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Dan's Mom
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Posted: 1/1/2013 9:28 PM
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agree.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 9:35 PM
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I think the Huskies should have stepped off the bus in Miami wearing camos and gold chains.


edit: I'll take a healthy TT over Lynch all day.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 9:59 PM
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I will say this. NIU D-line looks better than Ohio's D-line.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 10:08 PM
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Those last two calls didn't help any.  Hope NIU can hold them until halftime.Wish I understood this game better - then I could stomp and yell at the TV like I knew what I was talking about!!!!!
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Posted: 1/1/2013 10:15 PM
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Finally they call a pass interference against FSU.  Announcers seem to have determined that NIU has no chance.  I believe the score is only 7-3. 
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Posted: 1/1/2013 10:30 PM
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The speed of Seminoles D is making lynch look like he just stepped into an NFL game! Should of kept comments to himself. I wonder how TT would of held up? 
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Posted: 1/1/2013 10:40 PM
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Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
I will say this. NIU D-line looks better than Ohio's D-line.
may be, but FSU HAS 328 yards at halftime. If that was against Ohio everybody would say we need a pass rush.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 10:41 PM
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. I wonder how TT would of held up? 


No better if his receivers couldn't create some space--looks like everything is shut down and all options covered.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 10:46 PM
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I don't know if our coaches would go for broke in special teams like NIU's have: Fake punt and an all out rush on a first quarter punt.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 10:47 PM
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Pataskala, I agree.

As you know Herbstreit moved his family to the Nashville area. I guess you can say that you can take the guy out of Columbus, but you can't take the Columbus out of the guy.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 11:12 PM
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Tired of hearing all the mocking from analysts leading up to this game.  These announcers have been talking NIU/MAC down subtley since the opening kickoff.  I'm cheering for NIU 80% as hard as I would if OHIO were playing.  These types of games are for the respect of the MAC and all little guys in a Big Guys world.
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did you see ESPn roll out the strength of schedule graphic and showed the top 3 teams (all SEC I think) and the NIU at 120. Just an unnecessary  kick in the nuts.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 12:11 AM
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At 31-10 with 8 and change to go in the game I am turning off the set and heading for bed.  The sad fact that this game is showing me, at least, is that NIU has the heart but has neither the speed nor the talent to compete with FSU.  I wish it were different, but it just isn't so.  The MAC still has a long way to go.  
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Posted: 1/2/2013 12:38 AM
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perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
did you see ESPn roll out the strength of schedule graphic and showed the top 3 teams (all SEC I think) and the NIU at 120. Just an unnecessary  kick in the nuts.


Why is it unnecessary? Sometimes the truth hurts. Wanted NIU to win, but don't see anything wrong with someone pointing out that they didn't play many good teams.

They deserved to be there, they just didn't play well for 50 of the 60 minutes.
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bostonbobcat wrote:expand_more
did you see ESPn roll out the strength of schedule graphic and showed the top 3 teams (all SEC I think) and the NIU at 120. Just an unnecessary  kick in the nuts.


Why is it unnecessary? Sometimes the truth hurts. Wanted NIU to win, but don't see anything wrong with someone pointing out that they didn't play many good teams.

They deserved to be there, they just didn't play well for 50 of the 60 minutes.


It was unnecessary because it was late in the 3rd quarter and NIU was already down a ton. Plus, how strong can a team in the MAC's schedule be? Ball State played 3 AQ schools and Army in OOC, played all 4 ranked MAC teams and still finished with a SOS of 75. Meanwhile Kentucky plays Lville, 2 nonAQs and an FCS as OOC but because they are in SEC have SOS of 15. SOS, like the BCS, is rigged.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 7:08 AM
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perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
did you see ESPn roll out the strength of schedule graphic and showed the top 3 teams (all SEC I think) and the NIU at 120. Just an unnecessary  kick in the nuts.


Why is it unnecessary? Sometimes the truth hurts. Wanted NIU to win, but don't see anything wrong with someone pointing out that they didn't play many good teams.

They deserved to be there, they just didn't play well for 50 of the 60 minutes.


It was unnecessary because it was late in the 3rd quarter and NIU was already down a ton. Plus, how strong can a team in the MAC's schedule be? Ball State played 3 AQ schools and Army in OOC, played all 4 ranked MAC teams and still finished with a SOS of 75. Meanwhile Kentucky plays Lville, 2 nonAQs and an FCS as OOC but because they are in SEC have SOS of 15. SOS, like the BCS, is rigged.


But that's been one point of the scoffers: NIU supposedly doesn't belong because they don't play the type of competition week in and week out that AQ schools do.  But they should also point out that FSU's OOC sked included two 1AA schools and 3-9 USF.  They did play two ranked teams (Clemson & Florida), but their conf sked included only three other teams with winning records: MiamiF, VT and NCSt, each with only 7 wins.  I didn't hear anything about their SOS. 
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Overall, I think NIU put up a good fight. Even tho FSU's D made running the ball impossible, IMO the game was a lot closer than the final score indicated.

After getting the onside kick, NIU was driving for the tying score and you could see the momentum changing unitl Lynch got stupid and threw that INT. That just killed them and when FSU made it 24-10, you could see the bubble burst.

NIU looked really worn out in the 4th and it showed. As others have said, Lynch should have kept his mouth shut. No sense in giving any fodder type of fodder intentional or not(whether or not the reporter took it out of context or not, he should be saying anything like that in the first place).
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Posted: 1/2/2013 8:55 AM
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If Lynch didn't throw that interception the game would be 17-17 about 5 minutes into the 3rd quarter. Who knows what would've happen if they rode that momentum into the 4th quarter. I think this game will hurt the MAC a bit, as people will now say that we don't have what it takes to compete against an AQ conference team.
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What kind of offense was NIU running? Did they ever line up running backs behind Lynch? He missed several wide open receivers and they had a bunch of drops. They would have been right there. Nice trick plays. The former coach should not have left so quickly. That might have beenhis only chance to coach in a premier bowl game. He won't get it done at NC State. Just a bigger paycheck.
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I think with better offensive playcalling Florida State should have won by at least 30 points.  Its not often I agree with Matt Millen but he was right, if Florida State had just kept to the running game and kept pounding the ball on the ground throughout the game they would have dominated the game from the beginning.  Florida State's offensive line was generally having their way with NIU's d-line (what did the announcers say, that FSU's o-line outweighed NIU's d-line by an average of 50 pounds?!?).  And Florida State's overall team speed was something else.  Jordan Lynch may be fast, but most of Florida State's defensive front 7 seemed faster than him!  And Florida State's fullback was faster than NIU's entire defense.

I agree-on any given Saturday the top MAC teams can beat many if not most of the AQ teams.  But you give a Top 15 ranked AQ team that's motivated to win a month to prepare for a MAC team and the AQ team will win 99 times out of a 100.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 9:52 AM
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Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
I think with better offensive playcalling Florida State should have won by at least 30 points.  Its not often I agree with Matt Millen but he was right, if Florida State had just kept to the running game and kept pounding the ball on the ground throughout the game they would have dominated the game from the beginning.  Florida State's offensive line was generally having their way with NIU's d-line (what did the announcers say, that FSU's o-line outweighed NIU's d-line by an average of 50 pounds?!?).  And Florida State's overall team speed was something else.  Jordan Lynch may be fast, but most of Florida State's defensive front 7 seemed faster than him!  And Florida State's fullback was faster than NIU's entire defense.

I agree-on any given Saturday the top MAC teams can beat many if not most of the AQ teams.  But you give a Top 15 ranked AQ team that's motivated to win a month to prepare for a MAC team and the AQ team will win 99 times out of a 100.


The gap is closing, I would make it 7 out of 10.  Not long ago it was 99 out of 100 all laughers.  Credit to FSU, they might have top 5 talent and speed kills.
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NIU gave a credible effort against overwhelming odds. It was a "home" game for FSU to boot and everyone and their brother knew going in that FSU had superior talent across the board compared to NIU.

And to Herbstreet and the ESPNers, there are far worse tragedies going on in the world than NIU, aka the MAC, getting a once in a generation invitation to a BCS bowl.

All things considered, NIU performed and conducted themselves with far more class, than ESPN darling Southern Cal did this bowl season. Talk about embarrassing, Kiffen should be fired and USC should get more bowl bans and scholarships taken away for that Sun Bowl debacle, for their actions on and off the field.
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All things considered, NIU performed and conducted themselves with far more class, than ESPN darling Southern Cal did this bowl season.


True dat. FSU vs. USC was a hot preseason pick for the national title game this year. Whoops.

NIU was beat by superior talent, and you can't be upset at that. FSU has their pick of 5 star talent in a state loaded with it. The recruiting gurus can correct me, but off the top of my head I can't think of any 5 star ever coming to the MAC. To beat those odds, you have to play lights out and get a few lucky bounces. NIU played well, but not perfect, so they lost. 

But BCS bowls aren't about winning. They're about money. And we'll get a noticeably bigger chunk of it this year.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:28 AM
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I think with better offensive playcalling Florida State should have won by at least 30 points.  Its not often I agree with Matt Millen but he was right, if Florida State had just kept to the running game and kept pounding the ball on the ground throughout the game they would have dominated the game from the beginning.  Florida State's offensive line was generally having their way with NIU's d-line (what did the announcers say, that FSU's o-line outweighed NIU's d-line by an average of 50 pounds?!?).  And Florida State's overall team speed was something else.  Jordan Lynch may be fast, but most of Florida State's defensive front 7 seemed faster than him!  And Florida State's fullback was faster than NIU's entire defense.

I agree-on any given Saturday the top MAC teams can beat many if not most of the AQ teams.  But you give a Top 15 ranked AQ team that's motivated to win a month to prepare for a MAC team and the AQ team will win 99 times out of a 100.


The gap is closing, I would make it 7 out of 10.  Not long ago it was 99 out of 100 all laughers.  Credit to FSU, they might have top 5 talent and speed kills.


I do think the gap is closing a little bit.  I'm talking more about BCS bowl situations where the AQ team has a month to prepare for the game.  I just don't see any MAC teams being able to truly win at that BCS level right now.

You're right, speed kills and FSU has it.  Whew!  Were Nick Saban or Urban Meyer coaching FSU last night the score more likely would have been 50-7 or something like that.  But C Money's right, NIU did the MAC proud against overwhelming odds-and Dave Doeren didn't do NIU any favors by leaving within 24 hours of beating Kent State in the MACC.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:34 AM
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Yeah, I was wondering last night how any AQ team would've done if it was led by someone coaching their first game as a head coach. 

I thought NIU did ok.  They were in the game until the 4th Q, even tho FSU dominated them on both sides of the ball.  They weren't blown out early like Purdue, UCLA, Navy, BSU or Fresno St were, and they were playing much better competition in what was basically a home game for FSU.  They didn't get embarrassed. 

Wasn't impressed with Jimbo Fisher.  How do you get an unsportsmanlike called against you for barking at the refs when you're leading by three TDs with less than seven minutes to go in the game?  Could've had something to do with how his player got injured, but still, you gotta keep it under control.
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