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Posted: 11/20/2013 12:53 PM

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Still love the guys and am excited for the future..anyone see the WR core we could possibly have for the next few years WOW.

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Posted: 11/20/2013 1:04 PM

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I think you're correct LC - something is just terribly wrong with this team, this program, this year. We can all only hope that it's just This Year.

I left the Louisville game with a feeling that there was an enormous disinterest - or disconnect with the Bobcats. That feeling has lingered through-out the year. This team now screams to me - let's get this season over with and fast.

Hopefully a winter of discontent and reflection will prove beneficial for the future. I don't buy into it's a talent problem. We've won with less talent. We reached a bottom were we don't even seem eager to compete. Hopefully Frank and Company will figure it out. I don't think the man has forgotten how to coach. His track record is proven and speaks for itself. I'll be stunned if this doesn't get corrected for next season.

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Posted: 11/20/2013 1:04 PM

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Count me in the "I watch a lot of Ohio football and I just don't get what happened" camp. Gotta be more to it...

Regarding Boykin.. I saw Phil Bates question why he didn't get any carries yesterday. Boykin favoried that tweet.

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Posted: 11/20/2013 3:28 PM

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I think you're correct LC - something is just terribly wrong with this team, this program, this year. We can all only hope that it's just This Year.

I attributed the Louisville game to too little hitting in Spring and Fall camps, meaning that the team wasn't aggressive enough. Well, I think that was partly right, but I think there is more wrong than that. My best guess is that the players somehow developed a sense of entitlement, as in, they are better than rest of the MAC, and that they could win by just showing up, and they didn't have to work hard in the off season.

I agree it isn't a talent issue. This team has more talent, by far, than the 2006 team. The 2006 team, however, was hungry. They wanted it. As a result, after the horrible finish to 2005, they worked really hard all winter, and had a chip on their shoulder. That chip also got them into trouble over that long winter. Numerous Bobcats were arrested that winter, from Assault to UAC to horse punching. It all came to roost at the BG game, where, after the arrests were detailed in the Columbus Dispatch, fans sat on their hands, and the players laid an egg, after which, the Senior leaders circled the wagons, made sure the players all knew they sure as heck better stay out of trouble, and then the team played with an agenda for the rest of the year.

I don't wish for a repeat of the arrests of 2006, but I hope the Coaches and non-Seniors have a good hard think about what things need to change for next year. I hope the non-Seniors have a chip on their shoulder, and they work their collective butts off all winter. It is that winter conditioning that gives them the strength and endurance to be the stronger team in the second half, something they have been sorely lacking in this year. I'm sure some blame the strength and conditioning coach, but the bottom line is that it's the players that have to want it.

Football is a year-round sport. Next year starts now.

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Posted: 11/20/2013 5:51 PM

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A large majority of what people post on here can be considered a "RUMOR" but you choose to edit my message cool its your board keep it. When someone posts something directly from a source is that a rumor even if the source chooses to remain un-named. Get your stuff together and manage the board fairly.

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Posted: 11/20/2013 5:54 PM

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I just found that post (from the players) so that also confirms to me its more than a couple of disgruntled players running of at the mouth usually where there is smoke fire is not to far behind. I guess thats a "rumor" too huh?. Something is wrong and it needs to be fixed this team is MUCH better than what's been going on.

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Posted: 11/20/2013 6:18 PM

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I saw the play, too, and watched it several times on the DVR...

At first I was ranting and raving, but I think, honestly, he just slipped... and fell on his butt.

But I agree, generally, that TT doesn't seem to "okay" with the idea of getting hit.

I think he's smart enough to know that there is no MAC championship waiting for him, and there is no NFL career, so there's not much sense in getting seriously hurt for no apparent reason.

Me, I happen to agree with him.

But I'd say something to the coaches about it, and I'd say it's Vick's team now... and gosh but my neck and back hurt and my knee is killing me.

Find any reason to not be out there, other than just going thru the motions on national TV.

That's the part I don't understand.

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Posted: 11/21/2013 12:22 AM

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I think you're correct LC - something is just terribly wrong with this team, this program, this year. We can all only hope that it's just This Year.

The highlighted is a very, very good point.

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Posted: 11/21/2013 1:53 AM

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Take a look at our losses under TT-

2011
(11-3) N Illinois- 3pts- Terrible loss. Up 20-0 at half time and CHOKE in the second half.
(9-4) Rutgers, 12pts- Tough road loss to a good AQ school.
(6-6) Ball St., 3pts- Lost at home. On homecoming. Unacceptable.
(3-9) Buffalo, 1pt.- TERRIBLE loss. UB's only other wins that year were against 1-11Akron and an FCS team.

4 losses, 3 were terrible.

2012
(11-3) Kent St, 22pts- BLOWN OUT, looked uncompetitive and disinterested
(9-4) Ball St, 25pts- BLOWN OUT by a good team on the road.
(8-5) BGSU, 12pts- Bad loss. Self destructed in a must win game.
(4-8) Miami, 3pts.- TERRIBLE loss. Only other wins were FCS, UMass and Akron. Lost next 16 and counting.

4 losses, Kent and Ball were acceptable losses but we were uncompetitive, BG and Miami were disasters.

2013
(9-1) Lville, 42pts- Tough road game, but played well below our ability.
(8-3) Buffalo, 27pts- BLOWN OUT. must win road game, totally uncompetitive
(7-3) BGSU, 49pts- BLOWN OUT. must win road game, totally uncompetitive
(4-8) Kent St, 31pts- BLOWN OUT. must win home game, totally uncompetitive
(4-6) CMU, 3pts- We lost on homecoming to an avg to below avg team, again.
(1-9) UMass- ???? anything is possible at this point.

5 losses (maybe 6). No excuse for losing to CMU or Kent State, Lville, BGSU and Buffalo were tough road games but we were totally uncompetitive.

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We've lost 13 games in the last 3 years, 5 of those were against horrible teams. Of the 8 losses against bowl teams, 6 were blow outs of 3TDs+, 1 was a total collapse in the MACC, and there was one decent loss at Rutgers, and its the oldest loss.

We very realistically could have been 12-1 in 2011 with a MACC win, 11-2 in 2012, and should be 11-1 or 10-2 right now with plans for Detroit. Why do we lose to so many bad teams? Why do we get blown out so often when the season is on the line? Why do we never lose close games to good teams?

Is it normal for good teams to lose the way we lose?

I'm not putting all of these losses on TT but rather mentioning them in regards to the overall struggles of the team.

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Posted: 11/25/2013 1:56 PM

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I think a whole lot of this is on TT. However, there is absolutely no talent around him, period. The line sucks and the receivers are slow and drop balls. This is on a lack of bigger, stronger, faster athletes than the opposition.

Besides that, the defense has given up 120 something points the last three weeks. No ability to cover or tacklet.

Up until this year, i always said FS teams were prepared and focused. Not so the last three games. Anyone see them come out for the second half? Kent comes out together, gets in lines and does its warm up. We have guys straggling out at kick off time and everyone is doing their own thing to get ready. Its a little thing but it just shows our lack of preparedness.

Did you seriously say our receivers are slow. Drop balls maybe…
Cochran may be one of the fastest players in the MAC. Drop balls … I believe he's had one and that was a penalty.
Donte. Fast and can get open. Just a few dropped balls
Waters: May not be a speedster but can generally pull in most balls.

The problem is we keep rotating 8 other receivers into the game. OU is the only team I've ever seen who feel the need to use 12 receivers per game.

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Posted: 11/25/2013 5:29 PM

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Traits (speed, hands, etc) aren't particularly meaningful compared to accomplishments on the field.

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Posted: 11/25/2013 10:10 PM

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Traits (speed, hands, etc) aren't particularly meaningful compared to accomplishments on the field.

Can't argue with you there. It's hard not to like this group receivers. It's easily the most solid position on the team this year:
Foster - Clearly one of the best 4 receivers at Ohio, ever (along with Price, Brazill, and Snyder)
#5 and #6 in single season receptions at Ohio
#6 in most receptions in a game
#2 in most career receptions at Ohio (155 and counting, but won't catch LaVon)
#7 in most yards receiving in a year (769 and counting, could end up at high as #2)
#5 in Ohio history in most yards receiving, career at 1808 and counting
#1 in most TDs receiving in a year (20 and counting)
Among onthers
Cochran -
#7 in the country and #1 in the MAC in average yards per reception
#3 in Ohio history for average yards/reception career
#10 at Ohio in most yards in a game
at 614 yards receiving for the season - needs 659 for top 10
Waters - No records for him, but catches every game, and always coming up with key catches

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Posted: 11/25/2013 11:31 PM

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Traits (speed, hands, etc) aren't particularly meaningful compared to accomplishments on the field.

We can spin it how we want...but this is a pretty weak group of receivers. Foster made a great #2 option, the rest wouldn't start for most MAC teams.

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Posted: 11/26/2013 8:05 AM

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Traits (speed, hands, etc) aren't particularly meaningful compared to accomplishments on the field.

We can spin it how we want...but this is a pretty weak group of receivers. Foster made a great #2 option, the rest wouldn't start for most MAC teams.

Well, no. It is as a group that they become pretty strong, not weak. Consider that in the Ohio system they are all roll players and blocking is as key as deep threat receiving. That the group includes Mario too. We will just have to disagree on this.

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Posted: 11/26/2013 2:25 PM

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Traits (speed, hands, etc) aren't particularly meaningful compared to accomplishments on the field.

I can agree with that...

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Posted: 11/26/2013 2:32 PM

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Traits (speed, hands, etc) aren't particularly meaningful compared to accomplishments on the field.

We can spin it how we want...but this is a pretty weak group of receivers. Foster made a great #2 option, the rest wouldn't start for most MAC teams.

How can you possibly say that… Is it because of their low numbers vs other mac teams. If so, then see my comment about the rotation of the number of receivers. For a run first offense the numbers are pretty good.

What evidence do you have to support they would not start for other teams. I would challenge that if they played for other teams their numbers would be much much better. What makes the other MAC receivers better than the 3 we have. Oh, an our receivers do a great job blocking… An added feature most of the other MAC teams don't have...

Come on…

These 3 seem to make the most out of anything thrown at them. The unfortunate thing is that TT only gives them about 1.5 seconds to get open or he decides to throw it out of bounds or sits down….

This is why I get upset. I see so much potential in this Bobcat team but we don't use it due to the many many many issues we have already expressed since week one.

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Posted: 11/26/2013 2:40 PM

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Hmm...blocking for running game also?

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Posted: 11/26/2013 2:44 PM

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Hmm...blocking for running game also?

Yea.. What few plays we have tried to hit the corners have been successful. On those few instances where Beau hit the secondary the WR seemed to always be there...

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Posted: 11/27/2013 12:21 AM

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I've seen taylor price and lavon brazile...this group of receivers does not have either!

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Posted: 11/27/2013 12:40 AM

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I've seen taylor price and lavon brazile...this group of receivers does not have either!

Are you disputing the numbers and recuriting guru?

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Posted: 11/27/2013 9:55 AM

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I've seen taylor price and lavon brazile...this group of receivers does not have either!

Are you disputing the numbers and recuriting guru?

My comments were in response to an earlier comment suggesting that our receivers could not start for any other MAC team. They were not comparing these 3 to Lavon or Taylor. However, since the comparison was made then I'll have to challenge that as well. Are they as good as Lavon or Taylor. No. But they have better numbers.

Now regarding the comment about the fact these 3 could not start for any other MAC team. I saw two teams play last night that I'm confident would love to have our receivers. WMU, NIU receivers were not impressive. (I'll admit the cold weather could have impacted their play).

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Posted: 11/27/2013 10:28 AM

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I've seen taylor price and lavon brazile...this group of receivers does not have either!

Statistically I think these 3 may be right up there

2009 (14 games)
Price 56/784
Lavon 53/702
Top 3 receivers including Lavon and price 144/2000

2010 (13 games)
Lavon no stats
Top 3 87/1200

2011 (14 games)
Lavon 74/1146
Top 3 including Lavon 147/1900

2012 (13 games)
Donte 56/659
Cochran 22/3787
Top 3 including Lavon & Cochran 109/1450

2013 (11 games)
Donte 57/769
Cochran 30/614
Waters 32/446
Top 3 total: 119/1829

Using those averages.. If you take avg and assume 13 games the top 3 would be at 140/2161
Assuming 14 games then it could be 150/2327

Don't know about you but I would have to rank these guys production right up their with the top 3 from any of our recent teams.

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Posted: 11/27/2013 10:34 AM

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Again, the numbers tell a story but sometimes it takes a "trained eye" to reveal the real truth. Haha!

I am wondering if part of it is the number of pass attempts this year vs the past? And, I am not sying these guys aren't good...but do you really think any will play in the NFL like Price and Brazile?

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Posted: 11/27/2013 10:56 AM

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I doubt any of these will play in the NFL… Just looking at output on the field. However, for some reason my gut is telling me Donte could find his way on at least a practice team.

Waters: Pretty sure he will not have a chance.

Cochran: I'll hold my opinion until next season. If he were a SR then I would say no chance. There is just something about him that makes me wonder… He was 1st team all state in Div 1 in Ohio and a State Champion in Track… Larger schools passed on him probably because he only weighed 155 lbs… No reason for schools to take a chance on whether or not they could put the weight on him.   He's now playing at 192.
You have to wonder if he were 185 in hs with those credentials would he be somewhere else…. Again, the verdict is still out on him so I'll wait till next year.

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Posted: 11/27/2013 10:59 AM

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Agree Rowdy...