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Posted: 1/21/2014 9:02 PM
Yup...in 2008 the Chancellor of the Board of Regents released the plan to have all Ohio institutions on semesters by 2012 as part of the Strategic Plan for Higher Education. Interesting reading. I am sure some here have some great insight into that process. 
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Posted: 1/21/2014 10:23 PM
Bad timing for Senior Day, but I'll certainly be in attendance. 

Ric's resiliency has been impressive. It's a pipe dream, but I hope he can get back out on the floor.

 
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Posted: 1/22/2014 12:04 AM
Ah yes...the Board of Regents...

I just took a look at their website -- specifically their press releases over the entire past 12 months -- and could not find one initiative of significance that positively impacted Ohio University students.

Several appointments and new hires, though.

If I am wrong or misguided, I welcome the enlightenment.

#SemestersRobSeniorsOfProperSeniorDay
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Posted: 1/22/2014 11:00 AM
I think depending on several factors, it's possible to come back from a broken leg in as few as 10 weeks, though it's not too likely. I'm sure that's the hope Ricardo is holding on to. It would get him back around the time of the MAC tournament.
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Posted: 1/22/2014 11:45 AM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
Ah yes...the Board of Regents...

I just took a look at their website -- specifically their press releases over the entire past 12 months -- and could not find one initiative of significance that positively impacted Ohio University students.

Several appointments and new hires, though.

If I am wrong or misguided, I welcome the enlightenment.

#SemestersRobSeniorsOfProperSeniorDay


The state does not set the calendar for the respective universities - each sets its own including breaks.  The interesting thing is that our semester is one week shorter than many if not all of the other schools.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 12:30 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
The state does not set the calendar for the respective universities - each sets its own including breaks.  The interesting thing is that our semester is one week shorter than many if not all of the other schools.


Interesting take.

I am trying to figure out from your wording if it means we have a week less of spring break or if it is one week earlier than the rest.

So given that the U's each individually set their schedules are you inferring that we should wait to set our academic calendar to rotate around the basketball schedule? If so ...when is the academic calendar set in relation to the MAC schedule. next, do we want the student body here more for the Senior Night or do we wnat them present for the MAC and NCAA tourneys?

I am not sure how we keep finding fault in scheduling no matter where things fall. In the past we have lamented the break falling on MAC Tourney week, Ncaa tourney week all the while not realizing that several other sports like Baseball, softball and others construct trips co inciding with their spring breaks. We are either a growing fan base that supports our Cats or we are not.

Spring break here in Indiana usually falls during the State Basketball tourney making travel plans move for many of those who have schools in Finals. Not so much of a problem now that we have begun the recruiting wars and The all Indy finals are taking over.....nobody in the rest of the state cares and fans that have gone for years as fans of HS basketball in general are not going to see teams of all stars from Indy.

All in all spring break has to go somewhere and my guess is the MAC schedule comes out a while after the academic calendars are set from year to year.....but that is only a guess.....
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Posted: 1/24/2014 3:30 PM
UC has  projected Academic Calendars out to 2019.  My bet is most academic calendars are set BEFORE the MAC schedule.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 3:45 PM
I've never had an issue with the quarter system, especially as it relates to athletics. The Fall Quarter ended basically when football season was over (no championship or bowl games to worry about back then). The break afforded a chance for seasonal work  (when most employers are looking for temporary help around the holidays) and much needed income. I also had the chance to head back to Athens over the break or to other parts of Ohio to catch OOC BB games.

When Winter Quarter started, so did the MAC schedule. It ended right about the time the NCAA Tourney started. So that was perfect timing for any post-season appearances.

I'm not sure why the Board of Regents had to "streamline" all university schedules. Has it really made college life better for students (athletic schedules aside)? If so, I'd really like to know. I've been hard-pressed to find anything of significance they've done over the past 12 months to improve the lives of students.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 3:55 PM
There was a real strategy behind the move to semesters on a statewide basis.  They wanted to align schedules so students could more easily transfer credits from community colleges to 4-year institutions and between 4-year schools.  Makes sense to me.


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Posted: 1/24/2014 4:14 PM
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UC has  projected Academic Calendars out to 2019.  My bet is most academic calendars are set BEFORE the MAC schedule.


Sometimes I just have to question the entire purpose of University.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 5:26 PM
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The state does not set the calendar for the respective universities - each sets its own including breaks.  The interesting thing is that our semester is one week shorter than many if not all of the other schools.


Interesting take.

I am trying to figure out from your wording if it means we have a week less of spring break or if it is one week earlier than the rest.

So given that the U's each individually set their schedules are you inferring that we should wait to set our academic calendar to rotate around the basketball schedule? If so ...when is the academic calendar set in relation to the MAC schedule. next, do we want the student body here more for the Senior Night or do we wnat them present for the MAC and NCAA tourneys?

I am not sure how we keep finding fault in scheduling no matter where things fall. In the past we have lamented the break falling on MAC Tourney week, Ncaa tourney week all the while not realizing that several other sports like Baseball, softball and others construct trips co inciding with their spring breaks. We are either a growing fan base that supports our Cats or we are not.

Spring break here in Indiana usually falls during the State Basketball tourney making travel plans move for many of those who have schools in Finals. Not so much of a problem now that we have begun the recruiting wars and The all Indy finals are taking over.....nobody in the rest of the state cares and fans that have gone for years as fans of HS basketball in general are not going to see teams of all stars from Indy.

All in all spring break has to go somewhere and my guess is the MAC schedule comes out a while after the academic calendars are set from year to year.....but that is only a guess.....


What I was saying is that our semester is one week shorter (total number of weeks) than osu and most of the other schools.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 10:50 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
What I was saying is that our semester is one week shorter (total number of weeks) than osu and most of the other schools.


I see. I did not get that out of the sentence at all. Sorry, that just flew right over my dense noggin.

How does that impact scheduling or scheduling conflicts? Not trying to be thick just trying to figure out the point.

to digress.....Do we have less reading days? Are our profs more efficient at delivering material or do the other schools have extra days built in for snow that we do not need being so far south and with pretty consistently good weather? It is not really important ....I just find it interesting that we have a shortened semester.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 11:35 PM
Actually,  Al, I think the number of days is the same.  I believe OSU starts in the middle of a week and ends in the middle of a week, but has the same (or nearly the same) number of actual days of instruction.  At least that's what I was told by someone supposedly in the know.  I didn't actually count the days myself.  If I can find it, I'll put a link to my previous rant on this current "fake semester system" that all Ohio schools have.  I'm old enough to remember when the Board of Rejects (as we respectfully called them back in the day) forced all Ohio schools on to the quarter system for many of the same false reasons that they now use to promote the semester system.  Basically, it's a matter of fads in higher education and the need for a bureaucracy (the Rejects) to justify their existence by showing that they are making things happen.  
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Posted: 1/24/2014 11:41 PM
OK, I found one of my previous rants on this subject and paste it in here for the edification of the BA masses:
[start rant] Well, if we had a real semester system rather then this "cheating, fake semester system," students would be in Athens until a few days before Christmas and then return at the beginning of the first full week of January.  That was the semester system (then called the "fast semester system" because it started in late August) that I taught under at two different institutions.  It was 16 weeks long, excluding finals. What the higher education bureaucracy in the State of Ohio has concocted is a 14-week system (exclusive of finals) that supposedly has the same number of hours by extending the length of each class period by several minutes.  I submit that this is really cheating the students, the faculty and the General Assembly, which provides funds based on class hours. [/end rant]  
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:09 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
OK, I found one of my previous rants on this subject and paste it in here for the edification of the BA masses:
[start rant] Well, if we had a real semester system rather then this "cheating, fake semester system," students would be in Athens until a few days before Christmas and then return at the beginning of the first full week of January. That was the semester system (then called the "fast semester system" because it started in late August) that I taught under at two different institutions. It was 16 weeks long, excluding finals. What the higher education bureaucracy in the State of Ohio has concocted is a 14-week system (exclusive of finals) that supposedly has the same number of hours by extending the length of each class period by several minutes. I submit that this is really cheating the students, the faculty and the General Assembly, which provides funds based on class hours. [/end rant]
Ia am sure that the school is making tuition reflect these shorter semester systems.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:14 AM
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UC has  projected Academic Calendars out to 2019.  My bet is most academic calendars are set BEFORE the MAC schedule.


Sometimes I just have to question the entire purpose of University.

Politics- 3rd largest metro area in the state. They gotta spend the money somewhere - so Hamilton County Tea Party and/or Repub's - Dems as well if they ever had the voting block down there - gonna always make sure they gonna get "theirs" - earmarks for the local "state" institution............
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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:47 AM
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Actually,  Al, I think the number of days is the same.  I believe OSU starts in the middle of a week and ends in the middle of a week, but has the same (or nearly the same) number of actual days of instruction.  At least that's what I was told by someone supposedly in the know.  I didn't actually count the days myself.  If I can find it, I'll put a link to my previous rant on this current "fake semester system" that all Ohio schools have.  I'm old enough to remember when the Board of Rejects (as we respectfully called them back in the day) forced all Ohio schools on to the quarter system for many of the same false reasons that they now use to promote the semester system.  Basically, it's a matter of fads in higher education and the need for a bureaucracy (the Rejects) to justify their existence by showing that they are making things happen.  


Board of Rejects. Excellent. I thought I might be the only one who thought they were useless.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 12:43 AM
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Actually,  Al, I think the number of days is the same.  I believe OSU starts in the middle of a week and ends in the middle of a week, but has the same (or nearly the same) number of actual days of instruction.  At least that's what I was told by someone supposedly in the know.  I didn't actually count the days myself.  If I can find it, I'll put a link to my previous rant on this current "fake semester system" that all Ohio schools have.  I'm old enough to remember when the Board of Rejects (as we respectfully called them back in the day) forced all Ohio schools on to the quarter system for many of the same false reasons that they now use to promote the semester system.  Basically, it's a matter of fads in higher education and the need for a bureaucracy (the Rejects) to justify their existence by showing that they are making things happen.  


Board of Rejects. Excellent. I thought I might be the only one who thought they were useless.


Well, back in the day, the Post regularly in editorials would refer to the Board of Trustees and the Board of Crusties.  In truth, though, they serve an actual purpose and have for more than 200 years, while the Rejects don't.  We actually came within one vote in the General Assembly of abolishing the Rejects in the mid-1980s.  And, I say "we" not to be cute but because I was actually involved at a minor level in this effort.  
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