So, if you can edit this down to those who will be RS Fr. next season, who in that group might make the two deep?


4 White, Papi WR 5-9/166 FR Seminole, Okla./Seminole
76 Vinegar, Clem OL FR Trotwood, Ohio/Trotwood-Madison
55 Stephens, Tony DL FR Fairfield, Ohio/Fairfield
88 Schnell, Spencer WR 5-9/175 FR Elkhart, Ind./Elkhart Central
60 Pauley, Austin OL 6-5/320 FR Chandler, Ariz./Perry
45 Myers, Seth LB 6-3/230 FR Sunbury, Ohio/Fork Union Military Academy
9 Meyer, Andrew WR 6-0/185 FR Canal Winchester, Ohio/Pickerington Central
56 Langenkamp, Stephen OL 6-2/285 FR Liberty Township, Ohio/Moeller
88 Kuhar, Kyle DL 6-5/275 FR Avon Lake, Ohio/Avon Lake
21 Irons, Maleek RB 6-0/211 FR Chilliwack, BC/WJ Mouat Secondary
14 Gunnels, Cameron CB 6-0/170 FR Cincinnati, Ohio/Mason
59 Frueauf, Chalmer DE 6-3/235 FR Cincinnati, Ohio/Moeller
4 Fox, Jalen CB 5-11/176 FR Cincinnati, Ohio/Wyoming
72 Dudziak, Brennan OL 6-5/250 FR Pickerington, Ohio/Pickerington Central
10 Duckworth, Joey QB 6-3/215 FR Louisville, Ohio/Louisville
20 DiCillo, Bryan LB 6-2/212 FR Broadview Heights, Ohio/Walsh Jesuit
2 Brunson, Curtis CB 5-10/160 FR Franklin, Mich./Farmington
83 Brown, Connor TE 6-6/245 FR Miamisburg, Ohio/Miamisburg
6 Brentley, Julian CB FR West Hills, Calif./Chaminade
97 Berger, Kent DL 6-4/249 FR Mentor, Ohio/Mentor

That's a pretty easy question to answer. It is because Ohio has won games more with teamwork than with individual talent. Their early recruiting classes were generally lower middle of the MAC. Slowly it is improving, and I'd say they are now top third of the MAC. As a result, I'd say that we should see more All-Mac players in the years ahead.

Here's a link to the old Vandelay recruiting rankings:
http://www.vandelaysports.com/football/recruit/default.html
2002 #6
2003 #10
2004 #8
2005 #10
2006 #6
2007 #8
2008 #7
2009 #11
2010 #12
2011 none
2012 #10
2013 #9
2014 #3
2015 no ratings

Here are the scout.com rankings:
http://ohio.scout.com/a.z?s=354&p=9&c=14&view=2&yr=2002
2002 internal server error
2003 #4 (#87)
2004 #4 (#88)
2005 #4 (#91)
2006 #8 (#103)
2007 #9 (#110)
2008 #9 (#105)
2009 #6 (#97)
2010 #12 (#118)
2011 #3 (#80)
2012 #10 (#103)
2013 #9 (#101)
2014 #2 (#77)
2015 #6 (#81)

Rivals rankings
http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recru...
2002 #11 (#117)
2003 #12 (#115)
2004 #8 (#140)
2005 #7 (#104)
2006 #2 (#72)
2007 #7 (#87)
2008 #7 (#91)
2009 #3 (#84)
2010 #12 (#120)
2011 #5 (#100)
2012 #2 (#80)
2013 #5 (#103)
2014 #7 (#103)
2015 #7 (#110)

ESPN rankings only typically cover the top 25 teams, so they aren't useful.
In recent years, 247Sports also has rankings:
http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/CompositeTeamRa...
2012 #6 (#95)
2013 #12 (#118)
2014 #6 (#104)
2015 #5 (#88)

Beginning in 2015, there is also a ranking done by "Rank by Offers"
http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2015fbteams/
2015 #1 (#78)

Averaging all these together, you get:
2002 8.5/117 Knorr/
2003 8.7/101 Knorr/
2004 6.7/114 Knorr/Germano
2005 7.0/98 Solich/Germano
2006 5.3/88 Solich/Germano
2007 8.0/99 Solich/Germano
2008 7.7/98 Solich/Germano
2009 6.7/91 Solich/Germano
2010 12.0/119 Solich/Isphording
2011 4.0/90 Solich/Haines
2012 7.0/93 Solich/Haines
2013 8.7/107 Solich/Haines
2014 4.5/95 Solich/Haines
2015 5.0/93 Solich/Haines

Based on my analysis in another thread I would say that the services underestimated the 2008 class and the 2013 class, and overestimated 2011 class.
http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa...

Edit - Updated to include 2015 class rankings

Good Idea--but I'm less interested in a Juco QB for 2015 than 2016. I'm OK with Vick (he's not great). However, if Duckworth can't pass Sprague or Windham on the depth chart in 2015, this program is in huge trouble for the 2016 season. Can someone explain why I shouldn't be concerned if this is the case.

Really hard to believe Basham and Sayles will be Juniors next season.

As will the transfer from Minn.

Hagen and Mayne Williams are both solid, too. Any of the three could earn PT and not surprise me. I believe Jeff Christian plays some Safety as well as Corner, so he's another that could get on the field as a Safety.

Don't forget that you also have two JUCO Offensive Linemen who will have to fit in somewhere, Anderson and Cooper.

Other changes that we know of to the chart above is that Davon Henry has left the team, and Carpenter has returned. The return of Carpenter will probably make the starters at Safety Jones and Carpenter, a duo that Paul will be more comfortable. It will also bump up the number of average starts considerably`from the 13 I listed above, probably to 16 (compared to 2014's 5). Thus next year's starters as of game 1 will have about the same experience as last year's team did in the final game.

I would agree that going from a very inexperienced and young offensive line last year to what is probably an average one this year, or a bit above average, will make a world of difference. I think that the offense will be back to being able to consistently make yards on the ground, and defenses once again will have to respect the Ohio run game. That, in turn, as OCF mentions, will open up the play action passes. It will also get the TEs back into the offense.

Connor Krizancic will be our 2016 starting quarterback. Mark it down. Watched him at Mentor. He is extremely poised, very intelligent, dad was his basketball coach, athletic enough to be a wideout at a Big 10 school and simply has moxie. Dude is going to make an impact.

It seems the roster guy has been busy again, and a number of walkons are no longer on the roster:
Austin Pauley - OL
Clem Vinegar - OL
Cameron Wilson - WR
Donald Lee Harrison - WR
Matt Lawrence - WR
Aaron Shaffer - LS

For every one that becomes all-MAC like Dak Notestine, many more come and go with little notice.

Also, one new name as appeared on the roster, Langston Provitt. Did he enroll early? He doesn't appear on the eDirectory, so it's not clear that he did.

It is not uncommon for walkons to vanish and then later reappear. That happens all the time. All I know is that he's not currently listed on the roster. It could be an error, or it could be a temporary change, or he could be gone.

I wonder if they will issue a depth chart after the Spring game? Usually they don't, but one must exist because it somehow gets leaked to places like CFN, so that's where we usually see the first real depth chart.

As recently as February he was tweeting he was healthy and good to go.

The 2014 two deep offense & defense depth charts for Ohio vs NIU reflected Ohio was much younger, 18 Jr/Sr for Ohio vs 26 for NIU. This is 41% vs 59%. If the above two deep pans out Ohio in 2015 would field 26 Jr/Sr, the same number NIU fielded last season. Much better. I am sure a more in depth review could be made scoring Srs 4 down to Fr 1, but I would leave that for anyone who loves numbers more than I.