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Chuck_IV
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:37 AM
C Money wrote:expand_more
But BCS bowls aren't about winning. They're about money. And we'll get a noticeably bigger chunk of it this year.


And that is why Herbie was whining so much about the MAC getting a BCS bid. Herbie has always been a shill for the Big conferences(so much so, I'm thinking he must get kickbacks or something) and wants to keep the money inhouse.

This is why I put ZERO credibility into any analysis he does because he doesn't/can't see things objectively at all.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:42 AM
C Money's comments are right on.  I don't care what if people agree with the star rating system or not but if we could get more 3-Star guys to start with, we could end up even better than we are.  We obviously develop the talent we get, I would just like to start that improvement with more higher rated players.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:50 AM
Casper71 wrote:expand_more
C Money's comments are right on.  I don't care what if people agree with the star rating system or not but if we could get more 3-Star guys to start with, we could end up even better than we are.  We obviously develop the talent we get, I would just like to start that improvement with more higher rated players.

If you track recruiting, every year it has gotten better, and I expect that to continue. The entire MAC saw a noticeable jump when they started the mid-week MACtion. Recruiting quality jumped quite a bit, all across the MAC in 2009-2010, and now we're seeing that on the field, with 7 MAC teams in bowls. Let's hope Kent wins the last one so the MAC ends up 3-4.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 1:19 PM
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Posted: 1/2/2013 2:17 PM
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I think with better offensive playcalling Florida State should have won by at least 30 points.  Its not often I agree with Matt Millen but he was right, if Florida State had just kept to the running game and kept pounding the ball on the ground throughout the game they would have dominated the game from the beginning.  Florida State's offensive line was generally having their way with NIU's d-line (what did the announcers say, that FSU's o-line outweighed NIU's d-line by an average of 50 pounds?!?).  And Florida State's overall team speed was something else.  Jordan Lynch may be fast, but most of Florida State's defensive front 7 seemed faster than him!  And Florida State's fullback was faster than NIU's entire defense.

I agree-on any given Saturday the top MAC teams can beat many if not most of the AQ teams.  But you give a Top 15 ranked AQ team that's motivated to win a month to prepare for a MAC team and the AQ team will win 99 times out of a 100.


The gap is closing, I would make it 7 out of 10.  Not long ago it was 99 out of 100 all laughers.  Credit to FSU, they might have top 5 talent and speed kills.


I do think the gap is closing a little bit.  I'm talking more about BCS bowl situations where the AQ team has a month to prepare for the game.  I just don't see any MAC teams being able to truly win at that BCS level right now.

You're right, speed kills and FSU has it.  Whew!  Were Nick Saban or Urban Meyer coaching FSU last night the score more likely would have been 50-7 or something like that.  But C Money's right, NIU did the MAC proud against overwhelming odds-and Dave Doeren didn't do NIU any favors by leaving within 24 hours of beating Kent State in the MACC.


It is a shame we never saw Ohio's D with Carrie, Shaw, Scott, Huynh, Jones, Hastings, Moore, Lewis, Woseley, Moore and Hughes.  I believe this would have been a fine BCS D, better than NIU's.  The same coaches/system/formula that assembled that group will continue to work for Ohio and who knows, most of the returning roster athletes were more highly regarded recruits than were the graduating seniors.  The highs keep getting higher and the lows are higher too.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 3:48 PM
This is nothing worse than Ohio State losing to LSU 41-14. Florida State was projected to win the National Title at the Beginning of the year. It was also sort of a home game as FSU was only 400 miles away compared to the 1200+ for the NIU Huskies. If Lynch never threw the interception the game would've been 17-13 or 17-17 midway through the 3rd quarter. It was pretty obvious that FSU was blitzing almost every play and the Huskies should've done the quick out routes or short passes and gain 5-6 yards a play instead of getting the big time play. I think having an interm coach with poor play selection on offense was a key factor. No good coach = no victories. Look at Ohio State last year in football and this year for us in basketball...
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:17 PM
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did you see ESPn roll out the strength of schedule graphic and showed the top 3 teams (all SEC I think) and the NIU at 120. Just an unnecessary  kick in the nuts.


Why is it unnecessary? Sometimes the truth hurts. Wanted NIU to win, but don't see anything wrong with someone pointing out that they didn't play many good teams.

They deserved to be there, they just didn't play well for 50 of the 60 minutes.


It was unnecessary because it was late in the 3rd quarter and NIU was already down a ton. Plus, how strong can a team in the MAC's schedule be? Ball State played 3 AQ schools and Army in OOC, played all 4 ranked MAC teams and still finished with a SOS of 75. Meanwhile Kentucky plays Lville, 2 nonAQs and an FCS as OOC but because they are in SEC have SOS of 15. SOS, like the BCS, is rigged.


What they showed wasn't SOS, it was simply the combined winning percentage of the teams that they played. And it was certainly worthy considering there were people out there that thought NIU didn't belong in the first place.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:37 PM
Florida State is a team that is just on another level than any MAC school.  They should have won big, given their athletic advantages.  Why the heck do you not use a running game when you AVERAGE 50 lbs more in the trenches?  Gotta give credit to Northern Illinois for the way they played.  Absolutely fearless.
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