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Posted: 1/27/2013 3:01 PM
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I just want nothing to do with St. Mary's.  A trip to California to play on a Friday or Saturday and then have to fly back for Akron on Wednesday, no thank you!
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Bobcats_828 wrote:expand_more

Here's the teams ranked in the top 150 of ESPN's BPI. ESPN picks the TV matchups, while a board of conference commissioners pick the non-TV matchups. It seems safe Ohio would be featured in the nine games on one of the ESPN TV networks and it would seem there's a good chance to get one of the ESPN or ESPN2 games (there are five of those and four on ESPNU).

HOME
Wichita State-13 (19-2)
Belmont-41 (17-4)
St. Mary's-43 (17-4)
Akron-47 (15-4)
Northern Iowa-68 (11-10)
Indiana State-70 (13-7)
Valparaiso-73 (16-5)
Murray State-103 (15-5)
Davidson-106 (13-7)
Oral Roberts-115 (12-8)
Utah State-123 (14-5)
Western Michigan-131 (12-7)
Western Illinois-132 (16-5)
Drake-136 (9-10)
Charleston-138 (14-7)
UIC-141 (13-8)
Wright State-143 (14-7)
Vermont-150 (13-7)

AWAY
Creighton-11 (17-3)
Illinois State-67 (12-9)
North Dakota State-69 (16-5)
Ohio-77 (15-5)
Stephen F. Austin-82 (16-2)
Denver-84 (11-8)
Detroit-91 (13-8)
Iona-102 (13-7)
Weber State-105 (13-5)
Evansville-109 (12-9)
Canisius-114 (13-7)
Pacific-117 (12-8)
Eastern Kentucky-118 (16-5)
Loyold (Md.)-119 (15-6)
south Dakota State-124 (16-6)
Northwestern State-128 (12-6)
Charleston Southern-129 (12-6)
Bradley-130 (12-9)
Green Bay-139 (11-10)
Montana-142 (14-4)

Some of these vary quite a bit from the RPI. Obviously, Ohio ranks higher in ESPN's BPI than in the RPI.

Wichita State clearly is the No. 1 home team and can't play either of the top two away teams because of being in the same conference. Because of that, I wouldn't count out Ohio getting that game. North Dakota State is a possibility for the Shockers, but they easily could be in third place in their conference by the time this game comes around. Stephen F. Austin comes from a pretty lowly regarded conference, but SFA did win at Oklahoma. Yesterday's loss to Northwestern State hurt them.

I'd bet Creighton gets matched up with St. Mary's. Could be Belmont or Akron, I suppose, but the name recognition probably makes Creighton-St. Mary's more likely, in my opinion. I think Northern Iowa's sub-.500 conference record drops them.



I think Creighton played Akron at home this year. I couldn't see Creighton playing them again. I can see them playing Saint Mary's or Wichita State. Which ever team doesn't play Creighton plays Illinois State. I can see us playing either Belmont, Indiana State, and Val with a small chance of playing Murray State. 

 

Creighton, Illinois State and Wichita State are all MVC which means they won't match up with each other.

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I just want nothing to do with St. Mary's.  A trip to California to play on a Friday or Saturday and then have to fly back for Akron on Wednesday, no thank you!


Kent struggled with that back in 2007. Lost in BG after flying to California and back.
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JSF wrote:expand_more
I just want nothing to do with St. Mary's.  A trip to California to play on a Friday or Saturday and then have to fly back for Akron on Wednesday, no thank you!


Kent struggled with that back in 2007. Lost in BG after flying to California and back.
Interesting
 

Anyone know what time of day (east coast time) a west coast tv tip for BB would be?

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I just want nothing to do with St. Mary's.  A trip to California to play on a Friday or Saturday and then have to fly back for Akron on Wednesday, no thank you!


Kent struggled with that back in 2007. Lost in BG after flying to California and back.
Interesting
 

Anyone know what time of day (east coast time) a west coast tv tip for BB would be?



Here's the TV schedule. It's unlikely either Friday game is on the west coast, since those would be 4 and 6PM local tips.

For Saturday the 11AM and 1PM definitely won't be west coast games. The 10PM definitely will be. The 3,4, 6 and 8PM games will probably depend on how many TV-worthy west coast games there are.

Right now it looks like St. Mary's is the only west coast home team deserving of a TV game, so they'll most likely play Saturday night at 10PM EST.

Friday, Feb. 22nd

Network Time
ESPN2 7 pm ET
ESPNU 9 pm ET

Saturday, Feb. 23rd

Network Time
ESPNU 11 am ET
ESPNU 1 pm ET
ESPNU 3 pm ET
ESPN/ESPN2 4 pm ET
ESPN/ESPN2 6 pm ET
ESPN2 8 pm ET
ESPN2 10 pm ET
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That would be hard for an east coast team to play at 10 PM their time.
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That would be hard for an east coast team to play at 10 PM their time.


That's what we did in the bracketbuster against New Mexico State. Started out great, but blew a big lead int he 2nd half if I remember. 
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I think they pick Creighton @ St. Mary's for the 10PM game. There aren't any west coast away teams close to St. Mary's RPI. It'd only be a two hour time difference from Omaha.
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That's what we did in the bracketbuster against New Mexico State. Started out great, but blew a big lead int he 2nd half if I remember. 


That was a road game, though, in Las Cruces. I believe JSF is referring to playing at 10:00 pm somewhere in the eastern timezone.
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That's what we did in the bracketbuster against New Mexico State. Started out great, but blew a big lead int he 2nd half if I remember. 


That was a road game, though, in Las Cruces. I believe JSF is referring to playing at 10:00 pm somewhere in the eastern timezone.


No, playing 7 PM West Coast is like playing 10 PM Eastern time. Takes more than a day to adjust to such a big difference.
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That New Mexico State game.... yuck. Jumped out to an 18 point lead at halftime only to blow it. KVK and Leon fouled out, so we had to wheel out Matt Annen against their towering front line. I think that game started at midnight eastern time.

I think we will definitely get one of the TV games. I think our reputation as last year's Cinderella certainly helps us get a desirable TV slot, although we're a few rungs down on the ladder. It's easy to believe that a pairing like Ohio-Murray State would receive a better time and channel than EKU-Akron, even though the latter teams having higher rankings.
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I remember trying to stay awake for that NMSU game, following it online. I was unsuccessful.
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That's what we did in the bracketbuster against New Mexico State. Started out great, but blew a big lead int he 2nd half if I remember.


That was a road game, though, in Las Cruces. I believe JSF is referring to playing at 10:00 pm somewhere in the eastern timezone.


No, playing 7 PM West Coast is like playing 10 PM Eastern time. Takes more than a day to adjust to such a big difference.
That NMSU game was even worse I believe, as tip was something like 10PM MST/midnight EST
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I think they pick Creighton @ St. Mary's for the 10PM game. There aren't any west coast away teams close to St. Mary's RPI. It'd only be a two hour time difference from Omaha.


Creighton is the marquee team for the event so I doubt they waste a 10pm time slot for them.   I think it's more likely that North Dakota State or possibly South Dakota State gets the trip to St. Mary's.  I think a Creighton-Belmont matchup is more likely.  If I had to guess I'd say we're going to draw Valpo.
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For a variety of reasons, I think Murray St or Valpo are OUr best draws.  Indiana St isn't bad, but the prior two have a little more name recognition, and that helps for the return game. 
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According to the Bracketbusters webpage today is the announcement date.  Wasn't there an announcement show last year on ESPNU?  I didn't see anything on the schedule for tonight.  

My predictions on the Match-ups, RPI listed, but I didn't go by straight RPI.  I think I avoided all conference match ups and most repeat games. 9 TV Slots and 13 televised games means 4 on ESPN3, but there are no times listed on the TV Schedule.

Friday 2/22
7 PM ESPN2 - Eastern Kentucky (76) @ Akron (69)
9 PM ESPNU - South Dakota St. (59) @ Wichita St. (17) - Nate Wolters gets SD St. the bump since theres only 1 sub 50 road team.

Saturday 2/23
11 AM ESPNU - Iona (106) @ Western Michigan (93)
1 PM ESPNU - North Dakota St. (58) @ Indiana St. (51)
3 PM ESPNU - Detroit (86) @ Murray St. (96)
4 PM ESPN2 - Ohio (97) @ Valparaiso (85)
6 PM ESPN - Creighton (29) @ Belmont (14) - Two highest rated teams in the RPI.
8 PM ESPN2 - Stephen F Austin (77) @ St. Mary's (60) - Someone has to play @ St. Mary's
10 PM ESPN2 - Montana (113) @ 104 - Long Beach St. (104) - Big Sky #1 vs. Big West #1 plus another West Coast game.

ESPN3 Games
Northwestern St. (101) @ Tennessee St. (98)
Evansville (110) @  Oral Roberts (99)
Denver (121) @ Northern Iowa (100)
Canisius (124) @ Davidson (114)


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I looked at the site and saw they have posted the "non-televised" games...I looked quickly, so I am not 100% sure, but I believe that only Ohio and Akron will be on TV from the MAC.

Non-TV Matchups

Road Team Home Team Travel Reservations Boston
University Am. East Loyola-Maryland Metro Atlantic Book Hotel, Wisconsin-Milwaukee George Mason College of Charleston Kent State Indiana State Illinois State UNC-Wilmington Big Sky UC Santa Barbara Big West Utah State Western Michigan North Dakota State Western Illinois Charleston Southern Big South Tennessee Tech Coastal Carolina Stony Brook UT San Antonio Georgia State Eastern Michigan Green Bay Northwestern State Youngstown State Austin Peay More...

http://espnbracketbusters.com/site/about/tv-schedule?id=12
 
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I looked at the site and saw they have posted the "non-televised" games...I looked quickly, so I am not 100% sure, but I believe that only Ohio and Akron will be on TV from the MAC.

Non-TV Matchups

Road Team Home Team Travel Reservations Boston
University Am. East Loyola-Maryland Metro Atlantic Book Hotel, Wisconsin-Milwaukee George Mason College of Charleston Kent State Indiana State Illinois State UNC-Wilmington Big Sky UC Santa Barbara Big West Utah State Western Michigan North Dakota State Western Illinois Charleston Southern Big South Tennessee Tech Coastal Carolina Stony Brook UT San Antonio Georgia State Eastern Michigan Green Bay Northwestern State Youngstown State Austin Peay More...

http://espnbracketbusters.com/site/about/tv-schedule?id=12
 


Not sure where that list was pulled from but they have a bunch of teams that aren't even involved in the BB this year like Butler and George Mason.   
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No OHIO, Akron or Buffalo on that list.  UB probably an ESPN3 game if the list is true.
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I looked at the site and saw they have posted the "non-televised" games...I looked quickly, so I am not 100% sure, but I believe that only Ohio and Akron will be on TV from the MAC.

Non-TV Matchups

Road Team Home Team Travel Reservations Boston
University Am. East Loyola-Maryland Metro Atlantic Book Hotel, Wisconsin-Milwaukee George Mason College of Charleston Kent State Indiana State Illinois State UNC-Wilmington Big Sky UC Santa Barbara Big West Utah State Western Michigan North Dakota State Western Illinois Charleston Southern Big South Tennessee Tech Coastal Carolina Stony Brook UT San Antonio Georgia State Eastern Michigan Green Bay Northwestern State Youngstown State Austin Peay More...

http://espnbracketbusters.com/site/about/tv-schedule?id=12
 


I saw that too, but that's last years schedule.  It doesnt list Buffalo and they have Tennessee St. playing Miami.
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El Gato Roberto wrote:expand_more
I looked at the site and saw they have posted the "non-televised" games...I looked quickly, so I am not 100% sure, but I believe that only Ohio and Akron will be on TV from the MAC.

Non-TV Matchups

Road Team Home Team Travel Reservations Boston
University Am. East Loyola-Maryland Metro Atlantic Book Hotel, Wisconsin-Milwaukee George Mason College of Charleston Kent State Indiana State Illinois State UNC-Wilmington Big Sky UC Santa Barbara Big West Utah State Western Michigan North Dakota State Western Illinois Charleston Southern Big South Tennessee Tech Coastal Carolina Stony Brook UT San Antonio Georgia State Eastern Michigan Green Bay Northwestern State Youngstown State Austin Peay More...

http://espnbracketbusters.com/site/about/tv-schedule?id=12
 


Those are last year's matchups. I saw that last night, got excited thinking it was this year's, but then realized it was last year's pairings. You can tell because it still has Butler listed as a participant from the Horizon.
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I think that might be last year's schedule - never mind - Emily Litella
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It also looks like we are a week early on the announcements...

http://espnbracketbusters.com/site/component/content/arti...

ESPN wrote:expand_more
ESPN2 will feature five BracketBusters games, while ESPNU and ESPN3 will each house four games. The 13 BracketBusters matchups will be announced Feb. 4 with dates, times and networks. The televised matchups are selected by ESPN, while a Committee of Conference Commissioners determines the additional non-televised games.

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The very same link says: BracketBusters Home and Away Teams (Matchups announced Jan. 28)
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Ryan Carey wrote:expand_more
It also looks like we are a week early on the announcements...

http://espnbracketbusters.com/site/component/content/arti...

ESPN2 will feature five BracketBusters games, while ESPNU and ESPN3 will each house four games. The 13 BracketBusters matchups will be announced Feb. 4 with dates, times and networks. The televised matchups are selected by ESPN, while a Committee of Conference Commissioners determines the additional non-televised games.



It's funny because if you look further down the article...

ESPN wrote:expand_more
For more information on Bracketbusters, please visit espnbracketbusters.com.

BracketBusters Home and Away Teams (Matchups announced Jan. 28)



Maybe they will announce the non-TV games, and not matchup the TV teams until the 4th?

EDIT: The ESPNU TV Schedule does have the bracket buster selection show set for 6:30 PM on 2/4.


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