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Topic: Official CBI First Round Thread: Rice
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Cellis033
3/17/2022 1:51 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
No matter what happens - I just want us to go out there and try our best. Yes, this is a reward for one of the best seasons in our history. Yes, I'm still mad about losing to Kent. I wish the CBI still did the higher seed home advantage format so we could get one more game at the Convo. BUT, I think we should try and win this tournament even though I feel like it's a "losers" tournament and try to give Carter and Schmock a nice send off game(s).
Assuming that you play for championships, this would rank as the 20th best season at best. We've won 14 regular season championship and 5 MAC tourney championships where we didn't win the regular season. Additionally we went to 4 NIT tournaments when we didn't win the MAC regular season or tourney.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Bobcats_men%27s_basket...

It would be an entertaining off-season distraction for the contributors on BobcatAttack to rank the 20 best Ohio Men’s Basketball seasons.
THIS. ^


I’m in!
Same here. Time for some self taught Ohio Basketball history lessons 🤓
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UpSan Bobcat
3/17/2022 10:02 AM
cc-cat wrote:expand_more
Our bench isn't that good - we are not going to go down there and get too creative with minutes.
Yes, if you give too many bench minutes, you won't have too many games, and that will severely limit additional playing time. I think you have to give a few extra bench minutes, both because of what this tournament does or doesn't mean and because it's potentially four games in five days, but you still have to play to win.
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Alan Swank
3/17/2022 11:19 AM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Our bench isn't that good - we are not going to go down there and get too creative with minutes.
Yes, if you give too many bench minutes, you won't have too many games, and that will severely limit additional playing time. I think you have to give a few extra bench minutes, both because of what this tournament does or doesn't mean and because it's potentially four games in five days, but you still have to play to win.
I'll qualify my comments by saying my Bobcat live history only goes back to 1979. The top three in order for me would be the Sweet 16 run in 2021, the entire 1994 year - the MAC regular season and tournament championship and the pre-season NIT championship (I was in the stands for the UNC game, the Indiana game and the game at MSG), and then 1983 or 1985.
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Mike Johnson
3/17/2022 11:56 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Our bench isn't that good - we are not going to go down there and get too creative with minutes.
Yes, if you give too many bench minutes, you won't have too many games, and that will severely limit additional playing time. I think you have to give a few extra bench minutes, both because of what this tournament does or doesn't mean and because it's potentially four games in five days, but you still have to play to win.
I'll qualify my comments by saying my Bobcat live history only goes back to 1979. The top three in order for me would be the Sweet 16 run in 2021, the entire 1994 year - the MAC regular season and tournament championship and the pre-season NIT championship (I was in the stands for the UNC game, the Indiana game and the game at MSG), and then 1983 or 1985.
To me, the best Ohio team remains the '63-'64 version. Finished 21-6. Played a tough non-conference schedule. Won the MAC. In the NCAA tournament, beat Louisville and Kentucky before losing to Michigan in the Elite 8.

The '64-'65 team also distinguished itself. Also played a tough non-conf schedule. Finished with 19 wins and a MAC title. Lost by a point in the opening NCAA game.

The '69-'70 team also was special. Like those earlier Snyder teams, played a tough non-conf schedule. Finished 20-5 and finished ranked in the AP's Top 25.
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bobcatsquared
3/17/2022 1:33 PM
I've been following Ohio basketball for four decades and change. I regret missing the 1960 teams, not only for how good those teams were but also because of the competition they faced. Having Big 10 teams regularly visiting Grover Center and later the Convo must have been special.
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OhioCatFan
3/17/2022 4:37 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
To me, the best Ohio team remains the '63-'64 version. Finished 21-6. Played a tough non-conference schedule. Won the MAC. In the NCAA tournament, beat Louisville and Kentucky before losing to Michigan in the Elite 8.

The '64-'65 team also distinguished itself. Also played a tough non-conf schedule. Finished with 19 wins and a MAC title. Lost by a point in the opening NCAA game.

The '69-'70 team also was special. Like those earlier Snyder teams, played a tough non-conf schedule. Finished 20-5 and finished ranked in the AP's Top 25.
Thanks, Mike. I don't have to elaborate at all. You've captured my sentiments exactly. I actually don't see how anyone can argue against the '63-'64 being OHIO's best. If that darn free throw had gone in in 2012 there might be an argument. I hope to live to see some team best the 1964 NCAA tournament run, but as things stand now they are our best ever.
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JSF
3/17/2022 5:52 PM
Admittedly, I hoped this game would be at Rice.
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Pataskala
3/17/2022 9:25 PM
We might be the MAC's last hope for a post-season win this year. Toledo and Kent have already gone down in their tournaments and I don't give Akron much of a chance vs UCLA tonight. With his Cincy background Cronin is probably onto Groce's March magic at Ohio.

BTW, The Basketball Classic is no better off than the CIT was. It's supposed to be a 32-team field but they could come up with only 21 teams that wanted to play, and one of those -- UMBC -- had to cancel its game; when they got together on Monday for the first time since their conference tourney they realized they didn't have enough healthy players to field a team. "Third-rate tournament" would be giving them too much credit.
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Cellis033
3/18/2022 12:17 AM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
We might be the MAC's last hope for a post-season win this year. Toledo and Kent have already gone down in their tournaments and I don't give Akron much of a chance vs UCLA tonight. With his Cincy background Cronin is probably onto Groce's March magic at Ohio.

BTW, The Basketball Classic is no better off than the CIT was. It's supposed to be a 32-team field but they could come up with only 21 teams that wanted to play, and one of those -- UMBC -- had to cancel its game; when they got together on Monday for the first time since their conference tourney they realized they didn't have enough healthy players to field a team. "Third-rate tournament" would be giving them too much credit.
Akron blew an 8 point lead to lose to UCLA. We are the only hope
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oubobcatjohn
3/18/2022 11:51 AM
Going to these post season tournaments also lets recruits know that we are willing to pay to play in these tournaments. Instead of players hitting the transfer portal we are playing games. It also says we reached the postseason while Buffalo did not. In football making bowls matters with recruiting.
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Pataskala
3/18/2022 1:41 PM
Cellis033 wrote:expand_more
We might be the MAC's last hope for a post-season win this year. Toledo and Kent have already gone down in their tournaments and I don't give Akron much of a chance vs UCLA tonight. With his Cincy background Cronin is probably onto Groce's March magic at Ohio.

BTW, The Basketball Classic is no better off than the CIT was. It's supposed to be a 32-team field but they could come up with only 21 teams that wanted to play, and one of those -- UMBC -- had to cancel its game; when they got together on Monday for the first time since their conference tourney they realized they didn't have enough healthy players to field a team. "Third-rate tournament" would be giving them too much credit.
Akron blew an 8 point lead to lose to UCLA. We are the only hope
Help me, OUbi Wan.
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Alan Swank
3/18/2022 3:48 PM
Cellis033 wrote:expand_more
We might be the MAC's last hope for a post-season win this year. Toledo and Kent have already gone down in their tournaments and I don't give Akron much of a chance vs UCLA tonight. With his Cincy background Cronin is probably onto Groce's March magic at Ohio.

BTW, The Basketball Classic is no better off than the CIT was. It's supposed to be a 32-team field but they could come up with only 21 teams that wanted to play, and one of those -- UMBC -- had to cancel its game; when they got together on Monday for the first time since their conference tourney they realized they didn't have enough healthy players to field a team. "Third-rate tournament" would be giving them too much credit.
Akron blew an 8 point lead to lose to UCLA. We are the only hope
Akron didn't blow anything. UCLA got hot and Freeman got in foul trouble. They have everyone back and will be the odds on preseason favorite to win the MAC. Freeman will be first team every year till he graduates.
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RufusCat09
3/18/2022 6:04 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
We might be the MAC's last hope for a post-season win this year. Toledo and Kent have already gone down in their tournaments and I don't give Akron much of a chance vs UCLA tonight. With his Cincy background Cronin is probably onto Groce's March magic at Ohio.

BTW, The Basketball Classic is no better off than the CIT was. It's supposed to be a 32-team field but they could come up with only 21 teams that wanted to play, and one of those -- UMBC -- had to cancel its game; when they got together on Monday for the first time since their conference tourney they realized they didn't have enough healthy players to field a team. "Third-rate tournament" would be giving them too much credit.
Akron blew an 8 point lead to lose to UCLA. We are the only hope
Akron didn't blow anything. UCLA got hot and Freeman got in foul trouble. They have everyone back and will be the odds on preseason favorite to win the MAC. Freeman will be first team every year till he graduates.
And Toledo returns it's starting 5 as well.
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Taiwan BC
3/18/2022 10:06 PM
Look, I like playing the "What if" game as much as anyone, but I gotta believe some things will change for both those teams by the time next year comes around. Heck, we lost our top scorer, top rebounder, and top defender from last year and we didn't lose any of them to graduation or transfer.

Maybe Freeman moves on to bigger and better things like Coach Groce did when he went to Illinois?

Maybe Ryan Rollins loses faith in his coach and heads to another school ala Marreon Jackson

Maybe Carry returns to earth and goes from being an excellent player to just "good" IE: the MAC tourney.

It will be interesting to see, no doubt!

GO BOBCATS! Beat Rice! (I live in Taiwan so, I've had enough of it!)
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OhioCatFan
3/18/2022 10:13 PM

 

RufusCat09 wrote:expand_more
We might be the MAC's last hope for a post-season win this year. Toledo and Kent have already gone down in their tournaments and I don't give Akron much of a chance vs UCLA tonight. With his Cincy background Cronin is probably onto Groce's March magic at Ohio.

BTW, The Basketball Classic is no better off than the CIT was. It's supposed to be a 32-team field but they could come up with only 21 teams that wanted to play, and one of those -- UMBC -- had to cancel its game; when they got together on Monday for the first time since their conference tourney they realized they didn't have enough healthy players to field a team. "Third-rate tournament" would be giving them too much credit.


Akron blew an 8 point lead to lose to UCLA. We are the only hope

Akron didn't blow anything. UCLA got hot and Freeman got in foul trouble. They have everyone back and will be the odds on preseason favorite to win the MAC. Freeman will be first team every year till he graduates.



And Toledo returns it's starting 5 as well.
 

And, OHIO is just chopped liver! frown

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71 BOBCAT
3/19/2022 8:24 AM
Excellent point Taiwan BC







GO BOBCAT
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FearLeon
3/19/2022 9:18 AM
Taiwan BC wrote:expand_more
Look, I like playing the "What if" game as much as anyone, but I gotta believe some things will change for both those teams by the time next year comes around. Heck, we lost our top scorer, top rebounder, and top defender from last year and we didn't lose any of them to graduation or transfer.

Maybe Freeman moves on to bigger and better things like Coach Groce did when he went to Illinois?

Maybe Ryan Rollins loses faith in his coach and heads to another school ala Marreon Jackson

Maybe Carry returns to earth and goes from being an excellent player to just "good" IE: the MAC tourney.

It will be interesting to see, no doubt!

GO BOBCATS! Beat Rice! (I live in Taiwan so, I've had enough of it!)
And if the MAC loses these caliber of players on a consistent basis, it will have a tough time becoming relevant again as a conference.
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71 BOBCAT
3/19/2022 11:05 AM
This fact just blew my mind!

Jim Christian doing the play by play of our game. He must need the money as he still has not surfaced anywhere, coaching wise.




GO BOBCATS
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Recovering Journalist
3/19/2022 11:19 AM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
This fact just blew my mind!

Jim Christian doing the play by play of our game. He must need the money as he still has not surfaced anywhere, coaching wise.




GO BOBCATS
He'd have to be catastrophically bad with finances if he needs any money. He's made well over $10 million from coaching. I suspect he just likes being around the game.
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Pataskala
3/19/2022 1:46 PM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
This fact just blew my mind!

Jim Christian doing the play by play of our game. He must need the money as he still has not surfaced anywhere, coaching wise.




GO BOBCATS
He'd have to be catastrophically bad with finances if he needs any money. He's made well over $10 million from coaching. I suspect he just likes being around the game.
Or maybe he's auditioning for ESPN.
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Diamond Cat
3/19/2022 2:04 PM
Little under the weather and feeling lazy today. Anyone update me on BVP making any announcement? I'm sure it is in here somewhere but don't feel like combing thru posts.
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Cellis033
3/19/2022 3:01 PM
Diamond Cat wrote:expand_more
Little under the weather and feeling lazy today. Anyone update me on BVP making any announcement? I'm sure it is in here somewhere but don't feel like combing thru posts.
I will definitely give an update if I hear something official.
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JSF
3/19/2022 4:56 PM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
This fact just blew my mind!

Jim Christian doing the play by play of our game. He must need the money as he still has not surfaced anywhere, coaching wise.
He’s getting paid around $1.5 million to not coach.
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LuckySparrow
3/19/2022 6:43 PM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
This fact just blew my mind!

Jim Christian doing the play by play of our game. He must need the money as he still has not surfaced anywhere, coaching wise.




GO BOBCATS
That sure is something.
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GraffZ06
3/19/2022 8:16 PM
We're up 1 at the half. If anybody cares.
Last Edited: 3/19/2022 8:16:53 PM by GraffZ06
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