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Posted: 9/24/2014 8:55 PM
As far as "Banning Books" goes - I sure wish we had the interwebs when I was a student....

"Books? We don't need no friggin' books".......(especially the WAY overpriced monopoly/cartel/no choice but have to buy it there versions)
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Posted: 9/24/2014 10:31 PM
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Follett's Bookstore has always been corporate, and they've also always had a much higher standard of customer service than College or the now defunct Specialty (which was also a corporate store - Owned by Nebraska Book Company).
Hi, Follett's!
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Posted: 9/25/2014 12:15 AM
The book "Athens County: The Second Century,1905-2005" An overview of Court Street in the early 1940s. Most of the stores were locally owned .......Harry Beckley of Beckley Clothes for Men, Charley Cornwell of Cornwell's Jewelry, Bill Logan of Logan's book store. Etc.

(Book published by Garry E.Hunter 2005)
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Posted: 9/25/2014 12:28 AM
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Who cares about what an off-campus store displays in their windows? What really needs to be done is to find a way to stop people from wearing ohio state gear to Bobcats games.

p.s. The bookstore has always been owned by Follett, even when it was called Logan's.
Not true.

After Follett bought the book store for a number of years they kept the "Logan's name." Then after awhile they dropped the name. Before that it was a locally owned store just like the College Book Store.
FYI, and feel free to research it... Logan's University Bookstore opened on 8/1/1952 as one of the first Follett locations in Ohio. The name Logan's was chosen based on the regional familiarity of the name at the time. This was to draw customers into the store.

Follett's Bookstore has always been corporate, and they've also always had a much higher standard of customer service than College or the now defunct Specialty (which was also a corporate store - Owned by Nebraska Book Company).

Logan's and Follett's have always been one in the same. The name change came with a drive for brand recognition by Follett corporate in the 1990s. Though I have no love for Miami University, I will mention that a similar change occurred at the same time with their bookstore. The name changed from "Miami Co-op Bookstore" to "Follett's Miami Co-op Bookstore."

The name "Logan's Bookstore" is still owned by Follett, and can be seen as an alternate name on the Follett's Bookstore BBB page.
I like how you point out, without a trace of self-awareness, that Follett's decided to call their Athens store "Logan's" as a way to trick the locals into thinking it was a locally owned store and not a corporate chain.

Posting merchandise of a rival school in a store window mere feet from college green is not a good business decision,imo. I understand from a corporate standpoint that the data analysis of the demographics of the blah, blah, blah, justifies it but you've also got to understand your place in the community. Students, locals and alums buy Ohio branded merchandise because they are proud of their association with Ohio University, it helps when the seller of the merchandise shows pride in Ohio University too.

With that being said, I won't be boycotting Follett's. The truth is that in the 20+ years that I have been purchasing OHIO branded merchandise (I have a house full of it) I've only purchased a couple of items from Follett's for no other reason than I've never found their selection to be very good. Maybe if they spent less time worrying about Buckeyes fans and more time focused on what Bobcat fans want that would change. If so I'll happily spend my money there too.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:39 AM
welcome Bobcatgirl. Good to see a new face and enjoyed your offering.

Not sure if the Logan name was taken from someone who had been in the book biz based on other posts or if Follets had just chosen not to use Follets. If it was a historical name did they purchase the store or the rights to the name to carry forward?

Boycott seems to be a knee jerk reaction. How about a note on a FB page, talk with a manager, viral tweet with @FOllet's in the text etc etc? As a society we seem to have forgot the art and socially preferable method of actually talking. Let's just dive in with a boycott seems to the protest of choice.

I am with pErimeter on the subject. The other half asked last week..."why are we going in here, in 6 years you have only bought a couple of things yet we keep going in and looking"?

I have "stuff" from COllege, Universitees,The House, Wally WOrld, Dunhams and the now defunct store acrss from the DIner. Not much from Follets due to the selection. I recently vowed to give stuff to Tommy to sign and give away at his Shooting Camps as prizes. At 6 bucks it was easy to buy shirts and give them to fans at away games and I have been known to reach in a bag and offer a shirt to someone on the street or College green in tO$U gear with a lament that "I am so sorry you did not have time or money to get your laundry done...have a shirt on me". They are cheap...spread the word. Still got plastic totes full of gear. Follet's sadly has never had much that appealed to me save for one pretty spectacular Basketball shirt a few years back.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 9:31 AM
Fooled me too. Still, they seem to be less friendly than they were in the early '70s. As I recall, their Ohio stuff took up more than half the upper floor. Last time I was there it was about a third. They've always been higher priced than College, which I think is one reason why they took more damage during the '70 riot than College did. They seemed to take it all in stride, though -- their slogan as we came back that fall was "Just a stone's throw from College Green."
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Posted: 9/25/2014 10:09 AM
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Who cares about what an off-campus store displays in their windows? What really needs to be done is to find a way to stop people from wearing ohio state gear to Bobcats games.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 10:49 AM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Fooled me too. Still, they seem to be less friendly than they were in the early '70s. As I recall, their Ohio stuff took up more than half the upper floor. Last time I was there it was about a third. They've always been higher priced than College, which I think is one reason why they took more damage during the '70 riot than College did. They seemed to take it all in stride, though -- their slogan as we came back that fall was "Just a stone's throw from College Green."
Interesting. I always thought "Logans" meant "local", too. Could it be that when it came time to attack something in the 70's, Logan's simply symbolized the town vs. gown sentiment of the day? Bad call on the name thingie, Follett's.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 10:57 AM
During my years - 1996-2000 - as president of the Akron-Canton Alumni Chapter, Alumni Relations had a beneficial arrangement with Follett's. When visiting Athens, I would walk into the store, pick out logo'd apparel, present my ID and get DEEP discounts on my purchases which I used as prizes for drawings at alumni events.

Still, like many others, I do most of my personal Ohio shopping at College Book which has a far larger selection. Last Saturday at College Book I bought a handsome green, long-sleeve shirt with button down collar and a smallish OHIO logo on the left breast. It was on sale for $29.99.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 11:44 AM
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I posted to their Facebook page and got a quick response!

Follett's University Bookstore: Good question, OUcats82. The display includes Ohio State, Michigan, Pittsburgh Steelers, Cleveland Browns, Cincinnati Bengals and of course the Bobcats. It is a football display, and we decided to include all the teams that have a large fanbase in this area. As the largest general book store in Athens, we try to accommodate everyone's tastes. We also never censor our book selection, even if we're BOBCAT all the way.
Fallout's certainly has the right to run their business any way that they see fit. Others may think it's bad business practice and doublespeak garbage for them to claim to be 'BOBCAT all the way' while featuring such as the jr. institution in columbus and while making OHIO just one among many.

BillyCat--You do an impressive job of reading things that aren't there and challenging the right of people to respond while failing to meet reasonable arguments made.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 12:45 PM
So, here's the question, will you ever see buckeye bookstore have OHIO stuff in their display? The buckeye s**t comes down or they have zero chance at any of my money.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 1:12 PM
If the display is in fact a regional display I don't see a problem with it. At first I got the idea it was show casing Ohio State but that does not appear to be the case. .. Someone local needs to go take a picture of it and post it.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 1:32 PM
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So, here's the question, will you ever see buckeye bookstore have OHIO stuff in their display? The buckeye s**t comes down or they have zero chance at any of my money.
Disclaimer: I am not advocating anything, just honestly answering the question.

While in the River Valley Mall in Lancaster, I came across one of those official Buckeye stores. When I looked inside (because there was no way I was going in!) right in the front of the store was green Bobcat gear!

Edit: The Lancaster store of course is not the official bookstore of OSU either.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 2:10 PM
To me, this is the interesting part of this thread:

bobcatgirl1982 wrote:expand_more
...FYI, and feel free to research it... Logan's University Bookstore opened on 8/1/1952 as one of the first Follett locations in Ohio. The name Logan's was chosen based on the regional familiarity of the name at the time. This was to draw customers into the store....
JB wrote:expand_more
The book "Athens County: The Second Century,1905-2005" An overview of Court Street in the early 1940s. Most of the stores were locally owned ........... Bill Logan of Logan's book store. Etc.

(Book published by Garry E.Hunter 2005)

So, was there actually a Bill Logan? Was the Logan's Book store of the 40's related to the Logan's bookstore that opened in 1952?
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Posted: 9/25/2014 3:47 PM
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Who cares about what an off-campus store displays in their windows? What really needs to be done is to find a way to stop people from wearing ohio state gear to Bobcats games.
+3
you don't see the connection between the two?

plus, Follett's is "off-campus" in name only. It's like saying the burrito buggy is off campus.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 5:34 PM
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Who cares about what an off-campus store displays in their windows? What really needs to be done is to find a way to stop people from wearing ohio state gear to Bobcats games.
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you don't see the connection between the two?

plus, Follett's is "off-campus" in name only. It's like saying the burrito buggy is off campus.
I have yet to see a person wear an osu book to any bobcat sporting event.

You are absolutely correct that Follett's and the Burrito Buggy are "off-campus" in the same way. Neither are official businesses of the university. It would be pretty ridiculous if the university tried to dictate what they could have on their menu.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 5:58 PM
Venturestein wrote:expand_more
Who cares about what an off-campus store displays in their windows? What really needs to be done is to find a way to stop people from wearing ohio state gear to Bobcats games.
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you don't see the connection between the two?

plus, Follett's is "off-campus" in name only. It's like saying the burrito buggy is off campus.
I have yet to see a person wear an osu book to any bobcat sporting event.

You are absolutely correct that Follett's and the Burrito Buggy are "off-campus" in the same way. Neither are official businesses of the university. It would be pretty ridiculous if the university tried to dictate what they could have on their menu.
Agreed, but given half an opportunity, Mike Bloomberg or the Department of Health & Human Services might give it a try.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 6:52 PM
Venturestein wrote:expand_more
Who cares about what an off-campus store displays in their windows? What really needs to be done is to find a way to stop people from wearing ohio state gear to Bobcats games.
+3
you don't see the connection between the two?

plus, Follett's is "off-campus" in name only. It's like saying the burrito buggy is off campus.
I have yet to see a person wear an osu book to any bobcat sporting event.

You are absolutely correct that Follett's and the Burrito Buggy are "off-campus" in the same way. Neither are official businesses of the university. It would be pretty ridiculous if the university tried to dictate what they could have on their menu.
who said anything about the university dictating anything? My point is one of geography. Being on the corner of Union and Court is not off campus the way Krogers or Walmart is off campus.

If you don't see the correlation between OU students wearing OSU apparel and the advertising of OSU merchandise by a business whose location and inventory are purposefully chosen to cater to OU students then I don't know what to tell you.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:32 PM
I hate to hear about the Columbus A&M book as much as anyone, but I'll say one thing about Follett's. I love my Adidas-branded "The Real O-H-I-O" t-shirt so much I decided someone in Athens should get them back in stock so I could buy a couple more (I never knew who sold them originally; I got mine on eBay) or offer the same type of design on a new shirt. Through Facebook I got in touch with Follett's, College Bookstore, UniversiTees, and Uptown Dog. I got no response from Uptown Dog. Both UniversiTees and College Bookstore simply said "We don't carry Adidas products." Follett's informed me the shirt was only offered once (I think when Ohio went to the Sweet Sixteen) but also said they liked my idea and proceeded to make a new shirt with the same text. Shortly thereafter they let me know the shirt was their new best seller. This was over a year ago, and I believe the shirt is still available there. I wasn't crazy about their design versus the Adidas shirt, but I give them credit for doing it. (Now they just need to put that same text, in a great design, on some more stuff, e.g. window clings and coffee mugs.)
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Posted: 9/25/2014 9:04 PM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
Who cares about what an off-campus store displays in their windows? What really needs to be done is to find a way to stop people from wearing ohio state gear to Bobcats games.
+3
you don't see the connection between the two?

plus, Follett's is "off-campus" in name only. It's like saying the burrito buggy is off campus.
I have yet to see a person wear an osu book to any bobcat sporting event.

You are absolutely correct that Follett's and the Burrito Buggy are "off-campus" in the same way. Neither are official businesses of the university. It would be pretty ridiculous if the university tried to dictate what they could have on their menu.
who said anything about the university dictating anything? My point is one of geography. Being on the corner of Union and Court is not off campus the way Krogers or Walmart is off campus.

If you don't see the correlation between OU students wearing OSU apparel and the advertising of OSU merchandise by a business whose location and inventory are purposefully chosen to cater to OU students then I don't know what to tell you.
Krogers is actually on campus, as that is University owned property.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 10:48 PM
You know - Much Ado About Nothing. It's hard to make a living in Athens - especially downtown. Logan's, Follet's - whatever, has it's place. We don't ban books in Athens - do we? If displaying OSU items in their window is getting them business - so be it. If it hurts their business - so be it. Question? Would you rather have an empty hole on that corner on Court and Union? It could happen.Does anyone remember Woolworth's? It sat empty for many many years with boards in front of it. Reap what you sow. It's your town now - I'd just love to see my adopted home town thrive and not eat itself. Just my thoughts.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 10:52 PM
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Krogers is actually on campus, as that is University owned property.
Huh? The University also owns Dysart Woods in Belmont County. Does that make it part of campus?

See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysart_Woods
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Posted: 9/25/2014 11:31 PM
Well seeing as how the East State Street was an active part of the University, I'd say much more so than Belmont Co. But nice try!
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Posted: 9/25/2014 11:41 PM
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Well seeing as how the East State Street was an active part of the University, I'd say much more so than Belmont Co. But nice try!
It was a University-owned airport. Is the new airport in Albany part of campus? I guess you have a different definition of campus than I do.
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Posted: 9/26/2014 3:18 AM
Garry Hunter. What an obscure, dated reference.
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