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Posted: 1/9/2014 11:01 PM
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It goes beyond just ticket sales. Sponsorships, TV, donations...it all plays a role. We just don't have the capacity it seems.


Very true.  Could we have our own broadcast deal or are we restricted based on conference?  And broadcast can mean online these days.  We could be charging for streaming and also sell ad time.  But then, if ticket prices are an indication...
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As I've mentioned before, we have the double whammy of smaller conference and not in or even near a large city.  You can find major conference schools in small cities with great support...and you can find non-major conference schools in big cities with great support.  But when discussing non-major conference schools in small cities, you'd be hard to find one better than Ohio.
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Posted: 1/9/2014 11:23 PM
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I don't think it is unfair or unhealthy to think wanting my school to want to compete and perform at the highest levels; or wanting coaches to want to stay instead of this being a "stepping stone."


I didn't say that. It's unfair/unhealthy to expect it, which you've previous indicated.
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It is only a pipe dream if you think we are all here rooting for Athens University or Southeast Ohio State University... If I did not believe that our name gave us an opportunity to penetrate markets in the entire state of "Ohio" I would also start calling us "Ohio U" and give up on the dream of Ohio Bobcats athletics helping to take this entire University to the next level.


We can brand ourselves as Ohio all we want. But when it comes to financial growth and stability we would need ticket sales. And when it comes to ticket sales we have to have a realistic business plan and that plan is impacted by location. We simply can not generate the ticket sales income (quantity and more importantly price) needed to sustain a program such as VCU, Gonzaga, etc.

We are not going to gain ticket volume by getting folks in Cincy or Cleveland or elsewhere to come in for weekday games on any regular basis. Even getting consistent flow from outside our immediate footprint for weekend games is difficult.

Now let's talk ticket prices and look at VCU and Gonzaga.

VCU hits as high as $5,000 per ticket for season tickets. Those are annual levels for tickets:
http://www.vcuathletics.com/tickets/Files/VCU_AP_SCS__SEA...

Want Gonzaga season tickets? Can't get them. Waiting list. But you can go to the San Diego game for $250 a ticket:
http://www.stubhub.com/gonzaga-basketball-tickets/?gcid=C...

A far cry from Ohio plans:
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/basketball/ohio-12-season-tick...
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/basketball/ohio-12-premium-sea...

We can dream all we want. But at some point we need to be realistic from a business standpoint,

Rod McDavis is not investing in Ohio Athletics for an immediate financial windfall from ticket sales at the Convo and Peden (speaking of immediate financial windfall, sponsors are putting up millions for naming rights to those)

Growing the Ohio brand as a major long-term investment in the entire University. Increased exposure for the University via Ohio Athletics provides this University stability moving forward as increased awareness of the school increases the number of prospective students and provides alumni a degree from a more widely known institution.

I have seen many on this board make the argument that raising ticket prices is necessary before we take another step upwards in the college ranks. I disagree completely. Ohio Athletics primary benefit to the University is not the revenue generated from ticket sales. Would the athletic program be able to do some positive things with the money we would generate if we were able to raise ticket prices? Absolutely. Is it worth the cost of losing fans who would not be willing to pay a higher cost? No way. It is a very well-known business model to give a product away to build brand following of customers.
Just last month, I saw this study published.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/12...
Our own Ohio University sports management program did a massive study relating to college football ticket prices. The consumer survey found that ticket prices were too high.

I believe that our AD is taking the strategic approach that getting people in the door cheap will build a loyal brand following that will provide a return on investment in the future... That return could come a number of ways... Merchandising, increased donations, future ticket purchases at a higher level, there are really quite a few possibilities.


...

Unless transportation as we know it drastically changes, Cleveland and Cincinnati are just too far for weeknight games. You left out the 3rd C and Ohio's largest city. Columbus is absolutely in range for weeknight attendance at Ohio Athletic events. We didn't pull 11,000+ for the Akron game last year without help from Columbus and we aren't going to push our average closer to 10,000 without pulling people from Columbus. We also won't fill Peden without pulling fans down on Saturday's from Columbus. But that isn't a pipe dream. We are already pulling fans from there and it is something that I hope we continue to stress.

So why do Cleveland and Cincinnati matter? What has been driving all these conference shifts. TV. Television Markets.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard Ohio University didn't have a TV market, we wouldn't be having this conversation because I would have donated 100 million to Ohio Athletics. If Ohio can build the "Ohio" brand we can penetrate the major Ohio markets. If we do that, we are in business to start getting a financial windfall from the TV revenue.

Cleveland, OHIO... Cincinnati, OHIO. Two cities with thousands of alumni and two cities where thousands of our current and future students live. That doesn't sound like a pipe dream to me.
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Posted: 1/9/2014 11:52 PM
Everyone always talks about how "cheap" our ticket prices are. Yet...

1. We broke the ticket revenue record for any MAC school last year, so clearly it's not that cheap.
2. We raise bloody hell when ticket prices go up.

So, just saying...
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Posted: 1/9/2014 11:53 PM
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Going back to the football/basketball thing...

Is there an example of a non-AQ program that has sustained consistent success in football AND men's basketball over 5+ years? Many of the examples cited have only seen success in one or the other.

If you look at both sports, perhaps WE are actually the best example? Crazy to think about...but we have 5 straight bowls and 2 NCAA Tournaments in 4 years and one NIT (along with NCAA wins). Can anyone think of a mid-major that can top this?? Cause I'm struggling...


Hawaiian brought up Utah. The basketball program has declined since Majerus left. And they're in the PAC12 now.

My immediate thought is BYU. Theyve even had a Heisman winner and won a national championship. I'm beginning to not include them in my mid major thinking though. 

Memphis seems like the perfect school to do it. How they can't succeed in football is beyond me. 

San Diego State is another program that comes to mind. 
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Posted: 1/10/2014 12:01 AM
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It is only a pipe dream if you think we are all here rooting for Athens University or Southeast Ohio State University... If I did not believe that our name gave us an opportunity to penetrate markets in the entire state of "Ohio" I would also start calling us "Ohio U" and give up on the dream of Ohio Bobcats athletics helping to take this entire University to the next level.


We can brand ourselves as Ohio all we want. But when it comes to financial growth and stability we would need ticket sales. And when it comes to ticket sales we have to have a realistic business plan and that plan is impacted by location. We simply can not generate the ticket sales income (quantity and more importantly price) needed to sustain a program such as VCU, Gonzaga, etc.

We are not going to gain ticket volume by getting folks in Cincy or Cleveland or elsewhere to come in for weekday games on any regular basis. Even getting consistent flow from outside our immediate footprint for weekend games is difficult.

Now let's talk ticket prices and look at VCU and Gonzaga.

VCU hits as high as $5,000 per ticket for season tickets. Those are annual levels for tickets:
http://www.vcuathletics.com/tickets/Files/VCU_AP_SCS__SEA...

Want Gonzaga season tickets? Can't get them. Waiting list. But you can go to the San Diego game for $250 a ticket:
http://www.stubhub.com/gonzaga-basketball-tickets/?gcid=C...

A far cry from Ohio plans:
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/basketball/ohio-12-season-tick...
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/basketball/ohio-12-premium-sea...

We can dream all we want. But at some point we need to be realistic from a business standpoint,

Rod McDavis is not investing in Ohio Athletics for an immediate financial windfall from ticket sales at the Convo and Peden (speaking of immediate financial windfall, sponsors are putting up millions for naming rights to those)

Growing the Ohio brand as a major long-term investment in the entire University. Increased exposure for the University via Ohio Athletics provides this University stability moving forward as increased awareness of the school increases the number of prospective students and provides alumni a degree from a more widely known institution.

I have seen many on this board make the argument that raising ticket prices is necessary before we take another step upwards in the college ranks. I disagree completely. Ohio Athletics primary benefit to the University is not the revenue generated from ticket sales. Would the athletic program be able to do some positive things with the money we would generate if we were able to raise ticket prices? Absolutely. Is it worth the cost of losing fans who would not be willing to pay a higher cost? No way. It is a very well-known business model to give a product away to build brand following of customers.
Just last month, I saw this study published.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/12...
Our own Ohio University sports management program did a massive study relating to college football ticket prices. The consumer survey found that ticket prices were too high.

I believe that our AD is taking the strategic approach that getting people in the door cheap will build a loyal brand following that will provide a return on investment in the future... That return could come a number of ways... Merchandising, increased donations, future ticket purchases at a higher level, there are really quite a few possibilities.


...

Unless transportation as we know it drastically changes, Cleveland and Cincinnati are just too far for weeknight games. You left out the 3rd C and Ohio's largest city. Columbus is absolutely in range for weeknight attendance at Ohio Athletic events. We didn't pull 11,000+ for the Akron game last year without help from Columbus and we aren't going to push our average closer to 10,000 without pulling people from Columbus. We also won't fill Peden without pulling fans down on Saturday's from Columbus. But that isn't a pipe dream. We are already pulling fans from there and it is something that I hope we continue to stress.

So why do Cleveland and Cincinnati matter? What has been driving all these conference shifts. TV. Television Markets.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard Ohio University didn't have a TV market, we wouldn't be having this conversation because I would have donated 100 million to Ohio Athletics. If Ohio can build the "Ohio" brand we can penetrate the major Ohio markets. If we do that, we are in business to start getting a financial windfall from the TV revenue.

Cleveland, OHIO... Cincinnati, OHIO. Two cities with thousands of alumni and two cities where thousands of our current and future students live. That doesn't sound like a pipe dream to me.


One thing I would like to see is expanded radio coverage to the major cities. Our alumni base is too big and too spread out to limit it to SE Ohio. 
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Posted: 1/10/2014 12:19 AM
BYU isn't much of a mid-major in my mind. They're always been (and still are) a national program with a national following because of the Mormon church. It's not readily available online, but I'd hazard a guess that their budget is 3x ours at least.

SDSU may perhaps be the best example you mention. They are relevant in both sports right now and have been for several years. You may find this surprising (I did), but their budget is $39 million as opposed to ours at $24 million.

Another one that comes to mind in Utah State. Traditionally good in basketball and now has a solid football team too. Maybe there's something about these West Coast schools?

These programs aside, most mid-majors follow the mold of NIU or Akron when you think about it. Immense success in one sport, miserable in another. A few examples to mull over:

Hoops Success
Memphis
UMass
New Mexico
New Mexico State
'Kron
Temple
Kent State

Football Success
Boise State
TCU
UCF
East Carolina
Fresno State
NIU
Marshall
Arkansas State
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Posted: 1/10/2014 12:42 AM
Think and dream a little bigger.  We can be more than we are.  Win a pretty good amount and have teams that we can love and bond with...football 2006....football 2013 not so much....hoops this year, yes.
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Posted: 1/10/2014 12:54 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
It is only a pipe dream if you think we are all here rooting for Athens University or Southeast Ohio State University... If I did not believe that our name gave us an opportunity to penetrate markets in the entire state of "Ohio" I would also start calling us "Ohio U" and give up on the dream of Ohio Bobcats athletics helping to take this entire University to the next level.


We can brand ourselves as Ohio all we want. But when it comes to financial growth and stability we would need ticket sales. And when it comes to ticket sales we have to have a realistic business plan and that plan is impacted by location. We simply can not generate the ticket sales income (quantity and more importantly price) needed to sustain a program such as VCU, Gonzaga, etc.

We are not going to gain ticket volume by getting folks in Cincy or Cleveland or elsewhere to come in for weekday games on any regular basis. Even getting consistent flow from outside our immediate footprint for weekend games is difficult.

Now let's talk ticket prices and look at VCU and Gonzaga.

VCU hits as high as $5,000 per ticket for season tickets. Those are annual levels for tickets:
http://www.vcuathletics.com/tickets/Files/VCU_AP_SCS__SEA...

Want Gonzaga season tickets? Can't get them. Waiting list. But you can go to the San Diego game for $250 a ticket:
http://www.stubhub.com/gonzaga-basketball-tickets/?gcid=C...

A far cry from Ohio plans:
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/basketball/ohio-12-season-tick...
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/basketball/ohio-12-premium-sea...

We can dream all we want. But at some point we need to be realistic from a business standpoint,

Rod McDavis is not investing in Ohio Athletics for an immediate financial windfall from ticket sales at the Convo and Peden (speaking of immediate financial windfall, sponsors are putting up millions for naming rights to those) 

Growing the Ohio brand as a major long-term investment in the entire University. Increased exposure for the University via Ohio Athletics provides this University stability moving forward as increased awareness of the school increases the number of prospective students and provides alumni a degree from a more widely known institution.

I have seen many on this board make the argument that raising ticket prices is necessary before we take another step upwards in the college ranks. I disagree completely. Ohio Athletics primary benefit to the University is not the revenue generated from ticket sales. Would the athletic program be able to do some positive things with the money we would generate if we were able to raise ticket prices? Absolutely. Is it worth the cost of losing fans who would not be willing to pay a higher cost? No way. It is a very well-known business model to give a product away to build brand following of customers.
Just last month, I saw this study published.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/12...
Our own Ohio University sports management program did a massive study relating to college football ticket prices. The consumer survey found that ticket prices were too high.

I believe that our AD is taking the strategic approach that getting people in the door cheap will build a loyal brand following that will provide a return on investment in the future... That return could come a number of ways... Merchandising, increased donations, future ticket purchases at a higher level, there are really quite a few possibilities.


...

Unless transportation as we know it drastically changes, Cleveland and Cincinnati are just too far for weeknight games. You left out the 3rd C and Ohio's largest city. Columbus is absolutely in range for weeknight attendance at Ohio Athletic events. We didn't pull 11,000+ for the Akron game last year without help from Columbus and we aren't going to push our average closer to 10,000 without pulling people from Columbus. We also won't fill Peden without pulling fans down on Saturday's from Columbus. But that isn't a pipe dream. We are already pulling fans from there and it is something that I hope we continue to stress.

So why do Cleveland and Cincinnati matter? What has been driving all these conference shifts. TV. Television Markets.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard Ohio University didn't have a TV market, we wouldn't be having this conversation because I would have donated 100 million to Ohio Athletics. If Ohio can build the "Ohio" brand we can penetrate the major Ohio markets. If we do that, we are in business to start getting a financial windfall from the TV revenue.

Cleveland, OHIO... Cincinnati, OHIO. Two cities with thousands of alumni and two cities where thousands of our current and future students live. That doesn't sound like a pipe dream to me.


One thing I would like to see is expanded radio coverage to the major cities. Our alumni base is too big and too spread out to limit it to SE Ohio. 

I agree. I was at the Kent game with my dad and my brother. Driving home, we flipped on Akron's postgame show while we had Russ and Rob up on a phone. With as good of a crowd as Ohio swings at Akron, at Kent and at the MAC tourney in CLE I think there could be legitimate demand for an Ohio radio broadcast in Northeast Ohio. We actually started thinking about how cool a postgame call-in show would be. I could see that being a logistical nightmare especially for roadgames but cool to think about.

With the ease of getting tv and radio on the internet these days, I wonder if we will (or already are) seeing less regional affiliate broadcast deals? The internet certainly hasn't hurt the thirst for television sports programming... It only seems to have fueled the fire.
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Posted: 1/10/2014 7:37 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
It is only a pipe dream if you think we are all here rooting for Athens University or Southeast Ohio State University... If I did not believe that our name gave us an opportunity to penetrate markets in the entire state of "Ohio" I would also start calling us "Ohio U" and give up on the dream of Ohio Bobcats athletics helping to take this entire University to the next level.


We can brand ourselves as Ohio all we want. But when it comes to financial growth and stability we would need ticket sales. And when it comes to ticket sales we have to have a realistic business plan and that plan is impacted by location. We simply can not generate the ticket sales income (quantity and more importantly price) needed to sustain a program such as VCU, Gonzaga, etc.

We are not going to gain ticket volume by getting folks in Cincy or Cleveland or elsewhere to come in for weekday games on any regular basis. Even getting consistent flow from outside our immediate footprint for weekend games is difficult.

Now let's talk ticket prices and look at VCU and Gonzaga.

VCU hits as high as $5,000 per ticket for season tickets. Those are annual levels for tickets:
http://www.vcuathletics.com/tickets/Files/VCU_AP_SCS__SEA...

Want Gonzaga season tickets? Can't get them. Waiting list. But you can go to the San Diego game for $250 a ticket:
http://www.stubhub.com/gonzaga-basketball-tickets/?gcid=C...

A far cry from Ohio plans:
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/basketball/ohio-12-season-tick...
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/basketball/ohio-12-premium-sea...

We can dream all we want. But at some point we need to be realistic from a business standpoint,

Rod McDavis is not investing in Ohio Athletics for an immediate financial windfall from ticket sales at the Convo and Peden (speaking of immediate financial windfall, sponsors are putting up millions for naming rights to those) 

Growing the Ohio brand as a major long-term investment in the entire University. Increased exposure for the University via Ohio Athletics provides this University stability moving forward as increased awareness of the school increases the number of prospective students and provides alumni a degree from a more widely known institution.

I have seen many on this board make the argument that raising ticket prices is necessary before we take another step upwards in the college ranks. I disagree completely. Ohio Athletics primary benefit to the University is not the revenue generated from ticket sales. Would the athletic program be able to do some positive things with the money we would generate if we were able to raise ticket prices? Absolutely. Is it worth the cost of losing fans who would not be willing to pay a higher cost? No way. It is a very well-known business model to give a product away to build brand following of customers.
Just last month, I saw this study published.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/12...
Our own Ohio University sports management program did a massive study relating to college football ticket prices. The consumer survey found that ticket prices were too high.

I believe that our AD is taking the strategic approach that getting people in the door cheap will build a loyal brand following that will provide a return on investment in the future... That return could come a number of ways... Merchandising, increased donations, future ticket purchases at a higher level, there are really quite a few possibilities.


...

Unless transportation as we know it drastically changes, Cleveland and Cincinnati are just too far for weeknight games. You left out the 3rd C and Ohio's largest city. Columbus is absolutely in range for weeknight attendance at Ohio Athletic events. We didn't pull 11,000+ for the Akron game last year without help from Columbus and we aren't going to push our average closer to 10,000 without pulling people from Columbus. We also won't fill Peden without pulling fans down on Saturday's from Columbus. But that isn't a pipe dream. We are already pulling fans from there and it is something that I hope we continue to stress.

So why do Cleveland and Cincinnati matter? What has been driving all these conference shifts. TV. Television Markets.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard Ohio University didn't have a TV market, we wouldn't be having this conversation because I would have donated 100 million to Ohio Athletics. If Ohio can build the "Ohio" brand we can penetrate the major Ohio markets. If we do that, we are in business to start getting a financial windfall from the TV revenue.

Cleveland, OHIO... Cincinnati, OHIO. Two cities with thousands of alumni and two cities where thousands of our current and future students live. That doesn't sound like a pipe dream to me.


One thing I would like to see is expanded radio coverage to the major cities. Our alumni base is too big and too spread out to limit it to SE Ohio. 

I agree. I was at the Kent game with my dad and my brother. Driving home, we flipped on Akron's postgame show while we had Russ and Rob up on a phone. With as good of a crowd as Ohio swings at Akron, at Kent and at the MAC tourney in CLE I think there could be legitimate demand for an Ohio radio broadcast in Northeast Ohio. We actually started thinking about how cool a postgame call-in show would be. I could see that being a logistical nightmare especially for roadgames but cool to think about.

With the ease of getting tv and radio on the internet these days, I wonder if we will (or already are) seeing less regional affiliate broadcast deals? The internet certainly hasn't hurt the thirst for television sports programming... It only seems to have fueled the fire.


A post-game call-in show would be great.
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Posted: 1/10/2014 10:38 AM

I’m not going to cut and quote all that is above – folks can read that as needed.  Plus, this is going to be long enough without that baggage.

 

In response to Optimist and others, I started to address various comments with respect to branding, marketing and the communications of Ohio and our athletic programs. 

 

Such as the fact that NO, you don’t build a brand by giving away the product.  You can generate product sampling, but that is not a brand, nor brand building.  In my 30 years of helping clients, uncover, articulate and deliver relevant, impactful brands in the marketplace, giving the product away does not play into it.

 

The mention of naming rights.  First, let’s all be aware that money is not going to the athletic department, but to the academic side.  Second, that effort has no value to those sitting in an arena and very limited value to those in the community.  I can assure you that as of next November, folks in Charlotte will refer to the Time Warner Arena as the “Hive” as the Hornets return.  This same scenerio is going to take place in Athens. No one will refer to the field name at Pedan (remember, we are not naming the stadium, but the field), and “Convo” will live on.  Where naming rights have value is in “broadcast” and other forms of communications. 

 

Which leads to the concern that Ohio is moving ahead with naming rights without (as far as I know), having a ten-year broadcast strategy in place.  As I mentioned in an earlier post, we need to look beyond broadcast as it is defined today, let alone 10 years ago.  Radio/Radio stations are on life support.  TV in 2014 is where radio was in 1956.  The next short-term generation is going to say, “you mean all you did was look a screen, you didn’t interact at all.”  Just as past generations talked about “you actually looked at the radio?”

 

The fact that we are worried about growing the fan base out of our footprint, when we don’t take steps to create a connection with fans within the easiest, and most valuable (long-term) customer base – our students.  Get a student to support and interact with a team while in Athens and you have a fan (and donor) for life.  It is why I suggested a few years ago that we hold “Midnight Madness” uptown – connect now, and you grow later.

 

But then I realized we have an even bigger issue than those points I just mentioned.  The reality is we do not have a brand.  We don’t. 

 

“OHIO” IS NOT A BRAND!!.  It is simply a name.  Just as Apple, Nike and Coke (or is it Coca-Cola) are just names.  A brand is more than that.  “Oh, but we represent the state of Ohio.”  First, that brand path is already occupied.  And second, that  in itself is also not a brand.  That is a definition, and articulation of what we are (or want to be), but not a description of who we are -- or what we stand for.  A brand is a promise of what we provide in a relationship with the customer.  A brand is an articulation of what makes us, and by association those that are part of us, unique.  Special.  Relevant.  A brand is the positive experience you have with it.

 

I have never heard a brand message, promise, whatever you want to call it, articulated by the University, Administraton, anyone on this board, Hell, I do it for a living and I never really gave it much thought.  But if we want to move forward we need to go through the process of uncovering who we are.   Steps, which I won’t bore you with, that would have the marketplace help define us (because companies/entities can deliver a brand, but the customer defines its value). 

 

In developing our brand (not name, brand), we also need to be aware of how others are perceived.  Because a key to a brand is differentiation. 

 

So what are our core competencies? What sets us apart?  I would content that part of it is that we zig when other zag.  We are the ying to their yang.  John Groce was revered.  I would content not because he won in March, but because he “got it.” He understood Ohio, just as Danny Nee did in the 80’s.  Both were a bit of renegades.  Not rebellious, but unique individuals.  Yea, he took us past the first round, but beating Georgetown was sweeter than beating a Georgia Tech.  Took down Georgetown – an establishment team.  Took down Michigan.  Yes the rival state, but also “one of them.”  Made it even sweeter.  He won, but he also oozed “Ohio.” – individuality wrapped in a community, passionate.

 

He also had that “screw you, we’re Ohio” attitude (an attitude I think Christian has as well).  Look at Frank.  Certainly respected, but not revered (despite considerable success, especially compared to history).  I would content he does not “ooze” Ohio. 

 

Look at VCU – Why did they open the bank for Shaka Smart.  Yes, he wins, but he also personifies who VCU wants to be: Intelligent, urban, cutting edge, youthful, hip.  Want to run an ad for VCU – put Shake in front of a camera.

 

We don’t have a brand, I have not seen it defined, and certainly have not seen one communicated – by the University, Administration, anyone.  Want some proof.  Look at those ridiculous promos we run during games. Yes, they are boring and poorly produced.  But they are also embarrassing. -- Embarrassing because they are like everyone else.   And we are not like everyone else.  (zig/zag, ying to yang). 

 

I’m not implying those competencies alone define us.  There is so much more.  Want to capture “OHIO,” put a few cameras on Court Street on Halloween and stream the video.  More alumni will watch part of that than any game versus any opponent.  Not because of the partying and alcohol (which is what the Administration sees), but because of the individuality and social “togethering” that is also part of who we are.

 

Bottom line, we can talk naming rights, call in radio shows, internet broadcasting, etc., etc., etc. all we want.  But until we define who we are and what we (and therefore, those that associate with us) are about, we are simply throwing mud at the wall to see what sticks. 

 

“OHIO” is not a brand.  It is simply a name, a moniker.  Who is “OHIO?”

 

Finally, I am going to move this post to a new thread because the topic has hijacked a thread that should be for Ric.  And it is doing a disservice to him.  God Speed in your recovery Ric.  Your passion, commitment and heart make us proud.

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Thanks CC

Surgery was supposed to be Thursday? I have not seen any tweets or press releases. Hope all is well and recrovery goes swimmingly. 

 
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Posted: 1/10/2014 6:16 PM
I'm glad on that front. It's really none of our business.
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Posted: 1/10/2014 6:47 PM
JSF wrote:expand_more
I'm glad on that front. It's really none of our business.



sometimes Drags ,,,you're kind of a douche. There are a lot of us who are wishing him well and have genuine concern. No different than sitting in church during the announcements and hearing of a speedy recovery or that things went well. It's kind of a community thing as some of us offer up prayers. Heck , here in East Central Indiana they still read the daily hospital announcements that tell who was admitted and who is recovering on the local radio....with HiPAA permission slips signed of course....
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Posted: 1/10/2014 7:00 PM
I wish him well and yet it's none of my business. We aren't entitled to that information if he doesn't want it out there.
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Posted: 1/20/2014 2:39 PM
Ricardo Johnson just tweeted "Update: Doctors went really well today. Keep doing the little things to make this process much better. 4 weeks! 🙏🏀👍😃 GOD is great! Love life"

Does this mean we may see him back this season?
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Posted: 1/20/2014 2:57 PM
He's working on a COMEBACK!! WISH HIM THE BEST!!
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Posted: 1/20/2014 8:03 PM
Bobcatzblitz wrote:expand_more
He's working on a COMEBACK!! WISH HIM THE BEST!!


Is this for real?
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Posted: 1/20/2014 8:36 PM
4 weeks until fit to play sounds unbelievable. I have no doubt though that Ric wants to play so bad he will be optimistic and eager about the prospects of playing again until the very last second of the last game played this year.  
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Posted: 1/21/2014 10:51 AM
Even if he can only suit up and walk onto the floor for a few seconds of game time for Senior Day, that would be a great moment for Ricardo.  He deserves that, in my opinion, and I really hope to see it happen.
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Posted: 1/21/2014 11:50 AM
100%Cat wrote:expand_more
Even if he can only suit up and walk onto the floor for a few seconds of game time for Senior Day, that would be a great moment for Ricardo.  He deserves that, in my opinion, and I really hope to see it happen.


The sad part is that senior day is after the students are gone for spring break.
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Posted: 1/21/2014 2:44 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Even if he can only suit up and walk onto the floor for a few seconds of game time for Senior Day, that would be a great moment for Ricardo.  He deserves that, in my opinion, and I really hope to see it happen.


The sad part is that senior day is after the students are gone for spring break.


What were the advantages of switching to semesters again?
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Posted: 1/21/2014 3:31 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
Even if he can only suit up and walk onto the floor for a few seconds of game time for Senior Day, that would be a great moment for Ricardo.  He deserves that, in my opinion, and I really hope to see it happen.


The sad part is that senior day is after the students are gone for spring break.


What were the advantages of switching to semesters again?


Everybody else was doing it.
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Posted: 1/21/2014 4:09 PM
NO choice on semesters.  The state made everyone do it!
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