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Posted: 10/30/2013 1:35 AM
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We can win but I agree that it will be tough to run on Beefs and that they have better standout players (top handful of guys...Neutz is tough).  Hopefully, our passing game is on and everyone of our deeper depth guys brings his top game.

Any thoughts on what the weather will be and its potential effect?

 

Weather forecast week in advance for Buffalo on Tuesday is sunny, only 10% chance of rain. High 53, low 45.

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Posted: 10/30/2013 9:26 AM
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By the same token Perimeterpost, exactly whom have we beaten in the MAC so far this year?  The 3 worst teams.   And the one-half decent team in the MAC we have played we lost to, at home on Homecoming Weekend of all weekends!   I'm not sure Ohio's in the position of minimizing Buffalo's opponents.


Ohio FBS wins-
5-3 North Texas
4-3 Marshall
2-7 Akron
1-7 EMU
0-8 Miami

Buffalo FBS wins-
2-7 Kent State
1-7 UMass
1-7 EMU
1-8 WMU
0-7 UConn

Ohio has already beaten 2 teams that will be bowl eligible, Buffalo hasn't beat squat.

As for the loss to CMU, its not good but its not horrible. They are 3-5 with games against EMU, UMass and @WMU left to play, they've got a very real shot of being bowl eligible.


Thank you Perimeterpost, you proved my point, which is, who in the MAC so far this year have we beaten?  The 3 MAC teams we've beaten are a combined 3-22 for a winning percentage of .12.  Buffalo's MAC opponents are a combined 5-29 for a winning percentage of .147.  I'm just trying to say let's not disrespect the caliber of MAC opponents Buffalo's beaten as Ohio hasn't done any better (so far).

That being said, I do agree with the other posters in that Ohio has much more experience playing in and performing successfully in high pressure games than Buffalo.  I do think that Coach Solich has held some plays back in the last game or two in preparation of playing Buffalo and BG these next two weeks.  I think and expect Ohio to win next Tuesday. 
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Posted: 10/30/2013 9:30 AM
Not that it's scientific, but since we're comparing 2 weak-thus-far conference schedules, Vegas has Kron a 1 point favorite at home vs. Can't. We beat Kron by 40. Buffalo beat Can't by 20.

The only common opponent is EMU. We won on the road by 28, Buffalo won at home by 28.

We're on the road in a mid-week game playing a team with a better conference record against whom we have on occasion in the past crapped the bed (especially on the road). Our opponent has the best defensive player in the conference and probably the best running back in the conference. Do I expect to be the underdog? Yes. But a 7-10 point line seems like a stretch given the evidence from games actually played.

Also, both Ohio (Louisville) and Buffalo (Baylor) have games that really skew their offensive and defensive stat rankings. I haven't had time to do it, but I am guessing that if you adjust for those outliers and focus on, say, the last 5 or 6 weeks, Ohio ranks ahead of Buffalo statistically on both offense and defense, against overall better opponents.

I was worried about this game pre-season (I picked us to lose). I really am not right now. Yes, we will need to play well. I think we will.

Believe.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 3:38 PM
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By the same token Perimeterpost, exactly whom have we beaten in the MAC so far this year?  The 3 worst teams.   And the one-half decent team in the MAC we have played we lost to, at home on Homecoming Weekend of all weekends!   I'm not sure Ohio's in the position of minimizing Buffalo's opponents.


Ohio FBS wins-
5-3 North Texas
4-3 Marshall
2-7 Akron
1-7 EMU
0-8 Miami

Buffalo FBS wins-
2-7 Kent State
1-7 UMass
1-7 EMU
1-8 WMU
0-7 UConn

Ohio has already beaten 2 teams that will be bowl eligible, Buffalo hasn't beat squat.

As for the loss to CMU, its not good but its not horrible. They are 3-5 with games against EMU, UMass and @WMU left to play, they've got a very real shot of being bowl eligible.


Thank you Perimeterpost, you proved my point, which is, who in the MAC so far this year have we beaten?  The 3 MAC teams we've beaten are a combined 3-22 for a winning percentage of .12.  Buffalo's MAC opponents are a combined 5-29 for a winning percentage of .147.  I'm just trying to say let's not disrespect the caliber of MAC opponents Buffalo's beaten as Ohio hasn't done any better (so far).

That being said, I do agree with the other posters in that Ohio has much more experience playing in and performing successfully in high pressure games than Buffalo.  I do think that Coach Solich has held some plays back in the last game or two in preparation of playing Buffalo and BG these next two weeks.  I think and expect Ohio to win next Tuesday. 


who cares if its a MAC opponent or not. Games are games. Ohio has beaten TWO teams with winning records this year, Buffalo has beaten ZERO. Ohio's seniors have won 42 games in 4.5 yrs, beat Penn State, won 2 Division titles, won 2 bowl games.. they don't have to prove they're good. Buffalo's seniors however have only won 20 games and only 1 was against a winning team. Zero winning seasons, zero bowl games, zero division titles. They are not a good team until they prove otherwise and they haven't done it yet this year.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 3:43 PM
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By the same token Perimeterpost, exactly whom have we beaten in the MAC so far this year?  The 3 worst teams.   And the one-half decent team in the MAC we have played we lost to, at home on Homecoming Weekend of all weekends!   I'm not sure Ohio's in the position of minimizing Buffalo's opponents.


Ohio FBS wins-
5-3 North Texas
4-3 Marshall
2-7 Akron
1-7 EMU
0-8 Miami

Buffalo FBS wins-
2-7 Kent State
1-7 UMass
1-7 EMU
1-8 WMU
0-7 UConn

Ohio has already beaten 2 teams that will be bowl eligible, Buffalo hasn't beat squat.

As for the loss to CMU, its not good but its not horrible. They are 3-5 with games against EMU, UMass and @WMU left to play, they've got a very real shot of being bowl eligible.


The issue with this is that you're looking at their schedule and assuming that they're nothing because they haven't beaten anyone. Thing is, they haven't lost to anyone poor either.

They gave O$U a pretty good game which for some reason, you're ignorantly overlooking...

At the same time, Ohio lost to CMU. So you can try to look at schedules and come up with conclusions...I'm just not buying it.

With that argument, you can basically diminish Ohio's last four seasons...Which I don't think any of us would do so why do it for Buffalo.

Many Kent fans said many of the same things you are saying now last week. That didn't turn out well for them.


- Buffalo did not give Ohio State a good game, it was 23-0 at the end f the first quarter, Buckeyes were on cruise control the rest of the game.


So when Ohio State was leading only 30-20 with four minutes left in the 3rd quarter, Buffalo wasn't in it? Stop with the BS. Sure Buffalo was never going to win but actually watch the game before spewing stuff like that. 


no, when Buffalo was down 2 scores they werent int the game. After Buffalo's only score in the 2nd half Ohio State immediately drove 91 yards for a TD, turned Buffalo over on downs and then drove 76 yards for a FG. Ball game.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 4:09 PM
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who cares if its a MAC opponent or not. Games are games. Ohio has beaten TWO teams with winning records this year, Buffalo has beaten ZERO. Ohio's seniors have won 42 games in 4.5 yrs, beat Penn State, won 2 Division titles, won 2 bowl games.. they don't have to prove they're good. Buffalo's seniors however have only won 20 games and only 1 was against a winning team. Zero winning seasons, zero bowl games, zero division titles. They are not a good team until they prove otherwise and they haven't done it yet this year.


This should be posted on the football player's lockers. UUUUUUhhh,RAHHHH.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 8:36 PM
This won't be popular but I don't care. The last 3 big MAC games with TT at QB:

MAC Championship N. Illinois.    2011  0 TD.  3 Int.     20 pts
Bowling Green.                            2012. 1 TD.  0 Int.     14 pts
Kent.                                            2012.  0 TD  1 Int.       6 pts

1 TD, 4 interceptions total with 13.3 points per game average. He has a lot to prove against good MAC competition.



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Posted: 10/30/2013 9:40 PM
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This won't be popular but I don't care. The last 3 big MAC games with TT at QB:

MAC Championship N. Illinois.    2011  0 TD.  3 Int.     20 pts
Bowling Green.                            2012. 1 TD.  0 Int.     14 pts
Kent.                                            2012.  0 TD  1 Int.       6 ptsbe

1 TD, 4 interceptions total with 13.3 points per game average. He has a lot to prove against good MAC competition.


Just amazing.  How you can reduce TT's body of work to three games.  That you pick three games, two that he played injured and the one from his sophomore year against the best team in the MAC and blindly overlook Ohio's only two bowl wins and 324 yds/2 TDs at University Park. PA.  At  this point an Ohio fan who can not get behind TT must be, well I don't know what.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 9:41 PM
It's easy to find the games where Ohio loss, and call them "big games", but there have been big games Ohio won as well. For example, in 2011, after 2 early losses, to get to the MACC Ohio had to win out, which they did, with big wins over Temple, BG, and Miami:
Temple 35-31 win, TT 15/24 258 yards, 3 TDs, no ints, Ohio coming from behind to win at the end, pass eff 194.05
BG 29-28 win, TT 18/27 194 yards, 1 TD, no ints, Ohio coming from down 28-19 to win, pass eff 139.24
Miami 21-14 win, TT 18/26 203 yards, 3 TDs, 1 int, pass eff 165.2
NIU 23-20  loss, TT 18-31 218 yards, 0 TDs, 3 ints, pass eff 97.78
Then there was the Potato Bowl, but that wasn't a MAC game

In 2012 he had big wins at Penn State and Marshall, but again, not MAC games. As for MAC games, it's hard to call a lot of them "big games", and in any case, he was hurt. Given that it was a loss, I'd have to call Miami a "big game", and the same for BG and Ball State. Against Kent Ohio was already out of the picture, so I wouldn't call it a "big game".
Miami - loss 23-20, TT 23-38 302 yards, 0 TD, 0 Int, pass eff 127.28
BG 26-14 loss, TT 21-34 145 yards, 1 TD, 0 ints, pass eff 107.29
Ball State 22-30 236 yards, 0 TD, 0 Int pass eff 139.41

This year, only CMU gets included, and then only because it was a loss:
CMU 26-23 loss, TT 24-33, 319 yards, 2 TD, 2 Int, pass eff 161.81

Overall for "big" MAC games, he is 159-243, 1875 yards, 10 TDs, 6 ints, pass efficiency 138.89

Really he's done fine in "big MAC games, with the exception of when he was hurt, in 2012.

TT is not my worry - he'll do fine against Buffalo. My concern - will enough offensive linemen be back to make some holes? Will the defensive line be able to keep up the sacks, yet hold down the number of big plays for Buffalo? To me those will be the keys to the game.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 9:44 PM
You know, it doesn't really matter who's played whom this year or how many points they've scored or given up.  What matters for this game is that we have to do a whole lot better on the road this year than we did at home last year:

                                     UB     OHIO
FIRST DOWNS...................       30       16
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............   56-313   36-149
PASSING YDS (NET).............      188      184
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........  36-19-0  27-15-1
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.....   92-501   63-333
Fumble Returns-Yards..........      0-0      0-0
Punt Returns-Yards............      1-0      0-0
Kickoff Returns-Yards.........     4-83    5-149
Interception Returns-Yards....      1-0      0-0
Punts (Number-Avg)............   5-31.2   4-31.0
Fumbles-Lost..................      4-3      0-0
Penalties-Yards...............    9-110     8-89
Possession Time...............    35:29    24:31
Third-Down Conversions........ 10 of 19  6 of 13
Fourth-Down Conversions.......   1 of 2   0 of 2
Red-Zone Scores-Chances.......      4-4      3-4
Sacks By: Number-Yards........     1-10     1-12 


They're plus 15 in TOs, so we can't expect them to turn it over like last year. 
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Posted: 10/30/2013 9:45 PM
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This won't be popular but I don't care. The last 3 big MAC games with TT at QB:

MAC Championship N. Illinois.    2011  0 TD.  3 Int.     20 pts
Bowling Green.                            2012. 1 TD.  0 Int.     14 pts
Kent.                                            2012.  0 TD  1 Int.       6 pts

1 TD, 4 interceptions total with 13.3 points per game average. He has a lot to prove against good MAC competition.


way to cherry pick your data points. Why did you leave out the Ball State game between BG and Kent, did it not fit your narrative? And why is the last game of the season vs Kent a big game? The division race was already over. And let's not even mention the blackout game vs Temple or the 15 play, 7 minute drive at the end of the 4th quarter against BG that gave Ohio the East title.

but more to the point- WHY ARE YOU BASHING OUR QB?? The winningest QB in program history has a lot to prove against good MAC competition? are you serious?

on a broader note- what is up with the cynicism and pessimism that has infested our fanbase, I'm not calling for all green shaded glasses but a lot of the comments on here recently sound like comments you'd hear from fans of other MAC teams about Ohio.

Buffalo sucks. Go Ohio.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 9:48 PM
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You know, it doesn't really matter who's played whom this year or how many points they've scored or given up.  What matters for this game is that we have to do a whole lot better on the road this year than we did at home last year:

                                     UB     OHIO
FIRST DOWNS...................       30       16
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............   56-313   36-149
PASSING YDS (NET).............      188      184
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........  36-19-0  27-15-1
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.....   92-501   63-333
Fumble Returns-Yards..........      0-0      0-0
Punt Returns-Yards............      1-0      0-0
Kickoff Returns-Yards.........     4-83    5-149
Interception Returns-Yards....      1-0      0-0
Punts (Number-Avg)............   5-31.2   4-31.0
Fumbles-Lost..................      4-3      0-0
Penalties-Yards...............    9-110     8-89
Possession Time...............    35:29    24:31
Third-Down Conversions........ 10 of 19  6 of 13
Fourth-Down Conversions.......   1 of 2   0 of 2
Red-Zone Scores-Chances.......      4-4      3-4
Sacks By: Number-Yards........     1-10     1-12 


They're plus 15 in TOs, so we can't expect them to turn it over like last year. 


you forgot one other statistic from that game

SCOREBOARD
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Posted: 10/30/2013 9:52 PM
Exactly, Pataskala. Last year Ohio's defense was missing too many parts. This year it is much healthier. It is going to need a big game. The old saying is "Defense wins Championships", and I think that will be true down the stretch. In terms of points give up, the three best defenses in the MAC are BG, Ohio, and Buffalo at 18.5, 21.8, and 22.9 respectively. In terms of yards, again it is BG, Ohio, and Buffalo at the top, with 357, 375, and 380 respectively.

I don't expect MACtion. In my opinion, the MAC East will be decided by whose defense plays the best down the stretch. I like Ohio's chances - their defense keeps getting better.

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I've only seen one UB game this year.  It was the UConn game.  That was, I believe, one week after UConn lost a close heartbreaker to Michigan.  I had watched that game, too, on national TV.  The UConn-UB game I watched on my iPad via WatchESPN.  An any rate, UB really took it to UConn in the second half.  I was very impressed.  UConn, admittedly, didn't look like the team that had had UofM on the ropes.  Nonetheless, I was very impressed with UB in that game.  I think OHIO is in for a tough game, but my money (if I were a betting man, which I'm not) would be on OHIO.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 10:22 PM
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You know, it doesn't really matter who's played whom this year or how many points they've scored or given up.  What matters for this game is that we have to do a whole lot better on the road this year than we did at home last year:

                                     UB     OHIO
FIRST DOWNS...................       30       16
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............   56-313   36-149
PASSING YDS (NET).............      188      184
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........  36-19-0  27-15-1
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.....   92-501   63-333
Fumble Returns-Yards..........      0-0      0-0
Punt Returns-Yards............      1-0      0-0
Kickoff Returns-Yards.........     4-83    5-149
Interception Returns-Yards....      1-0      0-0
Punts (Number-Avg)............   5-31.2   4-31.0
Fumbles-Lost..................      4-3      0-0
Penalties-Yards...............    9-110     8-89
Possession Time...............    35:29    24:31
Third-Down Conversions........ 10 of 19  6 of 13
Fourth-Down Conversions.......   1 of 2   0 of 2
Red-Zone Scores-Chances.......      4-4      3-4
Sacks By: Number-Yards........     1-10     1-12 


They're plus 15 in TOs, so we can't expect them to turn it over like last year. 


you forgot one other statistic from that game

SCOREBOARD


Didn't forget.  But we won, in no small part, because of the TOs.  They fumbled twice inside their own 15 and we got TDs out of them. 
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Posted: 10/31/2013 1:34 AM
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You know, it doesn't really matter who's played whom this year or how many points they've scored or given up.  What matters for this game is that we have to do a whole lot better on the road this year than we did at home last year:

                                     UB     OHIO
FIRST DOWNS...................       30       16
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............   56-313   36-149
PASSING YDS (NET).............      188      184
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........  36-19-0  27-15-1
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.....   92-501   63-333
Fumble Returns-Yards..........      0-0      0-0
Punt Returns-Yards............      1-0      0-0
Kickoff Returns-Yards.........     4-83    5-149
Interception Returns-Yards....      1-0      0-0
Punts (Number-Avg)............   5-31.2   4-31.0
Fumbles-Lost..................      4-3      0-0
Penalties-Yards...............    9-110     8-89
Possession Time...............    35:29    24:31
Third-Down Conversions........ 10 of 19  6 of 13
Fourth-Down Conversions.......   1 of 2   0 of 2
Red-Zone Scores-Chances.......      4-4      3-4
Sacks By: Number-Yards........     1-10     1-12 


They're plus 15 in TOs, so we can't expect them to turn it over like last year. 


you forgot one other statistic from that game

SCOREBOARD


Didn't forget.  But we won, in no small part, because of the TOs.  They fumbled twice inside their own 15 and we got TDs out of them. 


And you don't think those short drives into the endzone could help explain our smaller total yards/first downs?
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Posted: 10/31/2013 6:53 AM
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You know, it doesn't really matter who's played whom this year or how many points they've scored or given up.  What matters for this game is that we have to do a whole lot better on the road this year than we did at home last year:

                                     UB     OHIO
FIRST DOWNS...................       30       16
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............   56-313   36-149
PASSING YDS (NET).............      188      184
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........  36-19-0  27-15-1
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.....   92-501   63-333
Fumble Returns-Yards..........      0-0      0-0
Punt Returns-Yards............      1-0      0-0
Kickoff Returns-Yards.........     4-83    5-149
Interception Returns-Yards....      1-0      0-0
Punts (Number-Avg)............   5-31.2   4-31.0
Fumbles-Lost..................      4-3      0-0
Penalties-Yards...............    9-110     8-89
Possession Time...............    35:29    24:31
Third-Down Conversions........ 10 of 19  6 of 13
Fourth-Down Conversions.......   1 of 2   0 of 2
Red-Zone Scores-Chances.......      4-4      3-4
Sacks By: Number-Yards........     1-10     1-12 


They're plus 15 in TOs, so we can't expect them to turn it over like last year. 


you forgot one other statistic from that game

SCOREBOARD


Didn't forget.  But we won, in no small part, because of the TOs.  They fumbled twice inside their own 15 and we got TDs out of them. 


And you don't think those short drives into the endzone could help explain our smaller total yards/first downs?


I'm not pointing to our totals.  I'm pointing to theirs.  Tuesday night, if we give up 300+ yds rushing, 500+ total O and 30 first downs plus let them go 4-4 in the red zone, we can't expect to win.  They aren't turning the ball over much this season -- only 6 total in 8 games -- so they're probably not going to hurt themselves much.

BTW, they haven't turned the ball over in a MAC game yet this season.  Granted, the opposition hasn't been much, but they aren't helping the other team stay in the game with turnovers.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:45 AM
A big reason for so many yards was because Buffalo ran 92 plays on offense in that game. Part of that can be explained by Buffalo converting more than 50 percent of its third downs, but part of it was the fact that Ohio's offense wasn't on the field much because of the short fields they were given.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 12:33 PM
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A big reason for so many yards was because Buffalo ran 92 plays on offense in that game. Part of that can be explained by Buffalo converting more than 50 percent of its third downs, but part of it was the fact that Ohio's offense wasn't on the field much because of the short fields they were given.


We definitely won that game on field position and Daz's kickoff return for a TD.  On average we started drives at our own 48 while Buffalo started at its own 19.  Some of that was due to their mistakes; we recovered three fumbles on their side of midfield.  But they also moved the ball really well with drives of 75, 77, 82 & 93 yds and two around 50.  It's really the 300+ yds rushing they got on us last year that concerns me most.  Their O line is similar in size to CMU's & EMU's, and they hit us for 208 & 315 on the ground this year.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 1:11 PM
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A big reason for so many yards was because Buffalo ran 92 plays on offense in that game. Part of that can be explained by Buffalo converting more than 50 percent of its third downs, but part of it was the fact that Ohio's offense wasn't on the field much because of the short fields they were given.


We definitely won that game on field position and Daz's kickoff return for a TD.  On average we started drives at our own 48 while Buffalo started at its own 19.  Some of that was due to their mistakes; we recovered three fumbles on their side of midfield.  But they also moved the ball really well with drives of 75, 77, 82 & 93 yds and two around 50.  It's really the 300+ yds rushing they got on us last year that concerns me most.  Their O line is similar in size to CMU's & EMU's, and they hit us for 208 & 315 on the ground this year.


Throw in a good TE, a good 250 lb FB, an NFL caliber RB and Mr Russell will have a sore neck after the game. 
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Posted: 10/31/2013 3:55 PM
This game should also be the healthiest our OL has been all season (save Louisville).  I'm excited to see what we can do with Lechner, Prior, and Johnson all back in the lineup.

As for who's more talented, I think that comes down to your definition.  Buffalo has the high end talent in players like Mack Oliver and Nuetz, but Ohio is a much deeper team at nearly every position.

Just my opinion but:
  • Ohio has the advantage at 3 spots (QB, OL, DB)
  • Buffalo a clear advantage at 2 spots (RB and LB)
  • I'd call Recievers, and DL a push.  Nuetz would be our #1 I think, but I'd take Foster Cochrane and the crew over everyone else.   Their DL seem to stop the run better, while we get after the QB better.
  • I Dont know much about their special teams to rate.
     
I think it will be a good game and come down to those unpredictable items, specifically turnovers, and the special teams ability to change field position.  To me, this feels a lot like the build-up to our games with Temple in the past.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 8:28 PM
It's November.  Seniors running out of time in the game they love.  Time for Four solid quarters of high octain football

+5 to view the affair!!  Will wave to you homebound TV watchers and do a little Stand Up and Cheer for the boys in Green and White. GO OHIO woup the BEEF...
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:41 PM
I hate to be negative Nancy, but I think this is one we lose, and lose badly.  Our defense has not been particularly good against the run this season (witness how badly CMU gashed us over and over again) and that is the Beeves strong suit.  I predict a long night where the defense can't get off the field and a loss 34-14.

Now go out there and prove me wrong guys!
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Posted: 10/31/2013 11:09 PM
If you want a laugh or two, read the hate thread on their message board.

http://www.ubfan.com/board/index.php?topic=14674.0

I love how they cherry picked one sentence from my entire comment.  Flattering!
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Posted: 11/1/2013 12:27 AM
Eagle66 wrote:expand_more
This game should also be the healthiest our OL has been all season (save Louisville).  I'm excited to see what we can do with Lechner, Prior, and Johnson all back in the lineup.

As for who's more talented, I think that comes down to your definition.  Buffalo has the high end talent in players like Mack Oliver and Nuetz, but Ohio is a much deeper team at nearly every position.

Just my opinion but:
  • Ohio has the advantage at 3 spots (QB, OL, DB)
  • Buffalo a clear advantage at 2 spots (RB and LB)
  • I'd call Recievers, and DL a push.  Nuetz would be our #1 I think, but I'd take Foster Cochrane and the crew over everyone else.   Their DL seem to stop the run better, while we get after the QB better.
  • I Dont know much about their special teams to rate.
     
I think it will be a good game and come down to those unpredictable items, specifically turnovers, and the special teams ability to change field position.  To me, this feels a lot like the build-up to our games with Temple in the past.


That's a good way to look at it. That's close to how I feel as well. When I was referring to Buffalo being more talented, I meant top-end talent but didn't specify.
Last Edited: 11/1/2013 12:29:18 AM by Mike Bundt WHIZ
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