This whole thread is like a bunch of ex girlfriends who have been dumped lol. Cromer caused all of this.

People can form their own opinions but people need to learn between facts and opinions.

Facts:
Albin was offered the HC job in July 2021 and signed the contract.
Albin was offered an extension/raise and signed it in March 2023 following the 2022 season where he advanced to the MACC and was named MAC COTY.
Albin was offered an extension/raise in Dec. 2024 following being named MAC COTY and (reportedly before) winning MAC title, but signed with Charlotte instead.

I just have a few questions based on facts. Every time Albin won MAC COTY he was offered an extension. The AD offered Albin three contracts over the course of three years and five months. That is an average of a new contract less than every 14 months! Why is that considered disrespectful? If the previous contracts were so disrespectful, why on earth did he sign them? Seems like a lot of damage control to protect his legacy, based on the Saturday fiasco, but that's just my opinion.

This whole thread is like a bunch of ex girlfriends who have been dumped lol. Cromer caused all of this.

And if you do have any evidence of a fallout, don't use something called "Brobible" as your source. Please.

Brobible.com had a lengthy article on the situation.

As far as this situation goes, it seems they are as reliable as any other sports web site.

Haven't seen seen anyone dispute what that said.

Here's another idea of a way things could have gone wrong. I have no facts to support it; this is just me putting out a hypothetical situation that aligns with the facts that we do know, and which could have led us here. Suppose Charlotte contacted Tim, and told him that they wanted to make an offer to him, so he scheduled a trip to Charlotte. Next, suppose he told Julie when he was going to go, and that if Julie wanted to make him an offer, she should make it by that time, but since Julie had to get approval for a raise/new contract, and they weren't able to get an offer approved until just before the game. Meanwhile, Charlotte gave him their offer, and said "take it or leave it". It was better than he had, so he took it, only to get Ohio's offer too late to matter.

Is this possible?

Here's another idea of a way things could have gone wrong. I have no facts to support it; this is just me putting out a hypothetical situation that aligns with the facts that we do know, and which could have led us here. Suppose Charlotte contacted Tim, and told him that they wanted to make an offer to him, so he scheduled a trip to Charlotte. Next, suppose he told Julie when he was going to go, and that if Julie wanted to make him an offer, she should make it by that time, but since Julie had to get approval for a raise/new contract, and they weren't able to get an offer approved until just before the game. Meanwhile, Charlotte gave him their offer, and said "take it or leave it". It was better than he had, so he took it, only to get Ohio's offer too late to matter.

Is this possible? [/QUOTE]I think this is the most likely case. Here's what I guessed in another thread:

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My back of the envelope math is that Albin's name started popping up in rumors (Rice, Purdue, Charlotte, etc) and he tried to use that as leverage. But college sports are a small world, and Cromer knew Albin was choice 11 at Purdue, not in the running at Rice, and that Charlotte is a terrible job. She said some version of "we just renegotiated your deal 11 months ago, but if you think the market has changed, we can't stop you from interviewing". But the only market was Charlotte, and they made an offer. Albin took it back to OU, who needed time to get approval. In the meantime, Charlotte -- not wanting to lose out on choice number 2 if Albin said no -- told Albin his offer was exploding and that they wouldn't wait until after the MACC.

Behind door 1 was a million dollars a year. Behind door 2 was a potential raise, but of an uncertain amount. He was one year removed from negotiating with OU, and they were likely very transparent about budget and the administrations appetite for football salaries. So he signed with Charlotte and took the sure thing. He probably figured until he showed up in North Carolina, he could back out if needed. But he's not very savvy, and Charlotte leaked the deal post Championship to force his hand and make it harder to accept a counter.

And everything else -- his love of Athens, his terrible treatment at the hands of Julie Cromer, his poor, poor dog -- is just nonsense fan narrative to make themselves feel better about what was a purely rational choice.

Looks like the A.D. and administration are going to make the same mistake with Smith they made with Albin. Waiting too long to make an offer. [/QUOTE]Seems to be true . . . unless, please read below.

[QUOTE=RSBobcat] What I don't or have not seen is any evidence of Ohio/Cromer being Proactive/Anticipating what was pretty well Expected......And expected well before the MACC game.....