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A-townBound
10/19/2016 1:04 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Also, I found his statements about the QB situation interesting. It appears to me that as of Monday they were seriously considering starting Maxwell against Kent but hadn't really made up their minds yet.
He mentioned during the radio show Monday night that a decision had been made on the starter, and that the team had been made aware of that decision. He went on to say that information would also be kept quiet. Russ said they too would not let the word out. Frank said he would be OK if Russ made it known on Saturday during the pre-game show.
Last Edited: 10/19/2016 1:04:55 PM by A-townBound
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OhioCatFan
10/19/2016 1:37 PM
A-townBound wrote:expand_more
Also, I found his statements about the QB situation interesting. It appears to me that as of Monday they were seriously considering starting Maxwell against Kent but hadn't really made up their minds yet.
He mentioned during the radio show Monday night that a decision had been made on the starter, and that the team had been made aware of that decision. He went on to say that information would also be kept quiet. Russ said they too would not let the word out. Frank said he would be OK if Russ made it known on Saturday during the pre-game show.
Thanks for the further info. Seems like between Monday morning and Monday evening they made a decision. The fact that they are being so quite about it, seems to me to hint that there is a change in the wind.
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SBH
10/19/2016 1:46 PM
Maybe we can employ the Enigma machine to get to the truth. I guarantee it's Maxwell, and glad of it.
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OhioCatFan
10/19/2016 6:11 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Maybe we can employ the Enigma machine to get to the truth. I guarantee it's Maxwell, and glad of it.
I hope that KSU doesn't use this Namath-like guarantee to practice as though Maxwell will be the QB. ;-)
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OUcats82
10/19/2016 6:19 PM
Brian Smith wrote:expand_more
It has only been since 06 that I have been coming to Bobcat games but it was that year that I saw the most memorable and fun game that I have attended over the years. Anyone who was at Kent that year won't forget it. 35 degrees, 20-30 mph winds all day(the poor kent punter, a -2 punt), rain, sleet, snow, and hail. To top it off a 40 minute lightning delay. What I remember most though was the Kent fans all leaving and the Ohio fans going down and taking their seats behind the team. Great day to be a Bobcat fan and go to a game.

I'm trying to figure out how a game played in 35 degrees and rain with 30mph winds is "fun". But to each their own I guess.
I was about to counter with the fact that I went to many a Browns games as a younger man in this sort of weather.

But then I remembered I was at Browns games in the late 1990s and early 2000s, so...yeah...about the fun part...Phil Dawson backdoor cover field goals, maybe?
You got to see a lot of Dave Zastudil's punting too, no?
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shabamon
10/19/2016 7:53 PM
We need to f*cking annihilate this team.
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doubledribble
10/20/2016 9:11 AM
We need to win, and gain experience for our first year quarterbacks and our young secondary . Tougher games right around the corner.! Go Cats !
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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
10/20/2016 10:02 AM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
We need to f*cking annihilate this team.
We'll be in the correctly-named stadium to do just that.
Last Edited: 10/20/2016 10:02:55 AM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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SBH
10/20/2016 10:53 AM
Not sure we can annihilate anybody.
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Pataskala
10/20/2016 12:13 PM
Statistically, they're two pretty evenly matched teams in MAC play vs somewhat similar opponents (Ohio has had Fiami, BG & EMU; Kent has had Akron, Buffalo & Fiami). Kent has the edge in scoring (28 vs 22) but Ohio is better with scoring defense (19 vs 23).

Kent is 9th in total offense; Ohio 10th. Kent is 5th in rushing offense; Ohio 8th. Ohio is 10th in pass offense; Kent 12th.

Kent is second in total D, Ohio is 3rd. Ohio is 1st in rushing D, Kent is 2nd. Kent is 6th in pass D; Ohio is 9th.

Kent is 7th in the MAC in 3rd down conversions; Ohio is 10th. Kent is 2nd in opponents' 3rd down conversions; Ohio is 4th. Red zone offense: Kent is 6th, Ohio is 8th. But in red zone D, Ohio is 4th, Kent is 10th.

TOP: Kent is 4th, Ohio is 5th. Turnover margin: Ohio is 1st; Kent is 3rd.

Ohio has a big edge in sacks (12 to 5). We're getting a sack about every 10 pass plays; Kent is getting a sack about every 14 pass plays. The teams are close in sacks against (Ohio has given up 6, Kent 7). But Kent hasn't thrown much, so it's a bit skewed. Ohio is giving up a sack about every 16 pass plays; Kent is giving up a sack about every 10 pass plays.
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bshot44
10/20/2016 12:23 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Statistically, they're two pretty evenly matched teams in MAC play vs somewhat similar opponents (Ohio has had Fiami, BG & EMU; Kent has had Akron, Buffalo & Fiami). Kent has the edge in scoring (28 vs 22) but Ohio is better with scoring defense (19 vs 23).

Kent is 9th in total offense; Ohio 10th. Kent is 5th in rushing offense; Ohio 8th. Ohio is 10th in pass offense; Kent 12th.

Kent is second in total D, Ohio is 3rd. Ohio is 1st in rushing D, Kent is 2nd. Kent is 6th in pass D; Ohio is 9th.

Kent is 7th in the MAC in 3rd down conversions; Ohio is 10th. Kent is 2nd in opponents' 3rd down conversions; Ohio is 4th. Red zone offense: Kent is 6th, Ohio is 8th. But in red zone D, Ohio is 4th, Kent is 10th.

TOP: Kent is 4th, Ohio is 5th. Turnover margin: Ohio is 1st; Kent is 3rd.

Ohio has a big edge in sacks (12 to 5). We're getting a sack about every 10 pass plays; Kent is getting a sack about every 14 pass plays. The teams are close in sacks against (Ohio has given up 6, Kent 7). But Kent hasn't thrown much, so it's a bit skewed. Ohio is giving up a sack about every 16 pass plays; Kent is giving up a sack about every 10 pass plays.
Yuck

10th in total offense
8th in rush offense
10th in pass offense
9th in pass efficiency
9th in pass defense
7th in pass efficiency defense
10th in 3rd down conversions
8th in red zone offense
9th in penalties

Those are some disappointing numbers especially when you consider Ohio has played Miami, BG and EMU (who is much improved, yes)

Is their really hope that things will drastically improve with UT, CMU and Akron still left?

These numbers don't really give you great hope that Ohio can blowout Kent and UB.....or even guarantee a win
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bobcat2nc
10/20/2016 4:23 PM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
It has only been since 06 that I have been coming to Bobcat games but it was that year that I saw the most memorable and fun game that I have attended over the years. Anyone who was at Kent that year won't forget it. 35 degrees, 20-30 mph winds all day(the poor kent punter, a -2 punt), rain, sleet, snow, and hail. To top it off a 40 minute lightning delay. What I remember most though was the Kent fans all leaving and the Ohio fans going down and taking their seats behind the team. Great day to be a Bobcat fan and go to a game.

I'm trying to figure out how a game played in 35 degrees and rain with 30mph winds is "fun". But to each their own I guess.
I was about to counter with the fact that I went to many a Browns games as a younger man in this sort of weather.

But then I remembered I was at Browns games in the late 1990s and early 2000s, so...yeah...about the fun part...Phil Dawson backdoor cover field goals, maybe?
You got to see a lot of Dave Zastudil's punting too, no?
Oops---inadvertent copy and paste. While I am here I will just say Go Cats
Last Edited: 10/20/2016 4:33:23 PM by bobcat2nc
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colobobcat66
10/21/2016 1:18 PM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
Statistically, they're two pretty evenly matched teams in MAC play vs somewhat similar opponents (Ohio has had Fiami, BG & EMU; Kent has had Akron, Buffalo & Fiami). Kent has the edge in scoring (28 vs 22) but Ohio is better with scoring defense (19 vs 23).

Kent is 9th in total offense; Ohio 10th. Kent is 5th in rushing offense; Ohio 8th. Ohio is 10th in pass offense; Kent 12th.

Kent is second in total D, Ohio is 3rd. Ohio is 1st in rushing D, Kent is 2nd. Kent is 6th in pass D; Ohio is 9th.

Kent is 7th in the MAC in 3rd down conversions; Ohio is 10th. Kent is 2nd in opponents' 3rd down conversions; Ohio is 4th. Red zone offense: Kent is 6th, Ohio is 8th. But in red zone D, Ohio is 4th, Kent is 10th.

TOP: Kent is 4th, Ohio is 5th. Turnover margin: Ohio is 1st; Kent is 3rd.

Ohio has a big edge in sacks (12 to 5). We're getting a sack about every 10 pass plays; Kent is getting a sack about every 14 pass plays. The teams are close in sacks against (Ohio has given up 6, Kent 7). But Kent hasn't thrown much, so it's a bit skewed. Ohio is giving up a sack about every 16 pass plays; Kent is giving up a sack about every 10 pass plays.
Yuck

10th in total offense
8th in rush offense
10th in pass offense
9th in pass efficiency
9th in pass defense
7th in pass efficiency defense
10th in 3rd down conversions
8th in red zone offense
9th in penalties

Those are some disappointing numbers especially when you consider Ohio has played Miami, BG and EMU (who is much improved, yes)

Is their really hope that things will drastically improve with UT, CMU and Akron still left?

These numbers don't really give you great hope that Ohio can blowout Kent and UB.....or even guarantee a win
I agree you with you 100%. I'm not real surprised with the offensive results because of our QB inexperience and the running back injuries. On the defensive side, it shows the lack of defensive back experience. Having a good front 7 is not all that counts defensively. It's too bad that the holes made up for some of the very good players we have at some positions

We are maybe in the top 6 or 7 in the league and that's about it. If we fall to Kent, I'd rate us in the bottom 3-4.
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Ted Thompson
10/21/2016 2:17 PM

 

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bshot44
10/21/2016 3:05 PM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Statistically, they're two pretty evenly matched teams in MAC play vs somewhat similar opponents (Ohio has had Fiami, BG & EMU; Kent has had Akron, Buffalo & Fiami). Kent has the edge in scoring (28 vs 22) but Ohio is better with scoring defense (19 vs 23).

Kent is 9th in total offense; Ohio 10th. Kent is 5th in rushing offense; Ohio 8th. Ohio is 10th in pass offense; Kent 12th.

Kent is second in total D, Ohio is 3rd. Ohio is 1st in rushing D, Kent is 2nd. Kent is 6th in pass D; Ohio is 9th.

Kent is 7th in the MAC in 3rd down conversions; Ohio is 10th. Kent is 2nd in opponents' 3rd down conversions; Ohio is 4th. Red zone offense: Kent is 6th, Ohio is 8th. But in red zone D, Ohio is 4th, Kent is 10th.

TOP: Kent is 4th, Ohio is 5th. Turnover margin: Ohio is 1st; Kent is 3rd.

Ohio has a big edge in sacks (12 to 5). We're getting a sack about every 10 pass plays; Kent is getting a sack about every 14 pass plays. The teams are close in sacks against (Ohio has given up 6, Kent 7). But Kent hasn't thrown much, so it's a bit skewed. Ohio is giving up a sack about every 16 pass plays; Kent is giving up a sack about every 10 pass plays.
Yuck

10th in total offense
8th in rush offense
10th in pass offense
9th in pass efficiency
9th in pass defense
7th in pass efficiency defense
10th in 3rd down conversions
8th in red zone offense
9th in penalties

Those are some disappointing numbers especially when you consider Ohio has played Miami, BG and EMU (who is much improved, yes)

Is their really hope that things will drastically improve with UT, CMU and Akron still left?

These numbers don't really give you great hope that Ohio can blowout Kent and UB.....or even guarantee a win
I agree you with you 100%. I'm not real surprised with the offensive results because of our QB inexperience and the running back injuries. On the defensive side, it shows the lack of defensive back experience. Having a good front 7 is not all that counts defensively. It's too bad that the holes made up for some of the very good players we have at some positions

We are maybe in the top 6 or 7 in the league and that's about it. If we fall to Kent, I'd rate us in the bottom 3-4.
Yup. +1
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Monroe Slavin
10/21/2016 4:33 PM
Sorry, but if my front 7 on d is totally solid but I'm worried about the back end...then I let the front seven loose.

Lotsa different type of pressures, blitzes.

Not us. We're very contain, playing to physical power with no finesse, no strategy, no different looks.


Let 'em loose!




Geez, even our defense is boring.
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OhioCatFan
10/21/2016 5:26 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Sorry, but if my front 7 on d is totally solid but I'm worried about the back end...then I let the front seven loose.

Lotsa different type of pressures, blitzes.

Not us. We're very contain, playing to physical power with no finesse, no strategy, no different looks.


Let 'em loose!

Geez, even our defense is boring.
Again, I interrupt, just temporarily, this rant, with a factoid:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/st...
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Monroe Slavin
10/21/2016 6:14 PM
Have we not had enough of splinter factoids which don't reflect the sad truth of our performance?

I don't think many would argue the generally low quality of the teams which we've played this season.


Solid stats against lousy teams do not mitigate the scraping-by wins against poor teams and losses to poor teams and the blah quality that one sees by watching.

C'mon.
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doubledribble
10/21/2016 8:18 PM
Should be an interesting game to watch. Kent defense is a good one with a couple of guys we will be seeing on Sundays in the future. Hopefully the Cats can generate some offense and make some plays. Practice has been spirited and up-tempo all week and I see the Cats being ready to play. Go Cats
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colobobcat66
10/21/2016 8:25 PM
doubledribble wrote:expand_more
Should be an interesting game to watch. Kent defense is a good one with a couple of guys we will be seeing on Sundays in the future. Hopefully the Cats can generate some offense and make some plays. Practice has been spirited and up-tempo all week and I see the Cats being ready to play. Go Cats
I hope our running backs are back to full stength, otherwise I'm not real confident that our offense can score much. We scored 1 offensive touchdown against Miami. Kent seems better defensively to me.
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Monroe Slavin
10/21/2016 9:29 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Sorry, but if my front 7 on d is totally solid but I'm worried about the back end...then I let the front seven loose.

Lotsa different type of pressures, blitzes.

Not us. We're very contain, playing to physical power with no finesse, no strategy, no different looks.


Let 'em loose!

Geez, even our defense is boring.
Again, I interrupt, just temporarily, this rant, with a factoid:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/st...


Your factoid is that we're 2nd in the nation in sacks to Ohio State.

Clearly, this proves that we're the second best team in the nation, right after Ohio State.


At least we're not picking a splinter metric that doesn't prove anything here.
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TrueFan
10/21/2016 9:30 PM
[QUOTE=Monroe Slavin] Sorry, but if my front 7 on d is totally solid but I'm worried about the back end...then I let the front seven loose.

Lotsa different type of pressures, blitzes.

Not us. We're very contain, playing to physical power with no finesse, no strategy, no different looks.


Let 'em loose!




Geez, even our defense is boring.







OMG......Make up your minds.......first they show boat too much, now they're boring.......Maybe you judgemental fans are boring. Get over it, and if you can't suit up and help them...BE QUIET with all the negativity..... I'm sure they will be fine without all the fair weather fans]
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Recovering Journalist
10/21/2016 11:54 PM
TrueFan wrote:expand_more
OMG......Make up your minds.......first they show boat too much, now they're boring.......Maybe you judgemental fans are boring. Get over it, and if you can't suit up and help them...BE QUIET with all the negativity..... I'm sure they will be fine without all the fair weather fans]
This is one of the tamest message boards I've ever seen. If no one was feeling negative at this point in the season, I'd be worried that no one cares.
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Monroe Slavin
10/22/2016 12:26 AM
Showboating and being boring are not the only two options.

It's possible to not showboat yet be an exciting, interesting, stirring and effective defense.


In fact, that remark about 'first you don't want showboating, now you don't like boring' --not good. I call a flagrant one for fractured thinking.
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RSBobcat
10/22/2016 1:24 AM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
OMG......Make up your minds.......first they show boat too much, now they're boring.......Maybe you judgemental fans are boring. Get over it, and if you can't suit up and help them...BE QUIET with all the negativity..... I'm sure they will be fine without all the fair weather fans]
This is one of the tamest message boards I've ever seen. If no one was feeling negative at this point in the season, I'd be worried that no one cares.
Definitions of:

Judgemental: of or concerning the use of judgment.

Fan: person who has a strong interest in or admiration for a particular person or thing.
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