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Donuts
1/6/2020 2:00 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Imagine putting OU in Grove City, establishing it decades after OSU, and leaving OU as an inferior academic institution in virtually every concentration to the Buckeyes. That's the life of Eastern Michigan.
I agree with the general thrust of these remarks, but I should point out that for the first few decades the institution that was to become the University of Michigan was kind of an itinerant school bouncing around from one location to another, not landing in Ann Arbor until 1841, with its first university-level graduating class was in 1845. EMU was founded in 1849.
I agree with you pointing out such important issues in my passing comment, but I should point out that Michigan State Normal School did not evolve into Michigan State Normal College until 1899, 44 years after the first graduating class of the University of Michigan. However, it would not gain university status until 1959, which was actually a century and four years after the University of Michigan's first graduating class.

To further complicate matters, Eastern Michigan University did not become a D1 athletic program until the 1970s, thus killing any comparisons I had for athletics.

Also, upon further review, Grove City to the Ohio State campus is approximately 10 miles by road, going off shortest distance. Meanwhile, Eastern Michigan to the University of Michigan is a mere 6.6 miles, making my whole comment terribly off. A more accurate comparison would have to be the location of Capital University to Ohio State, as the distance and relative location are almost identical. Although now I'm messing up the demographics of the surrounding area, daring to compare Bexley to Ypsilanti.
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GoCats105
1/6/2020 2:18 PM
Please make Michigan State Normal School the real name again. Much catchier than Eastern Michigan.
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GoCats105
1/6/2020 2:19 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
The green and white will win this game. It's a lock folks!
I bet you also tell people on 12/31 "see you next year."
The Tigers will win the national championship.
The *purple Tigers will win the national championship. SO MANY LEVELS.
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Donuts
1/6/2020 2:51 PM
Ohio State Normal College At Kent
Buchtel College
Bowling Green State Normal School
University of Buffalo Medical School
American Western University
Yale of the West

Palmer University
Central Michigan Normal School and Business Institute
Michigan State Normal School
Northern Illinois State Teachers College
Toledo University of Arts and Trades
Michigan College of Education
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OhioCatFan
1/6/2020 3:51 PM

Donuts wrote:expand_more
Ohio State Normal College At Kent
Buchtel College
Bowling Green State Normal School
University of Buffalo Medical School
American Western University
Yale of the West

Palmer University
Central Michigan Normal School and Business Institute
Michigan State Normal School
Northern Illinois State Teachers College
Toledo University of Arts and Trades
Michigan College of Education

 

You forgot the best of them all . . . American Western University! wink

And, don't mess with Bexley; it's my wife's hometown. cheeky

Yes, sometimes us SEO hicks manage to marry up.  Or, as Alan once bluntly told me, I "out kicked my coverage." indecision

Dedicded to use emoticons this time, because sometimes my sarcasm comes off as biting when I mean it to be lighthearted and funny.  That's was my intent with calling you "donuthole" earlier.  It was meant to be funny, like "Hey grasshopper . . ."  I was just making a play on words with your name.  I've done this with other folks on here over the years.  I guess I sometimes forget that it's hard to project vocal inflections on a message board. sad

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Pataskala
1/6/2020 9:11 PM
Donuts wrote:expand_more
Imagine putting OU in Grove City, establishing it decades after OSU, and leaving OU as an inferior academic institution in virtually every concentration to the Buckeyes. That's the life of Eastern Michigan.
I agree with the general thrust of these remarks, but I should point out that for the first few decades the institution that was to become the University of Michigan was kind of an itinerant school bouncing around from one location to another, not landing in Ann Arbor until 1841, with its first university-level graduating class was in 1845. EMU was founded in 1849.
I agree with you pointing out such important issues in my passing comment, but I should point out that Michigan State Normal School did not evolve into Michigan State Normal College until 1899, 44 years after the first graduating class of the University of Michigan. However, it would not gain university status until 1959, which was actually a century and four years after the University of Michigan's first graduating class.

To further complicate matters, Eastern Michigan University did not become a D1 athletic program until the 1970s, thus killing any comparisons I had for athletics.

Also, upon further review, Grove City to the Ohio State campus is approximately 10 miles by road, going off shortest distance. Meanwhile, Eastern Michigan to the University of Michigan is a mere 6.6 miles, making my whole comment terribly off. A more accurate comparison would have to be the location of Capital University to Ohio State, as the distance and relative location are almost identical. Although now I'm messing up the demographics of the surrounding area, daring to compare Bexley to Ypsilanti.
Try Gahanna.
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Jeff McKinney
1/7/2020 2:24 AM
EMU drew well when they were in the old Bowen Fieldhouse. It's ironic that their attendance tanked only after they built the new Convocation Center.

I've been to several games at EMU over the years. The first one was in the old Bowen Fieldhouse back in the glory days of the MAC. It was the game where Jeff Boals blew out his knee. Trent was on the team. The fieldhouse wasnt very nice but it was completely packed that night...total sellout. It wasnt a comfortable environment for visitors as I got several menacing looks from EMU fans. Along with Jeff getting hurt, we lost the game. Tough night.
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OUVan
1/7/2020 9:41 AM
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They lead the nation in steals per game and play 10 guys more than 10 minutes a game. If I recall, Western wasn't supposed to be any good either.
While true they also give up a very high 3pt% and an inordinate number of offensive rebounds. Haven't seen them play but the numbers suggest they gamble a lot on defense. This might be our slowest tempo game of the season. We play slowly and they like to slow teams down.
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shabamon
1/7/2020 9:54 AM
60 points might be enough to win this one. EMU is pretty offensively challenged, even for them. I think we have the recipe to win (good point guard, shooters, comfort of our own baskets). Put Vander Plas and Murrell in the middle of that zone and let their size dictate a mid range jumper, drive or pass to the open pocket. Don't give them any freebies with turnovers leading to fast breaks.

I think both teams will be in the 20s at halftime, but if we can score 60 and limit to maybe 11 turnovers, I feel confident we will win.
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MedinaCat
1/7/2020 10:43 AM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
EMU drew well when they were in the old Bowen Fieldhouse. It's ironic that their attendance tanked only after they built the new Convocation Center.
We lived in the Detroit area in the 1990's. Eastern drew very well and was boosted by getting its fair share of media attention from local radio/TV as well as the two Detroit newspapers. Things went south when Braun left for the west coast. Their new arena opened the year after he bolted(I think.)
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Andrew Ruck
1/7/2020 11:43 AM
5.5 point favorites tonight with an over/under of 126.5.

Coincidentally, the over/under of students in attendance is also 126.5.
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GoCats105
1/7/2020 12:10 PM
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Coincidentally, the over/under of students in attendance is also 126.5.
Gimme the under on that action.
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shabamon
1/7/2020 12:16 PM
I don't think classes are in session yet.
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Andrew Ruck
1/7/2020 12:41 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I don't think classes are in session yet.
Oh. In that case, change the student over/under to 4.5.
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shabamon
1/7/2020 1:29 PM
Dorms re-open Saturday at 9am. We may have some student attendance then, but whatever the next home game is after the weekend will be the first true student game.
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100%Cat
1/7/2020 4:16 PM
An Ohio-EMU game with no chance of a James Thompson-Gavin Block bru-ha-ha/kerfluffle...I'm not sure how to handle that.
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JSF
1/7/2020 5:04 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
The green and white will win this game. It's a lock folks!
I bet you also tell people on 12/31 "see you next year."
The Tigers will win the national championship.
The *purple Tigers will win the national championship. SO MANY LEVELS.
The trophy is coming home to Death Valley!
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OUVan
1/7/2020 7:45 PM
Starting to see what this team was supposed to look like. Fun first half.
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shabamon
1/7/2020 9:01 PM
I'll take any win over EMU we can get, however they come.
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ohio9704
1/7/2020 9:10 PM
McDay was always the key to this freshman class, so glad we kept his commitment through the coaching change. Enjoy watching him play. He does all the little things and sometimes the big things you need to win. Not perfect, but look forward to his development.
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Alan Swank
1/7/2020 9:25 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
They lead the nation in steals per game and play 10 guys more than 10 minutes a game. If I recall, Western wasn't supposed to be any good either.
While true, they got some of those lofty numbers against four non-D1 opponents.
17 against us tonight. They really get after the ball. Good win.
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GroverBall
1/7/2020 9:49 PM
Toward the end of the first half, did anyone else catch the ref calling a foul on Foster say loudly "over the back" and gesture with both hands indicating the reach over the shoulders?

How many times have we heard on here that "over the back" is not a foul? Yes, I understand that it's not identified as such in the old rulebook, but when it comes out of a ref's mouth after a whistle it's hard to argue it's not a foul.

Unless of course maybe the ref sucks, and this guy did.

As to those 17 steals, more than half were pure sloppiness on OUr part. Good win and McDay was MVP even though Jordan did the scoring and is now 15 shy of Kellogg.
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Jeff McKinney
1/7/2020 9:54 PM
You're allowed to go over the back unless you make contact.
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GroverBall
1/7/2020 10:00 PM
Right, so "over the back" shouldn't come out of a ref's mouth to describe a foul, it should have been "push" with two hands up moving forward?
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OhioCatFan
1/7/2020 11:12 PM
If I heard Coach Boals correctly in the post-game interview he said that EMU was #1 in the nation in steals and the #7th tallest team. Both surprised me. Taking a quick look at their roster they do have three 6-8 guys, one 6-10 player and a 7-footer. I guess this surprised me 'cause they weren't all on the court at the same time, 'cause the play the same positions. Nonetheless, it's interesting that they've got so many tall timbers. In terms of steals, they did seem to have very quick hands, and it makes our excessive turnovers a little more understandable.
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