That's a very good point. Although it was a close game, why not give a senior QB a series in his final game with Ohio? Especially given how foul the offensive series were (see my post in "Fitting Ending")

I think so, not many for Sprague either.

He beat NIU? No way. The bum you folks have been making him out to be could not have won a big game, Beating NIU would mean he is a MACC type QB. If he just beat NIU, damned straight he was OK as a pick to go in the bowl. Or you could go from stats, like you all are blowing up Mr. Irons with, pretty sure Sprague was the QB efficiency leader. Oh, and there really are only a few who show up every damned day on a crusade about how unworthy the coaches and players are. Every damned day, second verse same as the first.

Right you are. Sprague/Windham are a tandem capable of beating the MAC's best given a championship defense. Defense Wins Championships. Ohio is just about there. Give us Poling and Lowery all healed up next fall and watch out.

Pretty sure we had a 3rd QB playing as well. So your point is?

It does seem odd to me that we have not been able to recruit a top tier (MAC level speaking) QB in Frank's time here-even by accident. I would acknowledge TT in his first year as a starter as one of that level and even in his first few games in his junior year. While I want all of our players to be successful in life and wish them the best after graduation, there really has not been anyone that has been painful to lose to graduation. Maybe that's the system the coaches prefer but QB play is just as important as ever, if not more than ever before in present day.

I feel like just about every program less say EMU has had at least one QB in the past ten years who was at an NFL level in talent (even if that is more athleticism than say QB ability).

Some that come to mind:

-Keith Wenning, BSU
-Dan Lefevour, CMU
-Charlie Frye, Akron
-Julian Edelman, Kent
-Matt Johnson, BG

Is it our offense that keeps us from getting high end qbs? I just want someone who, when the game is on the line, wants to put the team on his back and will us to victory. I'm sure everyone on our roster now desires that, but do they really have what it takes both from a physical talent and mental fortitude standpoint?

Ohio will be bowl eligible next year because 1) our schedule and 2)it doesn't take much to be bowl eligible. Our QB situation, however, will keep Ohio from being a top-tier MAC team and reaching the MACC.

If you listen to bcat2, Ohio is always the next-game-away from being THE best team in the MAC with the best player at each position in the MAC. Next. . . . . game. . . . away.

Depends what you mean by "somewhat." He's an ardent fan, does that make him somewhat affiliated with the program? In that case you and I are also somewhat affiliated with the program. Why do you and Monroe keep insisting that he's Frank's nephew, grandson, etc., or on the payroll of OHIO? He's neither.

I like how you pick the 2014 game instead of the most recent example against BG in 2015 where he went 10/24 for 162 yds, 1 INT and 50 yards rushing in a 62-24 blowout. I thought the line was supposed to be better in 2015 than 2014 too?

Do you know what they call coaches that start players based on the fans likes? Answer: UNEMPLOYED

funny they didn't ask me or have a poll

No no no... you can't have it both ways Monroe. If injuries aren't an excuse for Ohio, then they can't be an excuse for NIU either.

I like Vick. He was loyal and represented our program well.

But

I always thought of him as a basketball player who was playing football. Not very physical and not a great throwing arm. Underthrew a lot of receivers in his career and lack accuracy.