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Posted: 9/15/2013 1:06 AM
We've given them plenty of games too.  That's what makes rivalry great.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 1:11 AM
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Is it too much to show some class? We don't win without 4 TO's by Marshall. Cato is damn good. I'll celebrate but Marshall gave us all we wanted. We have a lot of work to do yet. Our ground game was non-existent. Take away Vick's yards and we average 1 yard per carry.


Sorry, but you reap what you sow.   Some teams and fanbases deserve to be shown a modicum of respect, not  Marshall.  As for the "well, if it weren't for the 4 turnovers we wouldn't have beaten them", are you kidding me?



No, not kidding you. Cato > Tettleton. Throwing accuracy. Running ability. Any facet of the QB position and he wins hands down. Did you watch the game? Marshall posters here engage in typical lively exchanges. Sure, some may incite Bobcat posters but some of us respond in like manner. Medina Cat tonight had 2 pathetic posts. Guess I prefer to say "Good game Marshall" rather than trash them. Show me the many posts that suggest their fanbase is what you imply it to be ..... we see the same posters here year after year who are decent posters.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 1:48 AM
Marshall a better team than Ohio. Tettleton still injured from last year. Fortunate to get the win.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 1:51 AM
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Marshall a better team than Ohio. Tettleton still injured from last year. Fortunate to get the win.


You're drunk.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 2:17 AM
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Marshall a better team than Ohio. Tettleton still injured from last year. Fortunate to get the win.


I agree, without 4 turnovers Ohio loses by a few scores.. but turnovers are part of the game. 
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Posted: 9/15/2013 2:19 AM
To be fair, Marshall's a pretty talented football team. They've got multiple guys that will get a shot in the NFL, and a pretty veteran team. But...they lack DISCIPLINE, TOUGHNESS and COACHING. Three things that we excel in.

Frank Solich and his program are what has enabled us to win 3 straight over the Herd. On paper, they may have the better team. But when it comes to being a football program, it's not even close. As long as Frank is on the sidelines, I like our chances vs. Marshall.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 2:43 AM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
Is it too much to show some class? We don't win without 4 TO's by Marshall. Cato is damn good. I'll celebrate but Marshall gave us all we wanted. We have a lot of work to do yet. Our ground game was non-existent. Take away Vick's yards and we average 1 yard per carry.
Marshall is a classless institution, so yes it is too much to ask! And do not think for one moment they would not be all over this board if they won.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 3:06 AM
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As for the "well, if it weren't for the 4 turnovers we wouldn't have beaten them", are you kidding me?


Marshall would've won if they had scored more points.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 5:26 AM
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... Linda Lovelace...


Wow... OLDE school memories... 
 

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Posted: 9/15/2013 7:40 AM
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Agree 100%. Most impressive to me tonight were Vick and Waters.

One poster on the board was somewhat negative on Waters last year. I wonder if he's changed his mind?

Troy Hill had a lot of catches early, too. And, what about Devin Bass, who played a lot tonight, and Cato went after him?


I think he said something to the effect that OUr program will be in trouble if we continue to recruit players like Waters.  We might have been in trouble last night without him....he is what he is....a smart possession type receiver.....comes back to the ball and has great hands. He's no Randy Moss (obscure former Terd player reference) but he's a TEAM player.  We now have 3 decent receivers in Waters and Foster and Hill....with Cochran also in the mix.

This team is improving.  People are stepping up....guys like Bass and Russell on D and the young but ever improving offensive line.  If we stay healthy and get some injured guys back we will be a dangerous team for anyone to play.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 8:06 AM
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Marshall a better team than Ohio. Tettleton still injured from last year. Fortunate to get the win.


I agree, without 4 turnovers Ohio loses by a few scores.. but turnovers are part of the game. 


you make it sound like Ohio had nothing to do with causing any of those turnovers. They certainly have some talent. Cato is very good.  However the better TEAM won last night. 
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Posted: 9/15/2013 8:59 AM
As I was telling my wife about the game this morning I almost fell into the trap of "if it weren't for the turnovers...." then I realized if it were not for the hard hits right on the ball made by Ohio tacklers, the two fumbles would not have happened.  The offside penalties early were pure intimidation tactics from Marshal that backfired and gave Ohio some advantage.  

Ohio did not play stupid ball  with stupid penalties, Ohio did not turn the ball over 4 times, Ohio did not have to score or start a drive from their own 1 yard line twice (actually never),  

The bottom line Ohio played a better all around game.  Do they have room for improvement?   Yes.  

Is Cato better than Tettleton? Not last night and who cares.  

Let's enjoy the win.





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Posted: 9/15/2013 9:18 AM
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I think he said something to the effect that OUr program will be in trouble if we continue to recruit players like Waters.  We might have been in trouble last night without him....he is what he is....a smart possession type receiver.....comes back to the ball and has great hands. He's no Randy Moss (obscure former Terd player reference) but he's a TEAM player.  We now have 3 decent receivers in Waters and Foster and Hill....with Cochran also in the mix.

This team is improving.  People are stepping up....guys like Bass and Russell on D and the young but ever improving offensive line.  If we stay healthy and get some injured guys back we will be a dangerous team for anyone to play.

Exactly Doc. My answer last year was the same as it is now - He's a good, solid player, and fills a need.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 9:57 AM
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Marshall a better team than Ohio. Tettleton still injured from last year. Fortunate to get the win.


I agree, without 4 turnovers Ohio loses by a few scores.. but turnovers are part of the game. 


you make it sound like Ohio had nothing to do with causing any of those turnovers. They certainly have some talent. Cato is very good.  However the better TEAM won last night. 


Ohio has taken 13 turnovers from Marshall in the last 3 meetings, sounds like some solid team defense...
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Posted: 9/15/2013 10:04 AM
Before people fall into the trap of saying, 'if not for the turnovers...', realize that they dictate much of the game plan. If we needed it, I feel we could've punched into the end zone on our last drive. If we needed to provide more pressure on the final defensive drive, we could've. However, I believe Frank doesn't care about how much he wins by, just that he wins. He was willing to give up yards, and eventually a TD on their final drive as long as it ate up clock. He had an outstanding gameplay in the second half. Result...three straight wins over Marshall.

and as for Tettleton vs Cato...I think I'll take 3-0 over 0-3 anytime. Yards mean nothing. Wins do.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 10:31 AM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
No, not kidding you. Cato > Tettleton. Throwing accuracy. Running ability. Any facet of the QB position and he wins hands down.


I agree that Cato has more physical skills than T2, but what he lacks is consistent judgment.  He still throws into crowds too often, and I doubt that T2 would've thrown to a receiver who was on the ground ten yds away from the ball.  He's improved over two years ago -- and even last year -- but he's not there yet.

I can't blame people for sniping at the Terdistanis who come on here and stir things up during game week.  Yes, that's part of rivalry, but they should also have enough class to come back on after the game and eat some crow.  Instead, they mostly disappear, not to be heard from for another 51 weeks.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 12:12 PM
IF THE BOBCATS DIDNT COME OUT OF THE LOCKER ROOM MARSHALL WOULD HAVE WON THE GAME EASILY. JUST MY THOUGHTS.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 12:46 PM
Cato's a fine qb but he has no arm, no juice on his long balls.  They sail and gave our guys time to catch up, break up the passes.  Also our refusal inability to pressure him allows a high completion %.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 1:32 PM
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Cato's a fine qb but he has no arm, no juice on his long balls. They sail and gave our guys time to catch up, break up the passes. Also our refusal inability to pressure him allows a high completion %.
Hey threw great balls last night, at least two of his long balls were perfect throws, but spoiled by excellent defensive effort just tipping the ball away.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 1:49 PM
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Cato's a fine qb but he has no arm, no juice on his long balls. They sail and gave our guys time to catch up, break up the passes. Also our refusal inability to pressure him allows a high completion %.


Hey threw great balls last night, at least two of his long balls were perfect throws, but spoiled by excellent defensive effort just tipping the ball away.


If they were perfect throws they would have been completed. It was perfect coverage that defended a great pass. A perfect pass by definition cannot fall incomplete.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 2:01 PM
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No, not kidding you. Cato > Tettleton. Throwing accuracy. Running ability. Any facet of the QB position and he wins hands down.


Except, you know, winning.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 2:09 PM
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Except, you know, winning.


Exactly. Turnovers, discipline, toughness, etc. are all part of the game. It's not based purely on physical ability.

I laugh at how Marshall fans blame the loss on turnovers...as if that is some sort of factor external to the football game. Turnovers (or the lack thereof) frequently decide who wins.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 2:12 PM
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Posted: 9/15/2013 2:29 PM
Cats were simply tougher. How many starters were out? How many plays did Tettleton make last night? A wounded Ohio team took Marshall's best shot and punched them in the teeth.
No--Lechner, Johnson, Dovell, Smith, McGrath
No--Moore, Wells, Grady
Hopefully Marshall realizes that a team that they are better than, and handed the game to was starting four offensive lineman with essentially no experience. A team that played wide receiver groups at times last night with even less game experience. A team that is starting it's fifth corner.
The best Herd team in a decade? Maybe so. There were about 20 people on this board that thought Ohio wins that game last night. Quotes like Marshall is really good and the Magic is Gone.
Give me a break. I was amazed by the play of Watson, McQueen at guard. Waters, and Tet nutted up and brought it last night. Really good win for this team.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 2:39 PM
Maybe it couldn't be seen in the stadium (????) but it sure was VERY apparent on video that on at least 2-3 of Cato's long (about 40-50 yard) throws, his ball is on a loop, not a line.  That gave our db's time to recover.  'Recover' as in their man was behind them and a big arm gets it there with no chance for our db's to recover.  Cato has no arm for deep throws.  Look at replays.  I don't see how you could miss that.
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