coast, particularly in the NYT.   If you suffer from insomnia, reading a few pages of this pedantic report would probably make a good cure.  
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:43 AM
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To be fair, Phil Steele has Ohio at #31 in his rankings when everything is thrown together such as schedule, starters coming back, coaching, etc.

His actual power poll of how good he thinks Ohio is compared to the rest of the country...71


Presnapread has a similar view:
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The Bobcats wouldn’t beat Florida. Nor Missouri, Oklahoma State, California or Auburn. Perhaps not even N.C. State, though it would be close; likewise with Nevada, Mississippi State and Houston.

Note that he says they would not beat team he ranked 34, 44, 32, 38, and 40, and that probably not beat team he ranked 36, 43, 31, and 30. Thus, while he has them ranked at 26, from a true "power" perspective they may only belong at #50 of so.

I would agree with that completely. As I said, I think they will be a few points better than last year. Realistically that's enough to move them up from #76 or so to #50 or so. From a "power" perspective, I can't see them being good enough to really be top 25. On the other hand, there is no team on the schedule that they could not beat, and most teams on the schedule they should beat, and will beat. If they do manage to win 12, they will be pushing the top 25, whether or not they really have the "power" to belong there. If they do happen to get that far, then at bowl time they will get a chance to prove whether they really belong.

It's too early to worry about that yet. For now it's just a "dream season", and they have to start by winning one game at a time.
Last Edited: 8/9/2012 11:44:51 AM by L.C.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:28 PM
is this real life?


when the man starts taking about 30 packs of Busch Light you know he's done his research. If i had a pill that would knock me out right now until Sept 1st I would take it. Let's GO!
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:43 PM
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is this real life?


when the man starts taking about 30 packs of Busch Light you know he's done his research. If i had a pill that would knock me out right now until Sept 1st I would take it. Let's GO!


In depth research would tell him that Nati is more accurate. By the time you're drinking busch light you're probably an upperclassman.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:51 PM
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is this real life?


when the man starts taking about 30 packs of Busch Light you know he's done his research. If i had a pill that would knock me out right now until Sept 1st I would take it. Let's GO!


In depth research would tell him that Nati is more accurate. By the time you're drinking busch light you're probably an upperclassman.


Hell, 7 years after graduation and I think I still prefer Natty to Busch Light. I say "think", because employment has allowed me to move beyond Natty so I haven't run the taste comparison in a while. And there is always King Cobra if I really need some cheap beer.

Nothing is worse than Keystone, though. I don't care that there are 30 in a case.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:53 PM
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is this real life?


when the man starts taking about 30 packs of Busch Light you know he's done his research. If i had a pill that would knock me out right now until Sept 1st I would take it. Let's GO!


In depth research would tell him that Nati is more accurate. By the time you're drinking busch light you're probably an upperclassman.


Hell, 7 years after graduation and I think I still prefer Natty to Busch Light. I say "think", because employment has allowed me to move beyond Natty so I haven't run the taste comparison in a while. And there is always King Cobra if I really need some cheap beer.

Nothing is worse than Keystone, though. I don't care that there are 30 in a case.


As you're well aware I enjoy getting bit by the Cobra, but I think you meant to say "if I really need some cheap 'beer' "
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:03 PM
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As you're well aware I enjoy getting bit by the Cobra, but I think you meant to say "if I really need some cheap 'beer' "


The questionable status of Cobra is half the fun. The other half is the requisite rate of consumption.

Man, I am REALLY ready for football/Saturday afternoon drinking season.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:52 PM
Cobra mixed with a Four Loko.   
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:55 PM
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Cobra mixed with a Four Loko.   


Ah yes, the ol' Hyper Viper
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:15 PM
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Cobra mixed with a Four Loko.   


4Loko was (thankfully!!) unknown to be back in college.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:32 PM
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It feels like a special day when a person strings together 4,000 lucid and accurate words to describe Ohio football.
Lol!!!
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:08 PM
mf279801 wrote:expand_more
is this real life?


when the man starts taking about 30 packs of Busch Light you know he's done his research. If i had a pill that would knock me out right now until Sept 1st I would take it. Let's GO!


In depth research would tell him that Nati is more accurate. By the time you're drinking busch light you're probably an upperclassman.


I didn't see a lot of Natty Light in my day, usually I'd see empties around frat houses but that was about it.

the Beast for $8.88 a case was preferred but would upgrade to Busch Light at $9.98/24pk if there were coeds involved. A college girl will drink a Busch Light in a pinch but it is hard to find one who will stoop to guzzling an Old Milwaukee's Best.

side note- cheap beer should always be consumed in cans, never bottles, unless its a 40. Drinking Busch Light in a bottle is something someone from Fiami would do.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 8:22 AM
I am LOLH reading the latest posts in this string. We ARE Ohio, home of the people who know how to put the sports talk in its rightful place alongside or perhaps behind the revelry. Stay thirsty, my friends. 
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Posted: 8/10/2012 10:25 AM
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Has there been attempts to have a formal pre-game BA get-together, perhaps or pigskin or something? 

Obviously OHIO fans tailgate and all that jazz, but it'd be cool to have a more exclusive type pre-game. Thoughts? 


The first game home game is at 7:00 against New Mexico State. Personally I feel the Pig Skin is unneccessarily expensive but it's a great idea to have people gather in one place hours before the game . I know the older guys have a Bobcat Attack tailgate but it might be better for the student/recent grad crowd to meet uptown.

What do you think about the Pigskin at 3:00 on that Saturday? I know I can wrangle together at least a half dozen of my friends remaining in Athens for the pre-game.

One benefit though of having the Bobcat Attack name attached (regardless of whether the older members show up or not) would be drink specials. I'm sure if management/ownership was approached they would offer drink specials. I would be willing to put together the letter if given consent.


Since he brought it up.....are we having Bobcat Attack tailgates this year?

As far as old farts attending the Pigskin sure....why not?  The only impediment would be if the "drink specials" were a buck off of the afore mentioned Nati or Busch.
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Posted: 8/14/2012 9:05 AM
For those that want to see more Rankings from 1-124, here are some more:
Athlon sports - ranks Ohio 59
rantsports - likes Ohio well enough to rank them both 42 and 48. Not a Brady Hoke-ism, they leave Florida International out to make room for two Ohios
sports-ratings.com  They are a little behind, and only down to #95, it seems
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Posted: 8/14/2012 10:40 AM
Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Has there been attempts to have a formal pre-game BA get-together, perhaps or pigskin or something? 

Obviously OHIO fans tailgate and all that jazz, but it'd be cool to have a more exclusive type pre-game. Thoughts? 


The first game home game is at 7:00 against New Mexico State. Personally I feel the Pig Skin is unneccessarily expensive but it's a great idea to have people gather in one place hours before the game . I know the older guys have a Bobcat Attack tailgate but it might be better for the student/recent grad crowd to meet uptown.

What do you think about the Pigskin at 3:00 on that Saturday? I know I can wrangle together at least a half dozen of my friends remaining in Athens for the pre-game.

One benefit though of having the Bobcat Attack name attached (regardless of whether the older members show up or not) would be drink specials. I'm sure if management/ownership was approached they would offer drink specials. I would be willing to put together the letter if given consent.


Since he brought it up.....are we having Bobcat Attack tailgates this year?

As far as old farts attending the Pigskin sure....why not?  The only impediment would be if the "drink specials" were a buck off of the afore mentioned Nati or Busch.


I think it would be a great idea.  I agree with whoever said they weren't sure about the Pigskin though.  For the opener, I feel like a tailgate is the way to go, with a rain plan (it's not gonna rain right?)  for somewhere indoors?

I'll be coming down with at least 3 non-Bobcats and would enjoy letting them know that there is a college football world outside of Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: 8/17/2012 3:48 PM
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For those that want to see more Rankings from 1-124, here are some more:
Athlon sports - ranks Ohio 59
rantsports - likes Ohio well enough to rank them both 42 and 48. Not a Brady Hoke-ism, they leave Florida International out to make room for two Ohios
sports-ratings.com  They are a little behind, and only down to #95, it seems


#95? REALLY? That is the biggest underrating I have ever seen. I suppose though that rantsports made up for sports-ratings.com's low rating by rating us twice. Thank Goodness.
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