Looks like the people who wrote the letters are not the only up tight people at Ohio basketball games....

I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone complain about the occasional Convo chants of "bullsh#t" after questionable calls, this has always seemed vulgar to me in a family environment while the "sucks" is rather tame IMHO.

First of all, you are comparing apples to oranges. Now, if he said to his wife "Wow, the Miami Redhawks really suck!" I'm sure she wouldn't mind a bit. Just today my boss asked if I was worried about the weather since I'm driving to Ohio tomorrow. I said "Yea, it's going to suck but I think it'll be ok." I had no problem with using that word and he had no problem hearing it.

I sense that some here are being hypocritical. We regularly refer to BGSU as BGSUcks on this forum. Several people calle OSU OSUcks. We have an entire thread devoted to the fact that Miami does indeed suck. In fact, people often report on the sucking feeling they encounter when they get closer to Oxford. How is this any different from what the students do? 


I actually think that people are being purposefully silly because I can't fathom how anyone cannot understand that the context of words is important.

Of course you would deserve to be fired if you seriously told a student they suck. You would also deserve to be fired if you told them they were stupid or ugly--yet "stupid" and "ugly" are not considered bad words and no one would mind if the Ozone called our opponents ugly. Your point doesn't even really make sense. Context does matter and everyone speaks differently based on the situation they are in.

My grandma would have a big problem if I told her she sucked, but if she came to a basketball game with me and I yelled at the ref that his call sucks she wouldn't even think twice. Why? Because she's a smart woman who understands context and isn't looking for something to be offended about.

HUH?  to the (the above statement)  What justification we can have?!!!

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I'm confused; are you saying it's okay to talk disrespectful about someone as long as it's behind their back?  When we say Miami Sucks*, we are saying that everything that represents the football team sucks.  That trickles down to every individual, does it not?  I could be misunderstanding your post, but that's just the impression I get.

(*Miami Sucks is a proper term around here, therefore justifiable to capitalize.)

What does this mean?

When you've played athletics, having someone say that you suck just bounces off you and you're amused by it. If you really sucked on a play or a game, you know it and try to get better. So if anyone thinks that is hurting someones feelings, they are mistaken.

Roar-room - I'm not an OSU fan.  Pretty simple what that means.  In my statement above I didn't want anyone to think that I was as it would have misrepresented my point.

LoganElm - I'm trying to get across the same point as many others.  There are different ways to say you suck and it will come off differently.  Somehow most who feel this is true have failed to see that the way it comes across at the BB games is exactly the connotation that they say is a poor use of the term.

I realize and knew when I first posted this would probably be a losing battle from my end.  Most everyone here is justifying their own means.  It reminds of an incident I dealt with in education.  I had a young man who drove a pickup truck to school.  He liked to enter and leave school at too high of a rate of speed (5mph limit).  After much discussion and warnings I had to take disciplinary action for the safety of everyone else.  Keep in mind that our school was K-12 so we had kindergarteners walking across a cross walk.  After handing out the discipline the student gets on his phone to his dad who was in my office within 10 minutes.  I explained everything to the dad who proceeded to tell me his son's truck couldn't go any slower because of mechanical reasons of some kind.  I told him I didn't buy that excuse.  He came across my desk and I honestly thought he would punch me.  I never flinched.  The discipline stood and both the dad and son were thorns in my side until he graduated.  Driving down the road I even got flipped off to as Dad went the other direction.  The real question is: Had his son hit someone and hurt or killed them, who's fault would it had been.  Mine!  They would have somehow twisted the situation around that I didn't properly supervise the situation at hand.  That's what has happened here!  At BB games it's OK to yell certain things that the whole arena hears and maybe even the home audience over the TV hears.  But to say it in the same way in other situations isn't OK.  I find a problem with the line of thinking.

I am done wasting my time writing on this subject and am therefore not posting again on the topic.  I read many posts before I posted and truly believe there are more than you think that would support my line of thinking.  I am a season ticket holder for FB because I generally don't hear this stuff at FB games.  I do not buy season tickets for BB because of what I have to hear.  I just don't get it!  I'd rather stay home and watch online, etc.  By the way I usually sit amongst the o-zone for FB games and frequently bring guests as young as 2 yrs. old.  The last few times I've been in the convo with these same guests I've questioned paying $20/ticket (as much as over $200 for 1 game) for that experience.  Can't I just come and enjoy the game?  Please don't tell me it is my choice to not come as I would like to come, but don't get that warm/fuzzy about the experience anymore and more importantly the experience of the young people I bring.  You also must know that I am a die hard BB fan, by far more than any other sport.  That should tell you something!

So long and may your "you suck" statements (and all other questionable ones) be fruitful for the benefit of Ohio University.  I don't believe they will. 

I happen to think when a call is, in fact, a BS call then it should be stated as such.  It is also okay to tell your kids they that they should not say BS even though the 110 and the O-Zone did and that one old guy who just leaned over and told his wife "that was a BS call" .

I'm tempted to make the drive down so you are not disappointed. 

In all seriousness, I am glad you admit to your thinking that a theatrical performance should have a similar crowd to a sporting event.

When I am on the Tower Side in Peden, I swear those people think they are at a Broadway show.

I am of the firm belief that the goal of fans is to give their teams the biggest advantage possible.  Part of that is heckling the hell out of the opposing team.  The idea that fans and in particular students have to be classy is totally crazy.  I think fans have to be intense and sometimes walk the fine line. In college and High school there should be some obvious limitations on the side of "Older" fans, but students shouldn't hold back.  Obviously I think some topics should be avoided, but to act like we should be at a country club is nuts.  If you get offended by a few very harmless chants....then I guess you avoid going to public places in general?  Avoid watching PG movies?  Live in a bubble?  Be home schooled?  Have 0 social life?