That's not unusual, especially if the AD or other party thinks the agent is not acting in good faith.

What is this disrespect that people keep bringing up?

Did she not say hello to him in the hallway? Talk bad about him behind his back to other coaches? Throw spitballs at him? Ignore him in front of others at staff meetings? Turn her back at him when he was asking her a question?

I believe that the "disrespect" is not getting back to Tim in time with a counter-offer. I don't think that was disrespect, though, so much as just the time it takes to get approval for such an offer.

I think it's time to move on from this. Let's hope that a year from now, there is a successful Brian Smith leading Ohio to at least one P5 win, yet another 10 win season, and a back to back MACC, and that Tim is successful in Charlotte as well.

TA's last renegotiation was after 2022 season, a contract signed 3/2023. What he was then seeking was a new contract after another 2 successful seasons had past which is reasonable considering how far back the salary had dropped relative to other MAC coaches.

No BL Sense of Shame he did not want to be compensated like the the best coach in the MAC. He just wanted to be treated with respect and dignity that he deserved. No way should Coach Albin have been the 6th highest paid coach in the league after what he accomplished his first three seasons. One would think that the administration would appreciate and value a head coach who had served a total of 20 years at your institution in some sort of capacity. A head coach who attended MAC swimming Meet and volunteered as a timer. A head coach who attended soccer, baseball, volleyball and softball games and encouraged his players to attend those events. If you look at his salary in Charlotte then you will see he wasn't asking for a ton more than what he was paid in Athens. Also take note, his staff will get about 550 plus k more down south than what they were paid in Athens. If Coach Albin was all about the money he would have asked for more in Charlotte and his staff would get less. The team lost a trainer in the summer that was never replaced. Many people do not know that. This administration evidently wanted to remove itself from Frank Solich and all his ties. It is just baffling! The administration started these contract talks in June and kept dragging them on. She was banking on 5-6 wins with all the portal departures to power four programs. It came back to bite her.

So this whole scenario happened in the minutes after the title game? Nope...he had already signed w Charlotte.

Your own explanation of the disrespect jumps around in time so much that it's pretty hard to make sense of.

Albin has signed with Charlotte before he won a MACC. That's very clear and basically indisputable. So no explanation of the "disrespect" that includes "accomplishing something that had never occurred" is relevant. That's just revisionism.

If the extent of the disrespect is that Cromer didn't offer a new contact in discussions that began before this season, that seems pretty weak to me. We had a good year in 2023. We also didn't win our conference, or even play for a chance to. I fail to see why asking an employee to work on the contract they signed for two years is some massive slap in the face.

Albin needs to take some responsibility, no? He signed two contracts that you seem to feel he felt were insulting. Why did he sign them? Because he was being paid the market rate for his services, and what changes that is success. He would have gotten more if he stuck around, but instead he chose to be insulted that our AD wanted to see continued success.

I mean for Christ's sake you're claiming he wasn't treated with "dignity". He was the University's second highest paid employee. He made more than the President. And he got an offer that matched Charlotte's in the end. Just complete nonsense. You're acting like he was a sharecropper. Dignity. Get a grip.

Condensing this whole debate down to it's simplest points, ones on which everyone seems to agree:
1. Albin thought that, based on winning ten last year, and making a competitive team despite huge losses to the portal, he deserved a raise.
2. Some people disagreed. They believed that he did not deserve a raise, at least not before winning the MACC.
3. Charlotte was willing to offer Albin a job and a raise even before winning the MACC, so he accepted the offer.
4. Albin's new salary, while a raise, was not a huge raise over his prior pay, and is less than his predecessor at Charlotte was being paid, and is in the bottom half of the AAC
5. Cromer did finally make him an offer, one that was greater than the offer he accepted from Charlotte, but the offer was made too late, after he had already accepted the job at Charlotte

It doesn't matter if you are in the camp that didn't think he deserved a raise, or in the camp that thinks he did. It doesn't matter if you think Albin was unreasonable in what he wanted to be paid, or you think he just wanted some kind of a raise in recognition of his achievements. Either way, it's done, and it's time to move on. Let's hope that Ohio acts decisively and wisely in choosing his replacement, and that Albin is successful in Charlotte.

Sorry, I must just not be following. Which review?

Albin signed a new contract in 3/23. Bobcat1996 is saying that Albin and Cromer started discussing a new deal 6/24. Only one season passed, and any other discussions were based on the 2023 season and a partial '24 season.

By Cromer waiting, or stalling as some see it, she added another season onto the end of the contract with Win #8 and therefore added another $700,000 to the buyout. Is this correct?

The Rice offer? Is this fiction?

Put yourself in the shoes of the AD, who has a very tight budget and must be concerned with the optics of putting lots of money into coaches' wallets.

If, as you say, the renegotiation began in June of 2024, would you have been inclined to give Albin a major increase in the wake of him losing one-third of his team - and 80% of his offensive production - to the portal? Does he not bear ANY responsibility for these losses? Why did Miami not experience the same?

Would it have made sense to give him a major increase after losing at Syracuse?

After an embarrassing loss to Kentucky?

The no-show at Miami?

There would have been an outcry in every case.

Imagine the disrespect BYU’s coach felt not getting an extension til a full week after their regular season was over.

Guess there will be another AD spot open.

https://www.si.com/college/byu/football/byu-announces-lon...