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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:15 PM
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APD isn't even actively searching for the dude anymore


APD isn't exactly known for giving a damn/screwing around too much.

I still remember when we had the one guy threatening to jump off of everything high in Athens in 2008 (before he finally just shot himself).  OUPD spent half a day talking him down from a ledge in Baker, APD tasered his ass and arrested him when he tried it on the parking deck.


They could have played the game at a branch campus with a court, but then EMU would have had the home court advantage in front of a crowd of about 50.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:32 PM
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I agree that it was an over-reaction but it's understandable given the shootings at schools and elsewhere lately. Helps to show parents that Ohio is looking out for their kids.  And it keeps the University's liability insurance carrier and lawyers happy.

After seeing the "Fugitive Fest" story, I'll change one thing -- although it helps to show parents that Ohio is looking out for their kids, the kids'll still do what kids do.
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I say we keep pointing the fingers at the administrators when we don't know what information they possesed and time constraints they had to make the decisions. In every situation, fingers must be pointed and scapegoats for unfortunate situations must be found. If no one can be found to blame, let's blame all Americans for their lack of character and/or moral fiber.

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As a student, I didn't once feel threaten or in danger at anytime. I was in Baker until 12:20 and none was even talking about it. I left to go to shively for lunch with a friends when we found out classes were cancelled. It pretty much turned into a wednesday too a saturday in about 20 minutes. biggest waste of an excuse out of school....
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I am so pissed! I didn't get this news and just drove an hour and a half from columbus for the game! I'm sitting in the convo parking lot right now! They are towing tons of vehicles in this lot. I was going to just park and walk uptown to get something to eat, but I'm afraid my car will get towed.


I feel for you...but seriously, how could you not know that the game was canceled? It was all over the place today! All season ticket holders even received an email. Have you been living under a rock?
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Marty Paulins strikes again.  You think they would at least be a little lax on bringing out the hook in that lot given the confusion that comes with the fact that the game got canceled.

Wait, no you wouldn't.  The parking employees probably will brandish a handgun too if you don't cooperate.
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I am so pissed! I didn't get this news and just drove an hour and a half from columbus for the game! I'm sitting in the convo parking lot right now! They are towing tons of vehicles in this lot. I was going to just park and walk uptown to get something to eat, but I'm afraid my car will get towed.


I feel for you...but seriously, how could you not know that the game was canceled? It was all over the place today! All season ticket holders even received an email. Have you been living under a rock?


For the record, I am a season ticket holder and I did not receive an email.
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I am just curious has Loyola of Chicago, St John's or Columbia in NYC, Georgia Tech in Atlanta, USC or UCLA in Los Angeles, among a plethora of college campuses located within large urban areas ever cancelled a game because an armed perpetrator may or may not be in the area? I don't recall ever hearing of such a thing.
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I am just curious has Loyola of Chicago, St John's or Columbia in NYC, Georgia Tech in Atlanta, USC or UCLA in Los Angeles, among a plethora of college campuses located within large urban areas ever cancelled a game because an armed perpetrator may or may not be in the area? I don't recall ever hearing of such a thing.


I'm sure these schools haven't. But I think we have to consider that Athens is a much different setting. Was it an overreaction? Probably. But these sort of things simply don't happen at OU. It's easy to see how panic could set in quickly.

Being around Athens today, it occurred to me the university administration was caught fully off-guard and does not have a plan for these situations. It makes me fearful for whenever their might be a real issue involving a gunman. The OUPD, APD and senior OU administrators do not know how to handle these sort of things - if only because they don't expect or have any experience with them.
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I am just curious has Loyola of Chicago, St John's or Columbia in NYC, Georgia Tech in Atlanta, USC or UCLA in Los Angeles, among a plethora of college campuses located within large urban areas ever cancelled a game because an armed perpetrator may or may not be in the area? I don't recall ever hearing of such a thing.


This was posted here earlier, but I'll repeat it:
The OSU spokes woman said that OSU has never canceled classes as a result of a robbery near campus. They didn't even cancel classes when someone robbed a bank in their own student union. (Source)

I was telling people at work about this and they all laughed and agreed it was an overreaction. They said that if Pitt closed every time there was an armed robbery in Oakland (the neighborhood where Pitt's campus is located), they would have never had classes.

I understand that things are different in in a urban versus rural setting, but I still think it was an overreaction.
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Keep in mind the decision to cancel or post pone the game had to be made almost immediately because EMU was ready to get out of Dodge. They were asked if they could stay and play tomorrow and they refused.

So looking at the situation a few hours later it seems logical to continue with the game tonight but by this point the opposing team is half way to Ypsilanti.

If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the Eagles.


Nope. Pretty sure I'm not mad at EMU for this decision. My guess is they came ready to play.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 8:34 PM
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I am so pissed! I didn't get this news and just drove an hour and a half from columbus for the game! I'm sitting in the convo parking lot right now! They are towing tons of vehicles in this lot. I was going to just park and walk uptown to get something to eat, but I'm afraid my car will get towed.


I feel for you...but seriously, how could you not know that the game was canceled? It was all over the place today! All season ticket holders even received an email. Have you been living under a rock?


It was an unusual day for me. I was in a training class for work from 8:30 to 4:00. I had my cell phone, but not a computer. I left immediately and headed straight for my car and on to Athens. I heard nothing on the radio on the way down. Now that I'm home, I'm cooled off a bit, but still frustrated.
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Keep in mind the decision to cancel or post pone the game had to be made almost immediately because EMU was ready to get out of Dodge. They were asked if they could stay and play tomorrow and they refused.

So looking at the situation a few hours later it seems logical to continue with the game tonight but by this point the opposing team is half way to Ypsilanti.

If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the Eagles.


Nope. Pretty sure I'm not mad at EMU for this decision. My guess is they came ready to play.


my point is, if they had stayed and left at their originally scheduled time (either late tonight, or early tomorrow morning) then maybe the situation could have been re evaluated before game time tonight.

All in all, its not a big deal, there's a new date in Feb and we'll play it then. Did OU over react? maybe. Are some people on here over reacting about OU over reacting? definitely.
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Im just mad because I was looking forward to listening to the game my last 2 hours at work. This is such a dumb move by the University to completely overreact, but whatever. Its over now so lets change the focus to Saturday
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With regard to my original post concerning had any colleges in big cities ever cancelled a game due to the same circumstances. Let me add a couple of points; first off I realize the current climate is very different than a few years ago However, though I live in the Columbus area now, I grew up in a small town the size of Athens, I can vividly remember a high school basketball game taking place down the street while there was a hostage crisis at a local carry out. Had the game been cancelled, the authorities would have had a much bigger problem on their hands due to the wrath of the townspeople.

Perhaps most distubring is the insinuation that the powers that be didn't know what to do. In my line of work, after Columbine we had extensive training on what to do in these sorts of situations and certainly after Virginia Tech, one would think that every college administration would know their plans backwards and forwards. The only silver lining to this situation is that perhaps in the future, when a truly serious situation emerges the administration will know what to do.
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I am just curious has Loyola of Chicago, St John's or Columbia in NYC, Georgia Tech in Atlanta, USC or UCLA in Los Angeles, among a plethora of college campuses located within large urban areas ever cancelled a game because an armed perpetrator may or may not be in the area? I don't recall ever hearing of such a thing.


This was posted here earlier, but I'll repeat it:
The OSU spokes woman said that OSU has never canceled classes as a result of a robbery near campus. They didn't even cancel classes when someone robbed a bank in their own student union. (Source)

I was telling people at work about this and they all laughed and agreed it was an overreaction. They said that if Pitt closed every time there was an armed robbery in Oakland (the neighborhood where Pitt's campus is located), they would have never had classes.

I understand that things are different in in a urban versus rural setting, but I still think it was an overreaction.


I agree...but on the other hand, I'm happy that Ohio's campus doesn't have robbery's at gunpoint enough to make it another day at the office like OSU, Pitt, St. John's, etc.
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Is there any chance the rescheduled game gets picked up by STO? It's the only MAC game scheduled for 2/20, and STO has been broadcasting Wednesday night games. I just checked STO's schedule for 2/20, and it's just a bunch of reruns. I gotta think they'd like to broadcast another game, especially one featuring one of the top teams in the conference.

I don't know anything about the MAC's contract with STO, but if they have the budget to pay the talent and production to broadcast another game, I hope they take advantage of it.
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It's very scary to think about, but I really don't know how the university's response was supposed to keep everyone safe. With every student out walking around and every employee in a line of cars, I feel like a covert active shooter wanting to go out with a bang would have a lot of targets to choose from since no one was in hiding.
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Suspect not likely still in Athens.....

http://woub.org/2013/01/30/ou-police-chief-armed-robbery-...
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Keep in mind the decision to cancel or post pone the game had to be made almost immediately because EMU was ready to get out of Dodge. They were asked if they could stay and play tomorrow and they refused.

So looking at the situation a few hours later it seems logical to continue with the game tonight but by this point the opposing team is half way to Ypsilanti.

If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the Eagles.


Nope. Pretty sure I'm not mad at EMU for this decision. My guess is they came ready to play.


my point is, if they had stayed and left at their originally scheduled time (either late tonight, or early tomorrow morning) then maybe the situation could have been re evaluated before game time tonight.

All in all, its not a big deal, there's a new date in Feb and we'll play it then. Did OU over react? maybe. Are some people on here over reacting about OU over reacting? definitely.


EMU's coach did what any coach would do. Get his team back to Campus, back to class, and get prepared for Saturday's game. Do you really believe that it's Eastern's desire to travel to Athens twice?
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Shawn Sellers wrote:expand_more
Keep in mind the decision to cancel or post pone the game had to be made almost immediately because EMU was ready to get out of Dodge. They were asked if they could stay and play tomorrow and they refused.

So looking at the situation a few hours later it seems logical to continue with the game tonight but by this point the opposing team is half way to Ypsilanti.

If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the Eagles.


Nope. Pretty sure I'm not mad at EMU for this decision. My guess is they came ready to play.


my point is, if they had stayed and left at their originally scheduled time (either late tonight, or early tomorrow morning) then maybe the situation could have been re evaluated before game time tonight.

All in all, its not a big deal, there's a new date in Feb and we'll play it then. Did OU over react? maybe. Are some people on here over reacting about OU over reacting? definitely.


EMU's coach did what any coach would do. Get his team back to Campus, back to class, and get prepared for Saturday's game. Do you really believe that it's Eastern's desire to travel to Athens twice?


If I lived in Ypsilanti (sp?) I know I'd take any excuse to get out of town, especially if it meant an extra trip to Athens!
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Posted: 1/30/2013 9:30 PM
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Keep in mind the decision to cancel or post pone the game had to be made almost immediately because EMU was ready to get out of Dodge. They were asked if they could stay and play tomorrow and they refused.

So looking at the situation a few hours later it seems logical to continue with the game tonight but by this point the opposing team is half way to Ypsilanti.

If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the Eagles.


Nope. Pretty sure I'm not mad at EMU for this decision. My guess is they came ready to play.


my point is, if they had stayed and left at their originally scheduled time (either late tonight, or early tomorrow morning) then maybe the situation could have been re evaluated before game time tonight.

All in all, its not a big deal, there's a new date in Feb and we'll play it then. Did OU over react? maybe. Are some people on here over reacting about OU over reacting? definitely.


EMU's coach did what any coach would do. Get his team back to Campus, back to class, and get prepared for Saturday's game. Do you really believe that it's Eastern's desire to travel to Athens twice?


If I lived in Ypsilanti (sp?) I know I'd take any excuse to get out of town, especially if it meant an extra trip to Athens!


lol. You make a valid point :)


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I say we keep pointing the fingers at the administrators when we don't know what information they possesed and time constraints they had to make the decisions. In every situation, fingers must be pointed and scapegoats for unfortunate situations must be found. If no one can be found to blame, let's blame all Americans for their lack of character and/or moral fiber.

-The 21st Century Handbook to Life


Brian, you're posting with clarity again.
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"We've had a lot of calls from people who matched the description we provided"

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