That being said, no donation seed money (and what the donors and the Sooks gave for the IPF and the Academic Center respectively was much more than seed money) no infrastructure improvements to Ohio’s football program; I think that’s the point of the discussion. Were it not for the Walter family, the Sooks and the other donors, Ohio would be even further behind the 8 ball as far as football’s concerned. And that, I think, says it all.

FCS is a theoretical discussion. Ohio State in that large Columbus corporate market with that large student body if it was starting football from scratch in the 90's would be in the AAC today like UCF. There is no conceivable way a university with a situation like Ohio State could be in FCS. Ohio with its 20k enrollment size + 200 year tradition its inconceivable almost that it wouldn't be competing in Division 1 though Athens is small enough for DII or DIII. Then with a football program at a minimum with no tradition its an FCS program with an 8,500 seat stadium but in something like the MVC, CAA or Southern Conference because we would have been around since the beginning of FCS. High level FCS is Ohio's floor. The MAC is the penthouse of mid major football. Midweek TV deal with highlights on Sportscenter afterwards is as much publicity as what we can get. There is no way playing on Saturday to get on sportscenter aside from playing Tennessee early in the season or something. We could be at the high FCS level but why would we want to be? I am pretty sure there are no markets as tiny as Athens in the P5 and definitely not with our corporate support level so that one seems out too.

AMEN TO THAT!!

I enjoyed quarters because I used the break between Thanksgiving and New Year's to get two seasonal jobs (UPS and department store) to help pay tuition.

I've always questioned the switch to semesters and the only answer I've heard was that the Ohio Board of Regents wanted it that way, even though it was never really explained what the advantages for OU were.

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I was at O.U. when the Fall Quarter started at the end of September,ended around Christmas and you got out for the Summer in June.
That schedule didn't work well for anyone.



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Getting out in June-and the problem would be??? Athens in May-June, does it get better that that?? ;)


Said tongue-in-cheek. I know that getting out in June didn't help as far as jobs were concerned.

OU in May....(sigh).... good times....

These poor semester system kids don't know what they are missing.

Yes.

Win a MACC

Wondering where that Ohio team that showed up yesterday was a few weeks ago vs Akron and Buffalo. But hey, a W is a W and doing it in the Bahamas was a great experience for the team.

Glad to see the Cats get another bowl win and it’s a nice way to polish off the season. Let’s hope the staff goes out and fills some of the holes that’ll be left behind after this senior class leaves. Already counting down until the Howard game

A couple of points; as for the quarter-semester deal. A neighbor who is a mover and shaker in the Higher Education world told me that schools were at first gently persuaded to switch to semesters and then strong armed. Apparently, the reasoning behind all of this stems from the ability to transfer within the state and thus making it easier in this the era of educational mobility

Secondly as for Ohio Football, I think this deliberative matter needs to be in the MAC's court, not in that of each individual school. We can't single handily change the direction of our conference's football status. This has to be done at HQ. Yesterday's glorious bowl result helps, but it must be addressed by the MAC itself. We have debated this point ad nauseum, but with less and less kids playing football in youth leagues and high school football, and few Division I schools dropping the sport, great athletes will be in short supply and thus probably heading to Power 5 conferences. We need a plan not so much for the next few years, but for 2025 and beyond.

Finally, thank you Alan for the World Series of Rock reference, though it is getting harder and harder to explain that 1970s event to young people, especially our children, many of which aren't even familiar with what we would consider to be the headliners of the those days!

Wow Alan those were some headliners. I hate to think what ticket prices would cost today for a similar event. As for where you sat, I can only imagine the stories. I am glad we agree that the conference as a whole has to address the future specifically what the MAC thinks the future holds for the conference, not teams on an ad hoc basis. If it is every team for itself, God only what what will happen!

Yep, that is some of the same reasoning cited by those gutless wastes of carbon who were on the board of trustees at the time. Nevermind that when the state strong armed the switch to semesters through OHIO, Ohio State, and Cincinnati (and I think a number of community colleges) were also on quarters: so if those dirty weasels were actually interested in making it easier for students to transfer, there would at least have been SOME discussion of forcing the other schools over to quarters, rather than vice a versa. Add to that, if you're looking at transferring among schools, you've got an extra opportunity going from "quarter to quarter" than from "semester to semester,"
or "quarter to semester, semester to quarter" ( that is, 4x per year rather than 3x per year).

No, logical arguments had nothing to do with it. The schools were, as you say, forced from on high to switch to semesters, any and all arguments against it be damned. It is for these reasons that Strickland and his unindicted (probably) co-conspirator Fingerhut should be forever damned to the deepest pits of hell, or at least a series of extremely painful and extremely embarrassing skin conditions. They're the dirty rotten bas****s who forced our fine institution onto semesters. May they be forever hounded from polite society.