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Posted: 3/18/2013 10:13 PM
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you're not hearing me.

I'm not one of the negative, sky is falling, fire the coaches now types on here, quite the contrary. But I can't ignore this concerning trend I have seen all season.

I understand that this team has shown that they can play well in front of the Ozone and they can play well against teams with 100+ RPIs, but in each of their losses they looked lost, flustered, unprepared and disjointed. Why are they so consistent in how they lose? Why are we worse after halftime? Why can't we maintain a lead?

Robert Morris ran us out of their gym. Ditto Memphis. Ditto Belmont. I don't even want to mention Winthrop. How bout the 3 Akron games? Its not that we lost, its HOW we lost.

Weak, timid and unprepared should not be adjectives for this team. How does a 1000pt scorer get turned into a shivering pup that scores zero points in 3 games against Akron and won't drive to the basket even when the lane is open for fear of getting blocked, or worse, sent to the foul line?

Again, I'm not bagging on anyone or claiming a doomsday scenario, but nothing about the way this team has played top 100 RPI teams on the road this season has given me any confidence that they will keep it within 12 at Denver.

why will this time be different?


+1. I love our Bobcats, but this team just hasn't beaten the good teams, and this is a tall order to start now. Even Walt admits he's having a hard time getting up for this game, and Denver will be up. (No elevation pun intended.)

I say we lose tomorrow. Hope the boys prove me wrong.
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Posted: 3/18/2013 10:21 PM
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Robert Morris ran us out of their gym.


Gee, losing by three with less than two minutes to go constitutes "getting run out of their gym".

Every game is different. Every matchup is different.  And a lot of what you are claiming about us also applies to Denver.  You don't think they are a little down after losing to Texas State, a team essentially on the same level as Central Michigan, in their tournament?  Actually Texas State was "run out of the gym" earlier this year by CMU. 
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Posted: 3/18/2013 11:15 PM
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We open as 5.5pt underdogs.
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Posted: 3/18/2013 11:51 PM
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If it was Ohio +5.5, it's now jumped up to Ohio +7.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 12:23 AM
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Robert Morris ran us out of their gym.


Gee, losing by three with less than two minutes to go constitutes "getting run out of their gym".

Every game is different. Every matchup is different.  And a lot of what you are claiming about us also applies to Denver.  You don't think they are a little down after losing to Texas State, a team essentially on the same level as Central Michigan, in their tournament?  Actually Texas State was "run out of the gym" earlier this year by CMU. 


they were up 31-12 with 7 left in the 1st, sure they got a little slack and let us close the gap a little, but the lead was never in doubt.

Every game is different, but every loss is the same.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 7:49 AM
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Think Abreu is a  little jealous he doesn't get visit the mile high city? Sorry, couldn't resist...

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Posted: 3/19/2013 8:18 AM
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Robert Morris ran us out of their gym.


Gee, losing by three with less than two minutes to go constitutes "getting run out of their gym".

Every game is different. Every matchup is different.  And a lot of what you are claiming about us also applies to Denver.  You don't think they are a little down after losing to Texas State, a team essentially on the same level as Central Michigan, in their tournament?  Actually Texas State was "run out of the gym" earlier this year by CMU. 


they were up 31-12 with 7 left in the 1st, sure they got a little slack and let us close the gap a little, but the lead was never in doubt.

Every game is different, but every loss is the same.


I was there, when we were down three and played 32 seconds of great defense, that lead was very much in doubt.  Give RMU credit for hitting a fade away fall out of bounds contested 3 that was essentially the nail the in coffin.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 8:21 AM
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I am expecting us to start slow and perhaps not even get into a flow till the second half. The character of this team will show tonight.







GO BOBCATS
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Posted: 3/19/2013 9:00 AM
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I hope the Denver -7 is wrong but  I just don't think the team will be up for a game like this
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Posted: 3/19/2013 9:32 AM
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71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
I am expecting us to start slow and perhaps not even get into a flow till the second half. The character of this team will show tonight.







GO BOBCATS


Yes.....any sweet 16 octane left in the tank?

Stay tuned.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 10:11 AM
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RealTimeRPI has us losing tonight 79-66. That sounds about right to me. I expect a 10-15 point loss.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 10:19 AM
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I will watch the game and I will root for our Bobcats to beat Denver and make a magical run in the NIT!

But I know I will be nagged all day with the high probability that we won't win this game.  Just so many factors, a good Denver team, high altitude, short turnaround, and coming off a crushing loss.  I really hope the boys come together and finally beat a quality team on the road this year.  But unlike the Akron losses, I won't be crushed and won't be surprised if we lose.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 10:30 AM
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I'm listening to some John Denver for luck. Thank god I'm a country boy.

(?)
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Posted: 3/19/2013 12:05 PM
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Robert Morris ran us out of their gym.


Gee, losing by three with less than two minutes to go constitutes "getting run out of their gym".

Every game is different. Every matchup is different.  And a lot of what you are claiming about us also applies to Denver.  You don't think they are a little down after losing to Texas State, a team essentially on the same level as Central Michigan, in their tournament?  Actually Texas State was "run out of the gym" earlier this year by CMU. 


We lost.

As we did in basically every one of our biggest games.

Reality.

Now, we can discuss why.  But you need to deal with what our season has been.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 12:10 PM
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When I hear players talking about their "legacy", their mind is not in the right place. Any legacy discussion or thoughts is way after the season is over.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 12:31 PM
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I hope the Denver -7 is wrong but  I just don't think the team will be up for a game like this


Vegas doesn't create lines to correctly guess the outcome, but rather to make the action even on both sides.  Even action in most cases means profit (you have to bet $11 to win $10)

Lines move when something significant happens (injuries, weather, PGs getting arrested for trafficking) or to even lopsided action.

The spread against the Bobcats means more money is on Denver (home team, seeding, RPI/Sagrin/SOS/WAC v MAC/didn't just shoot miserably)

I'm not saying the Cats should be favored, but Vegas lines are not intended to be correct predictions of the outcome.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 1:30 PM
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Think Abreu is a  little jealous he doesn't get visit the mile high city? Sorry, couldn't resist...


HOW DARE YOU
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Posted: 3/19/2013 1:56 PM
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I'm listening to some John Denver for luck. Thank god I'm a country boy.

(?)


I've always found that to be a good mood song, so it can't hurt!
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Posted: 3/19/2013 5:35 PM
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I just got back from a mini Vegas vacation where I lost a $100.00 on our boys.  Ironically, my gut told me to bet on Akron, but I would have felt dirty (with the line and payouts).  The point I have here is Vegas is not always close to correct.  

If the boys can find their flow we have one heck of an opportunity to make a run in the NIT.  

I am excited for this game.  The biggest concerns are the quick turn around and elevation issues.  

Whenever I go to Denver I don't feel right for about three days.  Then again I am not a NCAA Division I athlete.  

At this point I am happy to see the boys play at least one more time this season.  
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Posted: 3/19/2013 9:27 PM
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Inside game is carrying us so far.  Keep feeding Reg, but soon they'll double him.  He needs to make sure he keeps his eyes out for open players.

Their motion offense worries me; we need to do a great job switching and communicating on D.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 9:43 PM
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Curious:  have we seen an offense that runs what Denver does?
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Posted: 3/19/2013 9:44 PM
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We should hire that ESPn analyst from Arizona to be our coach.  He is really doing a great job of describing how our defense is being deficient.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 9:51 PM
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We should hire that ESPn analyst from Arizona to be our coach.  He is really doing a great job of describing how our defense is being deficient.


Is it the same guy who has called us Ohio State twice?
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Posted: 3/19/2013 9:52 PM
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Other than a few bonehead moves, offense has been pretty good.  We'll be in good shape if we can cut off some of those dang layups.
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Posted: 3/19/2013 9:52 PM
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And calling us Ohio A&M!!!!!
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