YES!

Any stupid poll notwithstanding, 'Nova was #1 that year.  That's why we play the tournament!

+1

Agree with the others. If you went by the philosophy of ranking teams according to the round they reached,  you'd be leaving Duke and Missouri out of the top 25.

I would certainly hope that if we are in the top 25 at the end of the regular season and do not win the MAC tournament, that we would still get an at large bid.

It did. They dropped.

Andy Roddick beat Roger Federer at Key Biscayne. Please make the case Andy should be ranked ahead of Roger. Because, by this logic, he should be.

So then where does that put Akron? They finished ahead of us in the standings, after all. Shouldn't they at least be getting votes?

You're going to have a hard time convincing me Louisville is a top four team, for instance. I think going down the line doesn't respect the chaotic, random nature of tournaments nor how they are structured. Play that tournament again and probably at least half the Sweet Sixteen is composed of different teams. Are we better than Creighton simply because we had the benefit of the draw and ran into the #1 seed one round later? Because I have little doubt they would have dispatched USF.

I get that it "counts the most" and should be given more weight. It just shouldn't be given all the weight.

The more expand a knockout tournament, the more randomness you introduce. It's a less meaningful way of determining quality. You'll get more things like Kendall Marshall breaking his wrist and wrecking a team's chance.

Jeff--I get the randomness.  But so much is randomness--injuries, officiating, coaching, how it caroms off the rim or backboard, etc.  In the end, you is who you is and you achieve what you achieve.  'Cats--pretty much.  'kron--just 'kron.

JSF reaching to make a point by referencing 'kron.  We need to end this thread.

 

 No, I don't think it's nonsense.  You want to get into all sorts of hypotheticals about what might have happened if player X hadn't been injured, or if player Y hadn't fouled out, etc.  It's like saying the French might have repelled Germany if Hitler had attacked the Maginot Line.  It didn't happen.  If Walt makes his FT, or if DJ pulls back instead of attempting the layup that was blocked and Ohio wins, we are the better team.  We might not have been the better team if Marshall had played, but he didn't.  


 

No . . . we lost.  Almost only counts, as Fred Taylor used to say, in horseshoes and hand grenades.  His teams lost twice in the NCAA finals to UC.  OSU was favored both times.  UC was the best team those years, and the National Champion.  The next year it was the upstart Loyola Ramblers, who lost to BG in the regular season; if they'd lost in the NCAA tourney to BG, who knows, BG might have been National Champs.  It didn't happen.

 

We deserve to be ranked higher, because we finished higher in the NCAA Tournament! 

 

 Not really.  We are saying that there is a standard -- called the NCAA tournament  -- and it determines how good you are at the end of the season.  Doesn't mean that other teams aren't better at some other given point in time, but results on the court are all that matters when it comes to tourney time.

 
 I'd still think it was wrong, but I would probably bite my tongue and enjoy the injustice.  

This thread proves only one thing that most around here already know:  that Monroe and OCF are sometimes off their rockers.

The NCAA Tournament seldomely crowns the best team.  UConn was not the best team last year.  They were the hottest team in the Tourney though.

We beat Michigan.  It was awesome.  It was also an absolutely perfect matchup for us.  Their strength (3 point shooting) vs our strength (3 point defense).  USF was good, but they were hardly an elite team and they finished AHEAD of Louisville in the Big East.  JSF's Creighton example is spot-on.  Matchups and timing.

Norfolk State and Lehigh are not better than Michigan, UConn, Wichita State, UNLV, Notre Dame, Virginia, San Diego State, or Saint Mary's just because they made it a round further.  BTW, how did Norfolk State do against Florida?

#25 for us is great.  We should not have been #14-#18.

I know that it will be difficult for you to understand this, bozocat, but it's as simple as what William Felton Russell said: 'The best team always wins."

Most will right off realize who this Russell person is and what he accomplished. Or google to find these things out. You, will be too busy with gratuitous potshots to understand, of course. As usual.