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bornacatfan
3/27/2014 11:32 AM
the123kid wrote:expand_more
JS was on the 1 hour of class a week regiment.  Many football players also use this when they have already graduated and are just hanging around to play the fall season.  I would be interested to see how this plays into the budget.  I'm guessing the cost is still for a full scholly, but in reality it is costing OU a small portion of what it could.

It would make more sense to use the free tuition to work towards a masters degree, but that may not be the goal for him.  

 

I am not sure how they do that. NCAA guidelines require you to be a full time student to participate in a sport. 

 
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Joe McKinley
3/27/2014 11:41 AM
Borna - pretty sure if you are eliglble to graduate in your final semester of athletic participation you can take as few hours as necessary to earn your degree.

Our guy, non-scholarship, could've graduated after the first semester of his senior year or taken just a fun class, but chose to enroll full time the second semester in order to secure a dual major degree.
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Casper71
3/27/2014 11:44 AM
Perhaps, like TJ his knees were just too bad to play?  Not justifying quitting...he could have sat on the bench, watched and been a "team" guy.  Bottom line is neither TJ nor JS were able to finish out their careers on the hardwood.  They just took different ways of ending.  Is one way better than the other, that is the discussion and everyone has their own opinion?

I just say the guy was good for us for almost five years.  Sorry he left the way he did, hope he is successful and represents himself and the instution well in the future.

In closing, hope he has "NO REGRETS".
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bornacatfan
3/27/2014 12:03 PM
Joe McKinley wrote:expand_more
Borna - pretty sure if you are eliglble to graduate in your final semester of athletic participation you can take as few hours as necessary to earn your degree.

Our guy, non-scholarship, could've graduated after the first semester of his senior year or taken just a fun class, but chose to enroll full time the second semester in order to secure a dual major degree.

GOod call Joe

Academic Eligibility

Full Time Status for Practice and/or Competition

Student-athletes must be registered for at least a minimum, full-time program of studies as defined by the institution, which shall not be less than 12 semester hours each term. Exception: student-athletes in the final semester of the baccalaureate program and with less than 12 semester hours needed to graduate, may obtain written verification from their advisor to be enrolled in less than 12 hours.


 
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OhioStunter
3/27/2014 12:05 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
For the record, I responded to Stunter in a pm.  He asked a fair question and deserved a response.  I think that I gave him a pretty balanced, fair response.  But am quite sure that I'd draw the usual heat for it here, so will not put here what I wrote to him.

Thanks for the PM response Monroe. 

 
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OhioStunter
3/27/2014 12:10 PM
allen wrote:expand_more
We are somewhat communist, we try to control the media.



 
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Monroe Slavin
3/27/2014 2:57 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
Do you ever re-read your old posts?  You attack, attack, attack people and then pull your hand back in absolute horror when someone responds.  A couple of nights ago, you began a post with "I piss on…" when responding to another board member.  Half the time you start inane threads that I can only assume are alcohol or drug induced.  And when criticized, you allude to a prominent former board participant who allegedly agrees that the level of discourse has eroded.   Here's a tip, Monroe, quit sniffing his glue.  From my perspective, your seeming need for attention (example: continually responding to your own posts when no one else does) is alarming and really takes the fun out of this forum.









Dude, have a sense of humor.  'Piss on' was an attempt at hyperbole/humor.  Okay, so not your taste.  It wasn't directed at any member; it was directed to the topic.  You're reading what you want to see too much; read what's there.  Of course, I was responding--it's what this board is about.  The response was not about any one post or to any one poster/person.

If you assume alcohol or drugs, then you must get that it's a little fringe...an attempt to be offbeat.  Try to get the humor.  Otherwise, this board lacks much humor..boring.  Appreciate the literary stylings and wit , attempts at same.  See such as JSF, Brian Smith, Fake Jeff Mck, Recovering Journalist.

'Quit sniffing his glue.'  Hey, quit reading my posts if you don't like 'em.  Doesn't bother me.  Don't really need you to tell me who's right and wrong here.  Responding to my own posts offends?  Okay.  Ignore that if you don't like.  That you find that alarming is what's really alarming.

Thanks for being the arbiter of what's fun and what's not.  We all have been waiting for your sage blessing.

Sorry, but it's not an attack when I post and you disagree with what I state.

Also, I think it's fair to ask that you characterize my 'body of work' here with a reasonable representation of the truth.  Really think that attacking is my modus operandi M O? 

[There's one poster who I've directly and repeatedly attacked..and have attacked the mods re him or her.  I'll address that in another thread.  I think my attack there was very legit.]

I respond to what people write.  1) I respond instead of ignoring...it's a basic level of courtesy in a discussion.  2)  I respond to what they actually post, not to what I like to think that they wrote.  Stop letting your prejudices distort.

You're a lot better when you respond to the points which I state and with a bit of substance than when you blanket (without regard to what was said) slam.
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BillyTheCat
3/27/2014 3:17 PM
Monroe, save your breath, SBH has no grasp of humor. Keep being you Monroe, you actually breathe a little life into someotherwise dull people.
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JSF
3/27/2014 4:38 PM
I am glad one person recognizes I'm at least trying to be witty.
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Speaker of Truth
3/28/2014 11:51 AM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Borna - pretty sure if you are eliglble to graduate in your final semester of athletic participation you can take as few hours as necessary to earn your degree.

Our guy, non-scholarship, could've graduated after the first semester of his senior year or taken just a fun class, but chose to enroll full time the second semester in order to secure a dual major degree.

GOod call Joe

Academic Eligibility

Full Time Status for Practice and/or Competition

Student-athletes must be registered for at least a minimum, full-time program of studies as defined by the institution, which shall not be less than 12 semester hours each term. Exception: student-athletes in the final semester of the baccalaureate program and with less than 12 semester hours needed to graduate, may obtain written verification from their advisor to be enrolled in less than 12 hours.


 

There you go!  It happens quite a bit with all sports.  Take 1 hour of golf a week!

 
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Paul Graham
4/4/2014 10:31 AM
Per HustleBelt - Looks like Smith quit because of JC. Mentions that the university wasn't being "represented appropriately"...uh oh?!
Last Edited: 4/4/2014 10:33:04 AM by Paul Graham
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Bobcatzblitz
4/4/2014 11:55 AM
Now things begin to make sense. Jon Smith was a model kid at Ohio and a very important contributor to think he left because of something silly as in playing time or the CIT. Cmon mannnnn
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Bobcat-7.0
4/4/2014 11:58 AM
Men's basketball: Mixed feelings for top coach’s new gig

By Christian Hoppens

Jon Smith left the Ohio basketball program early because of Jim Christian, who on Thursday left Ohio to take Boston College’s head coaching job.

Smith said that Christian...

http://thepost.ohiou.edu/content/mens-basketball-mixed-fe...


Last Edited: 4/4/2014 2:57:45 PM by Ryan Carey
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LuckySparrow
4/4/2014 11:59 AM
It's easy for Smith to say all of this now.

I'm not sure I buy it.

 
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Bobcatzblitz
4/4/2014 12:14 PM
Why would he voice that if JC was still the coach? It also seems like he still actually cares about the program. The players all hangout at Jon Smith's house STILL and are still his friends that tells me quite a bit if they dont treat him like a quiter.
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LuckySparrow
4/4/2014 12:28 PM
Bobcatzblitz wrote:expand_more
Why would he voice that if JC was still the coach? It also seems like he still actually cares about the program. The players all hangout at Jon Smith's house STILL and are still his friends that tells me quite a bit if they dont treat him like a quiter.

All true. Just a theory, but it sort of seems like a built in excuse now for quitting the team. 

 
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Casper71
4/4/2014 12:29 PM
Sparrow et al, OBVIOUSLY something has been brewing for a while.  Don't know what it was and don't really care.  Just need to hope the returning guys and recruits can hold on for a week to give the new coach a chance to sit down with them and chat.  If they don' it's their problem.

OHIO just needs to move on with whoever is "IN"!
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GoCats105
4/4/2014 12:33 PM
This is all becoming clear. Christian never wanted to be here. It was all about getting away from TCU unscathed and into a better job than both TCU and Ohio. It's one thing that Jon Smith comes out with these statements. It's another when Setty tweets "blessing in disguise." There's something going on in that locker room that just hasn't been right.

Now I'm beginning to think the 2012-2013 team of Cooper, Offutt, Baltic and Keely, whom most people lambaste for not showing up in Denver in the NIT, were really just playing with what they had to work with. That's pretty impressive to me the more I look at it.
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Scott Allen
4/4/2014 12:49 PM
Bobcat-7.0 wrote:expand_more
The post 4-4-14
By Christian Hoppens
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And commit Tariq Owens, who intends to be released from his letter of intent to the Bobcats, said he won’t consider playing for Ohio now that Christian has left, as he doesn’t think there’s enough time for him to get to know the new staff.
Owens said he isn’t sure whether he’d consider following Christian to Boston College.
@c_hoppens
ch203310@ohiou.edu


And yet he is now opening up to potentially go to a staff he has never met before ...
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D.A.
4/4/2014 12:57 PM
To borrow Pete's idea from earlier this week, maybe the OZone needs to hold a rally on College Green for the team, hold up a boom box and play "In Your Eyes"?!  Or maybe get the 110 to play it while the Ozone serenades the players.

Actually, I made this suggestion a little tongue in cheek, but having pondered it a few minutes, I think this is a great idea, and will back it with a $250 donation. (assuming it isn't an NCAA violation, which I could clear with Dan Hauser)

If the O Zone sets up an impromptu rally for the team, thanking them for their season's effort and boosting their morale through the transition, I'll wire $250 to College Bookstore for purchasing supplies to make signs, banners and other support materials.

If the O Zone is down, then drop me a PM and we'll work on logistics.

 
Last Edited: 4/4/2014 1:15:31 PM by D.A.
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oldkatz
4/4/2014 1:01 PM
In the midst of all this chaos, who is watching the store? Someone has to be taking care of the current players and possibly keeping contact with the recruits, right?  Who is that?
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cbarber357
4/4/2014 1:21 PM
oldkatz wrote:expand_more
In the midst of all this chaos, who is watching the store? Someone has to be taking care of the current players and possibly keeping contact with the recruits, right?  Who is that?

Coach Fuss probably. Or Roderick or Schaus
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OhioStunter
4/4/2014 1:36 PM
I'm glad Jon explained himself. And in a classy way. The way he said what he said would give highly paid PR spokespeople a run for their money. Some may still call him a quitter and not forgive him for bailing on the team, and that's fine, I understand that. But he clearly had some standards that were not being met. And, while I don't necessarily agree with what he did, I do respect it. 

Oh, for the days when Jon leaving early was the biggest problem this program had...

 
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Bobcatzblitz
4/4/2014 1:40 PM
But once again totally out of character Jon Smith a senior is making things up. (sarcasm)
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Paul Graham
4/4/2014 1:53 PM
Jon Smith leaving before CIT = Quitter

JC leaving after two years to go from rich to super rich = doing what's best for his family

Why is it that our expectations of amateur athletes are so radically different than our expectations of their well paid overlords?
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