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Posted: 5/27/2014 7:43 PM
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Some, and i do mot mean this as a conviction to the group, but are just sad!
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Posted: 5/27/2014 7:48 PM
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So wonder what OSU fans would think if a prized Columbus area kid went to Michigan? Our minor disdain in this thread pales in comparison to the hate and vitriol they would spew in that situation.
Last Edited: 5/27/2014 7:50:54 PM by BuddyLee
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:12 PM
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For some reason, when it comes to O$U recruiting, I think of this.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 8:23 PM
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Him turning down a OSU QB offer and going to a MAC school is similar to a Microsoft exec leaving to work the cash register at Radio Shack. This is strictly a football choice at least Ohio was in the mix with the initial offer. And he works out in OUr weight room lol.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 9:15 PM
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Bobcatzblitz wrote:expand_more
Him turning down a OSU QB offer and going to a MAC school is similar to a Microsoft exec leaving to work the cash register at Radio Shack. This is strictly a football choice at least Ohio was in the mix with the initial offer. And he works out in OUr weight room lol.

Or, would it be like Cleve Bryant saying no to OSU and yes to Ohio? Or like Roethlisberger saying yes to Miami and no to OSU? Lots of players turn down BCS offers to play at Ohio and other MAC schools. It isn't impossible, nor did it hurt either of those player's careers.

Still, it's time to move on. Ohio is still recruiting some fine QB's. Let's hope one of those chooses Ohio, and we can all get behind him and root for him. Those of us that like to see OSU lose will continue to do so, and those that root for OSU to win will continue to do so. Life goes on.
Last Edited: 5/27/2014 9:16:44 PM by L.C.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 10:30 PM
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LOL Cleve Bryant and Big Ben how many times are those 2 examples going to be the standard bearers of "sure it happens all the time". Sure it doesn't happen all the time I would wager out of the last 1000 QB's offered by OSU those are the only 2 examples that went to a MAC school and spurned the OSU offer.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 10:49 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
Or, would it be like Cleve Bryant saying no to OSU and yes to Ohio? Or like Roethlisberger saying yes to Miami and no to OSU? Lots of players turn down BCS offers to play at Ohio and other MAC schools. It isn't impossible, nor did it hurt either of those player's careers.

Still, it's time to move on. Ohio is still recruiting some fine QB's. Let's hope one of those chooses Ohio, and we can all get behind him and root for him. Those of us that like to see OSU lose will continue to do so, and those that root for OSU to win will continue to do so. Life goes on.

To be fair, Roethlisberger turned down playing Tight End at OSU for playing QB at Fiami.

 
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Posted: 5/27/2014 10:49 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
Him turning down a OSU QB offer and going to a MAC school is similar to a Microsoft exec leaving to work the cash register at Radio Shack. This is strictly a football choice at least Ohio was in the mix with the initial offer. And he works out in OUr weight room lol.

Or, would it be like Cleve Bryant saying no to OSU and yes to Ohio? Or like Roethlisberger saying yes to Miami and no to OSU? Lots of players turn down BCS offers to play at Ohio and other MAC schools. It isn't impossible, nor did it hurt either of those player's careers.

Still, it's time to move on. Ohio is still recruiting some fine QB's. Let's hope one of those chooses Ohio, and we can all get behind him and root for him. Those of us that like to see OSU lose will continue to do so, and those that root for OSU to win will continue to do so. Life goes on.

I think Big Ben was also recruited to tOSU to play tight end, when he wanted to play QB.

 
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Posted: 5/27/2014 11:01 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
Him turning down a OSU QB offer and going to a MAC school is similar to a Microsoft exec leaving to work the cash register at Radio Shack. This is strictly a football choice at least Ohio was in the mix with the initial offer. And he works out in OUr weight room lol.

Or, would it be like Cleve Bryant saying no to OSU and yes to Ohio? Or like Roethlisberger saying yes to Miami and no to OSU? Lots of players turn down BCS offers to play at Ohio and other MAC schools. It isn't impossible, nor did it hurt either of those player's careers.

Still, it's time to move on. Ohio is still recruiting some fine QB's. Let's hope one of those chooses Ohio, and we can all get behind him and root for him. Those of us that like to see OSU lose will continue to do so, and those that root for OSU to win will continue to do so. Life goes on.
Poor analogy, as neither QB was being recruited as a QB and was being asked to play a different position.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 11:43 PM
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Different things matter to recruits. If playing time was a concern, perhaps he goes to a WVU or Cincinnati where he has a better chance of seeing the field. Not sure it means he comes here, but it may have been a different decision. There have been plenty of guys that factor that in to their recruitment.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 11:47 PM
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71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
In today's world a player can make it all the way to Heisman candidate and on the the NFL from the Mid American Conference, ie. Jordan Lynch & Ben Rothlesberger.
Just think how he could have continued to elevate the program further.
I'm disappointed.

GO BOBCATS


Good point. Some MAC players can even be a #1 NFL draft pick.

Good luck to him. I find it ironic that many who complain about people who leave Athens for better opportunities have left Athens for better opportunities (not you 71).
Last Edited: 5/27/2014 11:49:07 PM by OhioStunter
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Good luck to him. I find it ironic that many who complain about people who leave Athens for better opportunities have left Athens for better opportunities (not you 71).


I don't really see the connection. There are extremely few jobs for college grads in Athens. It's not leaving for better opportunities...there's just no opportunities to begin with.

Those of us that do live here and consider it home love it. And I've worked with a number of people who have had good opportunities but chose to stay and enjoy the quality of life we have. For some, it's not about the money or recognition. Perhaps Saul Phillips is in the same mold as me, time will tell.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 12:21 AM
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If I ever have a child that chooses to go to OSU I will support them, but it will be sooooo hard to.

And I also think Burrow never sees the field barring multiple injuries at osu, unless you count during a scarlet and gray game.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 1:01 AM
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His dad played at Nebraska and the CFL and has coached at Washington State, Iowa State, Nebraska and South Dakota State and Ohio. It is easy for me to see the family encouraging him to accept the most challenging opportunity presented. Scott Frost, the current OC at Oregon was a small town Nebraska player who took his first scholarship at Stanford to play for Bill Walsh then returned to Nebraska when Walsh selected another QB over him. Back at Nebraska he was a Unitas Award finalist and was 24-2 as a starter. When he went to Stanford it was the bigger challenge, it did not work out, but, I doubt Scott Frost has any regrets. How can anyone have a problem with a young man challenging himself to his utmost.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 1:03 AM
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Some Bobcats are really representing themselves and Bobcat Nation poorly in this thread.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 2:56 AM
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"Never see's the field"...seriously you would have to be the 4th blind mouse to think this kid "will never see the field at OSU". Have you ever even actually watched film no really watched film as in reading coverages,check downs and formations much less saw the kids arm? Get real Burrow is the real deal and he has a shot at being very very good. Go somewhere and watch Braxton and Terrells High School throws and tell me who is a better pocket passer in HS I think they saw the field. <Joey
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Posted: 5/28/2014 3:40 AM
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James could've been an absolute icon.  Anyone could ride Wade's coattails to a title in Miami, be just another fine but moneymefirst player.

Same here missed opportunity.










 
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Posted: 5/28/2014 6:47 AM
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Bobcatzblitz wrote:expand_more
"Never see's the field"...seriously you would have to be the 4th blind mouse to think this kid "will never see the field at OSU". Have you ever even actually watched film no really watched film as in reading coverages,check downs and formations much less saw the kids arm? Get real Burrow is the real deal and he has a shot at being very very good. Go somewhere and watch Braxton and Terrells High School throws and tell me who is a better pocket passer in HS I think they saw the field. <Joey

I'd agree with you, he is one of the top QB's in the Midwest, and after the Elite 11, he will do even better.
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My nephew, a WR, turned down a full ride to Toledo for the chance of making it as a walk-on at OSU. His dream was to run out of the tunnel at the Shoe. He went thru walk-on tryouts - and was one of two that year to make the team. He stayed with the team all 4 years, saw just a little playing time, caught a couple passes and cherishes the memories.

Many family members were surprised by his choice, but it was HIS choice to make.
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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
James could've been an absolute icon.  Anyone could ride Wade's coattails to a title in Miami, be just another fine but moneymefirst player.

Same here missed opportunity.


Too bad Lebron took less money to go to Miami.

Too bad Burrow still has a shot to be an icon.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 8:32 AM
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Bobcatzblitz wrote:expand_more
LOL Cleve Bryant and Big Ben how many times are those 2 examples going to be the standard bearers of "sure it happens all the time".....

If you're going to refer to my post, please quote me correctly. I didn't say "It happens all the time".  I said "It isn't impossible, nor did it hurt either of those player's careers", which is something very different.

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Some Bobcats are really representing themselves and Bobcat Nation poorly in this thread.

I would agree if there were any posts  hoping he fails, or hoping he gets injured, but there aren't. They are just people that wish he had made some other choice, which I think is perfectly understandable.

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No "If's" about it the inferiority complex runs rampant on this site. Many Buckeye fans also have one, it only seems worse because there are many more of them .

I would consider posts complaining about Marshall moving to CUSA or Temple moving to the AAC to be possibly an inferiority complex. The dislike for OSU is entirely different. When someone sues you to try to take away your right to use your own name, I think disliking them is not surprising. That might wear off in time, but it is still pretty fresh in many people's minds.
Last Edited: 5/28/2014 8:34:14 AM by L.C.
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The young man has every right to make the choice that best suits his personal goals.  If he thinks that's OSU, so be it.  I hope he has a good career there.
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What a bummer.  I am not from Athens and do not know Joey personally, so I can't get on board with the "good for him" talk, but certainly understand those who feel that way.  

We are not naive, we realize we will almost never get a recruit that holds an offer from OSU.  But this situation is different.  He grew up here, and his Dad coaches here.  I get that it is hard to turn down 1 of the top 5 football programs in the country, but the idea of shying away from that program to ensure playing early and often is not completely foreign or unreasonable when you weigh the other factors.

And it is entirely possible he doesn't see much of the field.  There have been even higher rated OSU QB recruits than Burrow to never get a full chance, all it takes is adding a 5 star QB recruit to the class.  It also is entirely possible Joey looks to transfer to Ohio if that happens, and if his Dad still has his job at Ohio.

Put it this way...I know I've never been and never will be in this situation, but I can confidently say there is no question I would follow my Dad and my local university as long as they were D1.  I would feel more comfortable with the virtual guarantee of 4 years of playing time, and confident my talent would be recognized by the pros just as well, just as countless other non-BCS players have been in the past.

But to each their own.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 8:51 AM
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What a bummer.  I am not from Athens and do not know Joey personally, so I can't get on board with the "good for him" talk, but certainly understand those who feel that way.  

We are not naive, we realize we will almost never get a recruit that holds an offer from OSU.  But this situation is different.  He grew up here, and his Dad coaches here.  I get that it is hard to turn down 1 of the top 5 football programs in the country, but the idea of shying away from that program to ensure playing early and often is not completely foreign or unreasonable when you weigh the other factors.

And it is entirely possible he doesn't see much of the field.  There have been even higher rated OSU QB recruits than Burrow to never get a full chance, all it takes is adding a 5 star QB recruit to the class.  It also is entirely possible Joey looks to transfer to Ohio if that happens, and if his Dad still has his job at Ohio.

Put it this way...I know I've never been and never will be in this situation, but I can confidently say there is no question I would follow my Dad and my local university as long as they were D1.  I would feel more comfortable with the virtual guarantee of 4 years of playing time, and confident my talent would be recognized by the pros just as well, just as countless other non-BCS players have been in the past.

But to each their own.

We've discussed over the last few years the recurit rankings.  If Joey played at a Moeller, St. X, Canton McKinley, he'd be a 5 Star QB without a doubt.  Kids from lesser programs have to earn every star they receive, there are no bonus stars to area guys.  I've seen Swick, McMillen and several others who could not make it, he possess more skill and athleticism than any of them.

 
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No "If's" about it the inferiority complex runs rampant on this site. Many Buckeye fans also have one, it only seems worse because there are many more of them .

I would consider posts complaining about Marshall moving to CUSA or Temple moving to the AAC to be possibly an inferiority complex. The dislike for OSU is entirely different. When someone sues you to try to take away your right to use your own name, I think disliking them is not surprising. That might wear off in time, but it is still pretty fresh in many people's minds.

I have to disagree with you on this one, LC. The hatred for OSU on this web site goes way beyond the naming issue. That issue may have made matters worse, but in my opinion, it has served mostly as a relatively recent, tangible excuse for hating OSU. Take that issue away, and the same folks would continue hating OSU.

I think the hatred is more about the legions of OSU fans and the treatment of the Buckeyes as some sort of quasi-professional team. 

To some degree, it's probably natural. I know I don't like Notre Dame or the Dallas Cowboys or the Pittsburgh Steelers precisely because "everyone" likes them. 







 
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