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Posted: 9/10/2014 12:37 PM
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Ohio Injury List (status is my interpretation based upon media reports):
RB Papi White - Out (knee)
S Josh Kristoff - Questionable (hamstring)
OL Nick Gibbons - Questionable (ankle) CB Brett Layton - Questionable (knee)
TE Brennan Boland - Questionable
LB Ben Russell - Out (shoulder)
OL Seth Everhart - Out (appendicitis)
OL Durrell Wood - Out for season (shoulder)
DT Tony Stephens - Out for season (knee)

Thats a huge injury list. How many played in the UK game?

The only one of the above that has played in any games this year is White, who played perhaps 10 plays against Kent State.

Kristoff (S) and Russell (MLB) are returning starters, and were among the leading tacklers last year. Wood and Gibbons were the #1 and #2 RG, respectively, and Everhart is the #2 LG, and probably could have played RG had he been healthy. As a result, RG is being played by a true Freshman, Preuhs, and his backup is another true Freshman, McCray.

The injury list is actually shorter than a week ago as a couple players that missed the Kent State game were able to play against Kentucky.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 2:50 PM
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If you're a stupd cow fan then three is an enormous number which about exhausts the limit of your ability to conceive.
That's good for all of us.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 4:42 PM
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins.
The top 10 list is just for the Solich era, 2005-present, which for Marshall would be the CUSA era. Marshall has 3 bowl wins- Ohio, FIU and Maryland, and 1 other win against a P5, Lville during that time. Take the bowl win against Ohio out and you've got 3 wins. You want us to believe that Marshall, a team that has had just 3 winning seasons in the last 9 years, has had 7 other wins bigger than one of your bowl wins?

I would love to see this top 10 list of yours.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 4:50 PM
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins. This season jt will, you and akron are the 2 hardest OOC games and we have the "ohio monkey on the back" like you dod kent state. We

Ohio wpuld like nothing more but to end marshalls undefeated run.
What undefeated run? You won your last game last year but lost the game before that. So, that's three in a row. Three. T h r e e. One plus one plus one.

Oh. I get it. If you're a stupd cow fan then three is an enormous number which about exhausts the limit of your ability to conceive.



The best part about stupd cow is we don't have to make this stuff up because they do it themselves.

Many publications have predicted an undefeated season for MU so I'd say that's what he's talking about.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 5:01 PM
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins.
The top 10 list is just for the Solich era, 2005-present, which for Marshall would be the CUSA era. Marshall has 3 bowl wins- Ohio, FIU and Maryland, and 1 other win against a P5, Lville during that time. Take the bowl win against Ohio out and you've got 3 wins. You want us to believe that Marshall, a team that has had just 3 winning seasons in the last 9 years, has had 7 other wins bigger than one of your bowl wins?

I would love to see this top 10 list of yours.
1. Xavier 1971
2. #24 BYU to cap the undefeated top 10 1999 season
3. #6 Kansas State
4. Clemson
5. South Carolina
6. Youngstown State for national title. Merricks kick
7. Louisville (multiple times but bowl games come to mind and 2011 vs bridgewater)
8. ECU GMAC bowl
9. Maryland
10. Any number of MAC title games here on. But id go with 1999 WMU championship win at last second.

Ohio isnt close to making our top 10... sorry
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Posted: 9/10/2014 5:07 PM
UCLA's 88-game streak. The Miami Dolphins' run to Super Bowl glory. The Heat's incredible 27-game jaunt. And Marshall's two-game undefeated run.

Breathtaking, really. Have they printed up T-shirts with the sleeves cut off yet to celebrate?
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Posted: 9/10/2014 5:07 PM
2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
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Posted: 9/10/2014 9:41 PM
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins.
The top 10 list is just for the Solich era, 2005-present, which for Marshall would be the CUSA era. Marshall has 3 bowl wins- Ohio, FIU and Maryland, and 1 other win against a P5, Lville during that time. Take the bowl win against Ohio out and you've got 3 wins. You want us to believe that Marshall, a team that has had just 3 winning seasons in the last 9 years, has had 7 other wins bigger than one of your bowl wins?

I would love to see this top 10 list of yours.
1. Xavier 1971
2. #24 BYU to cap the undefeated top 10 1999 season
3. #6 Kansas State
4. Clemson
5. South Carolina
6. Youngstown State for national title. Merricks kick
7. Louisville (multiple times but bowl games come to mind and 2011 vs bridgewater)
8. ECU GMAC bowl
9. Maryland
10. Any number of MAC title games here on. But id go with 1999 WMU championship win at last second.

Ohio isnt close to making our top 10... sorry
reading comprehension obviously not a strong suit.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 10:23 PM
goherd25 wrote:expand_more
2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
The Solich era Top 10 was the result of voting by fans. Your Marshall 2005 to present Top 10 is yours alone. If Marshall fans were voting, I wonder what their Top 10 would look like. I wonder for example if Marshall's 24-23 2010 win over Ohio might make the list. As I said, just wondering.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 9:45 AM
Marshall's top shameful losses...
1. Ohio
2. Ohio
3. Ohio
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Posted: 9/11/2014 9:55 AM
goherd25 wrote:expand_more
2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
Just curious as to why 2011 Louisville was such a big win? That team went 7-6, lost to FIU (finished 8-5), lost to UNC (finished 7-6), lost to Marshall (7-6), lost to Cincinnati (10-3), lost to Pitt (6-7) and lost to NC State in the Belk Bowl (8-5). They were only in Charlie Strong's 2nd year and Teddy Bridgewater was a freshman. That's a significant win for you guys? BTW, Louisville went 7-6 in 2010 too, so it's not like this was some team on the rise just yet. 2012 was the year they broke through. If Marshall fans think that's a big win, then so be it. I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 10:13 AM
Turney13 wrote:expand_more
Marshall's top shameful losses...
1. Ohio
2. Ohio
3. Ohio
Unacceptable losses.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:07 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
Just curious as to why 2011 Louisville was such a big win? That team went 7-6, lost to FIU (finished 8-5), lost to UNC (finished 7-6), lost to Marshall (7-6), lost to Cincinnati (10-3), lost to Pitt (6-7) and lost to NC State in the Belk Bowl (8-5). They were only in Charlie Strong's 2nd year and Teddy Bridgewater was a freshman. That's a significant win for you guys? BTW, Louisville went 7-6 in 2010 too, so it's not like this was some team on the rise just yet. 2012 was the year they broke through. If Marshall fans think that's a big win, then so be it. I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
Seriously, we're going to call them out on this? I hate stupid cow as much as the next guy, but we all think Illinois (2-10) in 2006 was a significant win. It's significant to us, even if to no one else. I don't think we can question Louisville on their list.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:30 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
Just curious as to why 2011 Louisville was such a big win? That team went 7-6, lost to FIU (finished 8-5), lost to UNC (finished 7-6), lost to Marshall (7-6), lost to Cincinnati (10-3), lost to Pitt (6-7) and lost to NC State in the Belk Bowl (8-5). They were only in Charlie Strong's 2nd year and Teddy Bridgewater was a freshman. That's a significant win for you guys? BTW, Louisville went 7-6 in 2010 too, so it's not like this was some team on the rise just yet. 2012 was the year they broke through. If Marshall fans think that's a big win, then so be it. I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
Seriously, we're going to call them out on this? I hate stupid cow as much as the next guy, but we all think Illinois (2-10) in 2006 was a significant win. It's significant to us, even if to no one else. I don't think we can question Louisville on their list.
Not necessarily calling them out, just wondering why that's big to them. It doesn't look like one on paper but maybe there's something to it.

You're right, some of Ohio's best wins are against Illinois, Pitt and Penn State when each were not so great. Considering Ohio's football history, I don't think it's fair to compare the significance of each program's wins at all. I'm just curious to see where Marshall fans are coming up with their wins and why.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:59 AM
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You're right, some of Ohio's best wins are against Illinois, Pitt and Penn State when each were not so great. Considering Ohio's football history, I don't think it's fair to compare the significance of each program's wins at all. I'm just curious to see where Marshall fans are coming up with their wins and why.
Eh, that Penn State team finished 8-4, 6-2 in the B1G including a win over #24 Northwestern. Other than us, their other losses were to #9 osu and #18 Nebraska, plus a 1 point loss to Virginia where their kicker missed 4 field goals. Yes they were dealing with as much off-the-field drama as any team in college football in the last 30 years (maybe ever) but that was a pretty good team we beat.

But yes, Illinois was bad and Pitt was middling-to-bad...although Pitt had been ranked going into the season.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 7:23 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
Just curious as to why 2011 Louisville was such a big win? That team went 7-6, lost to FIU (finished 8-5), lost to UNC (finished 7-6), lost to Marshall (7-6), lost to Cincinnati (10-3), lost to Pitt (6-7) and lost to NC State in the Belk Bowl (8-5). They were only in Charlie Strong's 2nd year and Teddy Bridgewater was a freshman. That's a significant win for you guys? BTW, Louisville went 7-6 in 2010 too, so it's not like this was some team on the rise just yet. 2012 was the year they broke through. If Marshall fans think that's a big win, then so be it. I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
Seriously, we're going to call them out on this? I hate stupid cow as much as the next guy, but we all think Illinois (2-10) in 2006 was a significant win. It's significant to us, even if to no one else. I don't think we can question Louisville on their list.
Not necessarily calling them out, just wondering why that's big to them. It doesn't look like one on paper but maybe there's something to it.

You're right, some of Ohio's best wins are against Illinois, Pitt and Penn State when each were not so great. Considering Ohio's football history, I don't think it's fair to compare the significance of each program's wins at all. I'm just curious to see where Marshall fans are coming up with their wins and why.
We beat Louisville a lot. But a p5 win is a p5 win. A win for a young marshall team on the road against louisville is a big win.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 10:32 PM
How about the Bobcats conclude this Epic winning streak that the herd has going right now?
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:58 PM
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins. This season jt will, you and akron are the 2 hardest OOC games and we have the "ohio monkey on the back" like you dod kent state. We

Ohio wpuld like nothing more but to end marshalls undefeated run.
What undefeated run? You won your last game last year but lost the game before that. So, that's three in a row. Three. T h r e e. One plus one plus one.

Oh. I get it. If you're a stupd cow fan then three is an enormous number which about exhausts the limit of your ability to conceive.



The best part about stupd cow is we don't have to make this stuff up because they do it themselves.

Many publications have predicted an undefeated season for MU so I'd say that's what he's talking about.
They live in a bubble in athens. They have no clue so i just ignore the idiotic comments.
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Posted: 9/12/2014 12:02 AM
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How about the Bobcats conclude this Epic winning streak that the herd has going right now?
First, we have been picked to go undefeated and to the access bowl by many. Thats what was meant. Second, we are on a 9 game home winning streak i believe it is. Maybe 10.
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Posted: 9/12/2014 1:02 AM
Look, root for your little, inconsequential team if you want. Generally, people should root for their school, their team. Except stupd cow--sick, sick.

That said, you really ought to be somewhat objective about your team. And OUrs. No one expects perfect objectivity--merely a reasonable, balance approach.

Which is not exemplified by idiots who think predictions that your team will go undefeated amount to a winning streak, or mo-rons who take selective stats (wins at home...which someone, I think, identified as not involving much in the way of wins over good teams).

stupd cow should be significantly favored over O H I O. But 20 points is a good bit too much. We've seen our defense and it ain't likely to give up 45 points. This is the best defense that Solich has had.

And, OHIO's offense is young (played 3 true frosh on O-line) and almost all new guys (played zero or very few games) at qb, rb, and receivers. But an offense with some talent. An offense that, barring injuries, will get markedly better as the season goes.

This won't be an easy game for stupd cow.
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Posted: 9/12/2014 7:26 AM
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stupd cow should be significantly favored over O H I O. But 20 points is a good bit too much. We've seen our defense and it ain't likely to give up 45 points. This is the best defense that Solich has had.

And, OHIO's offense is young (played 3 true frosh on O-line) and almost all new guys (played zero or very few games) at qb, rb, and receivers. But an offense with some talent. An offense that, barring injuries, will get markedly better as the season goes.
In a turnover free game, I agree our defense won't give up 45, but I'm not sure our offense can put up 20...at this point.

This game will most likely come down to turnovers (it has for the last several years). This year our Bobcats have turned the ball over 5 times and has not force a turnover. My green glasses think we are due for a turnaround.

My prediction:

Turnover margin = >+2 - OHIO wins
Turnover margin = +2 - OHIO wins in close game
Turnover margin = +1 - Marshall wins in close game
Turnover margin = EVEN - Marshall wins but doesn't cover spread
Turnover margin = - 1 - Marshall covers spread
Turnover margin = -2 - UGLY
Turnover margin = > (or is it <) -2 - Fans on this website will indicate the season is lost and start focusing on next year
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Posted: 9/12/2014 9:37 AM
We're playing a team that gave up 27 points to a Fiami team that could only manage 10 the next week vs Eastern Kentucky. 1AA EASTERN KENTUCKY!!!!! We execute and don't turn the ball over we should easily get 35. We get 35, we win. Go Bobcats!!
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Posted: 9/12/2014 9:56 AM
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We're playing a team that gave up 27 points to a Fiami team that could only manage 10 the next week vs Eastern Kentucky. 1AA EASTERN KENTUCKY!!!!! We execute and don't turn the ball over we should easily get 35. We get 35, we win. Go Bobcats!!
$#!&! I didnt know that Ohio won thus game already based off of the miami game alone. I mean its amazing the bobcats will be able to score 35 when they didnt even score more then that in the last two games...

Also ohio does have the chance to ruin our winning streak and undefeated season since we ARE undefeated and on a winning streak. If ohio was 2-0 then you would consider yourself undefeated, correct?

I hope for a injury free and great game. I will root for ohio after this week.
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[QUOTE=Pataskala]

Also ohio does have the chance to ruin our winning streak and undefeated season since we ARE undefeated and on a winning streak. If ohio was 2-0 then you would consider yourself undefeated, correct?
Undefeated, yes. But I'd be hesitant to claim any sort or a streak.
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[QUOTE=Pataskala]

Also ohio does have the chance to ruin our winning streak and undefeated season since we ARE undefeated and on a winning streak. If ohio was 2-0 then you would consider yourself undefeated, correct?
Undefeated, yes. But I'd be hesitant to claim any sort or a streak.
Since there is no definition of a winning streak, its all subjective. I believe anything over 2 is a winning streak so yes we are on a 3 game winning streak, a 9 game home winning streak and ohio has a 3 game streak vs marshall. Its pointless to argue what is or what isn't something that has never been defined
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