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Posted: 3/17/2014 1:43 AM
SMU held a watch party for Selection Sunday. After they found out they would not be included, the coach addressed the congregation.

"When things don't go exactly how you planned, you can either pack it in or you can find a way to do better," Brown said. "We need to use this as a way to get better."

I think that's the right attitude. Yes, the CIT is not the NIT, but I think the mindset still applies.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 2:23 AM
If you compare this tournament to youth sports, what do you think of the bowl games the football team has played? Just because they weren't BCS bowls doesn't make them a waste of time.

I just don't understand. Are we supposed to feel shame at the end of every season? Is this a Cleveland thing?
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Posted: 3/17/2014 9:12 AM
I couldn't care less what the CBI/CIT means.  But it is a chance for me to watch Ohio basketball at least one more time this year.  Who cares what the stakes are?   Who cares if it is considered an accomplishment or not?   We've got four seniors who I want to see in Ohio green just a little bit longer.  We've got a couple of transfers who are just coming into their own (Willis & Setty) and the extra games and practice should benefit their growth.  The same thing goes for Tony Campbell.  

It's okay to be disappointed that we didn't get an NCAA bid.  It's okay to be disappointed that we didn't get an NIT bid.  But an opportunity has presented itself and it's time to address the challenge at hand.  The two other times we played in these were good experiences IMO.  I know I'll be watching.  Go get em boys.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 9:31 AM
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If you compare this tournament to youth sports, what do you think of the bowl games the football team has played? Just because they weren't BCS bowls doesn't make them a waste of time.

I wouldn't even begin to compare the two.  You're (more often than not) rewarded in football for a .500 record.  Our basketball boys are 23-11.

This is an easy glass half full or half empty situation.  In my opinion, there is only one way to look at it.

Go get 'em boys.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 10:49 AM
Am I missing them somewhere or did Buffalo get squadooch in terms of post season play?  I don't see them listed with NIT, CBI, or CIT?
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Posted: 3/17/2014 10:57 AM

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As I look through the list of teams in the tournament I don't find even a single match-up the least bit compelling--not even Cleveland State. 

 

I don't think CSU is amazingly intriguing but I think it is af least a little compelling. Plenty of current students and alums call Cleveland home. It'll get some solid press/interest for that reason alone and I do think CSU is a solid team.
 

What is more exciting to me is the matchups we could see if we win. Akron again would be fun. Even if it would be our 4th meeting, I hate Akron enough that we could play them 100 times and I wouldn't get bored.
 

More interesting... Murray State. Murray State @ Ohio in round 2? Yes, please!
 

I consider Ohio one of the better squads in this thing. Unfortunately, I think CSU is one of the better teams as well... Gonna take some effort to win this thing. I think our boys are up for it.

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Posted: 3/17/2014 10:58 AM
Ticket information for all fans and season ticket holders...

We're not done with basketball just yet! The Bobcats have been selected for the CollegeInsider Postseason Tournament (CIT) and will play at HOME in the Convo on Wednesday, March 19. Ohio will take on Cleveland State at 7:00 pm.

All tickets for the game are $10 each. As a season ticket holder, you have the opportunity to reserve your season ticket location. This "early reservation" deadline will close on Tuesday, March 18 at 2 p.m. After that, all seats will open for sale to the general public.

Season ticket holders may secure their seats by clicking here or by calling 800-575-2287. Fans will be allocated into their season ticket location automatically once their order is placed through the online system.

Current Ohio students will be admitted free of charge at the Convocation Center student entrance. Students must show a valid Ohio University ID for admission.

Parking at the game will be free of charge. Fans may park in the lots located behind the Convocation Center (lots 127/128). Click here to view a campus parking map.

Reserved tickets will be available for purchase on gameday for $10, as available. Gates open at 5:30 pm. Season ticket holders should be aware that they will not be able to request their season ticket location on gameday.
 
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Posted: 3/17/2014 10:58 AM
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Am I missing them somewhere or did Buffalo get squadooch in terms of post season play?  I don't see them listed with NIT, CBI, or CIT?

Buffalo declined their invite to one of the "C" tournaments.

 
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Posted: 3/17/2014 12:13 PM
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Am I missing them somewhere or did Buffalo get squadooch in terms of post season play?  I don't see them listed with NIT, CBI, or CIT?

Buffalo declined their invite to one of the "C" tournaments.

 

This guy from UB Run is not happy about it: http://www.ubbullrun.com/2014/3/17/5517894/buffalo-turns-...

 
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Posted: 3/17/2014 12:22 PM
Oh yeah.. I forgot that WMU was one of those that turned down a bid a couple years back and saw that they ended up advancing in the CBI last year getting some decent run for the frosh and bench players. I guess they came around to a better way of thinking.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 1:56 PM
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Oh yeah.. I forgot that WMU was one of those that turned down a bid a couple years back and saw that they ended up advancing in the CBI last year getting some decent run for the frosh and bench players. I guess they came around to a better way of thinking.

I knew I remembered some MAC team turning down a bid within the last few years but I couldn't remember which one. Inevitably, there's going to be a player or two who can't get up for a tournament like that and would rather just take an early break, but most players want to play any time they can. Even the guys who aren't too excited about it at first might change their mind after a win or two.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 2:52 PM
Seriously people, just look at the competition in this Tournament.  At least 10 of the schools have Sagrin Rankings GT 200!  At least 8 more are Ranked between 150-200.  Like my dearly departed mother says, you are judged by the Company you keep.  This company in this Tournament SUCK!  Actually, I believe Cleveland State is the ONLY school with a Sagrin LT 100.  Toledo and Ohio at #104 1nd #107 are the next lowest.

More power to Buffalo. Have a higher goal to play in one of the two major Tournaments or stay home.

This is pathetic...sorry but it's true.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 3:57 PM
can't wait to hear about how Penn State, Texas A&M and Oregon State have forever ruined their reputations by doing the unthinkable and playing in a C tournament. Oh the humanity.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 4:00 PM
So how does Buffalo's company stack up with ours? Oh, you mean it's even worse and includes every other team not in a tournament? That does sound way better.

The alternative was sit at home or play on. That's an easy choice.

Any chance to play is a chance to get better. It's as simple as that.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 4:03 PM
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Seriously people, just look at the competition in this Tournament.  At least 10 of the schools have Sagrin Rankings GT 200!  At least 8 more are Ranked between 150-200.  Like my dearly departed mother says, you are judged by the Company you keep.  This company in this Tournament SUCK!  Actually, I believe Cleveland State is the ONLY school with a Sagrin LT 100.  Toledo and Ohio at #104 1nd #107 are the next lowest.

More power to Buffalo. Have a higher goal to play in one of the two major Tournaments or stay home.

This is pathetic...sorry but it's true.


I am not going to deny that this is one of the weaker CIT fields we have seen to date but I would almost think this was an anomaly in a year of fairly bad basketball across the board. you think it is pathetic. That's fine. I think you are mired in some form of yesteryear. I don't think we are that far apart in age but we are obviously far apart in our thoughts. 

I am pretty close to the kids that are on the floor so I think I can talk freely about how they think presently as can some others on this board who hear what is up. I am all for anythign that keeps their minds on hoops/academics and their social life out of the Fests for as long as we can. .
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Posted: 3/17/2014 4:07 PM
Casper71 wrote:expand_more
Seriously people, just look at the competition in this Tournament.  At least 10 of the schools have Sagrin Rankings GT 200!  At least 8 more are Ranked between 150-200.  Like my dearly departed mother says, you are judged by the Company you keep.  This company in this Tournament SUCK!  Actually, I believe Cleveland State is the ONLY school with a Sagrin LT 100.  Toledo and Ohio at #104 1nd #107 are the next lowest.

More power to Buffalo. Have a higher goal to play in one of the two major Tournaments or stay home.

This is pathetic...sorry but it's true.


Then don't effing watch if you don't want.  Stop trying to drag others down to your "I hate everything about life, even the things I like" attitude.  There is nothing more small time than someone who thinks they are too good for something.  It's the kind of thing that Miami has fallen into and they are now drawing about 1,000 fans a game because of it.   That's great if you don't want to watch it. Don't. I'm going to watch and I'm going to enjoy it no matter how much you and giacomo try to suck the fun out of life. 

If the Bobcats happen to play within driving distance of me I'm going to go to it just like I went to watch Western Michigan lose at George Mason last year and Buffalo win at American University the year before.  Hell, I'll even go watch Akron if they play fairly close to me. 

This team has earned my respect and support.  The program is doing everything in their power to further my enjoyment and I'm going to reward them for their efforts.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 4:54 PM
For me, this decision is a complete no brainer: play the games, even if we have to pay to host.

The thing that does confuse me, though, is that some here feel playing in a non-BCS bowl game is worthless/a waste of money, but paying to play in a less than NIT game is completely acceptable, nee necessary.

They both appear apples to me.

 
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Posted: 3/17/2014 5:12 PM
the cost to host a game is $30,000. Tickets are $10 a piece. I admit I had to take my math elective twice but I think that comes out to about 3,000 tickets sold to break even. That doesn't seem unreasonable at all.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 5:50 PM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Oh yeah.. I forgot that WMU was one of those that turned down a bid a couple years back and saw that they ended up advancing in the CBI last year getting some decent run for the frosh and bench players. I guess they came around to a better way of thinking.


I don't think they turned down a bid but declined to host a game and got passed over as a result. Hawkins went nuclear. Buffalo, I think, has turned down a bid in the past.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 6:16 PM
"We're Indiana.  We don't play in the CBI."  IU AD.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 6:21 PM
See how incredibly pompous that sounds? I'd rather stay humble and not think we're too good for anyone or anything. Enjoy your principled stand, Indiana. We're gonna go ball.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 6:44 PM
I don't think it's pompous at all. Indiana and Buffalo are using good judgement. There is nothing to prove in these games. We played 34 games and had our chances to play for something and we didn't do it. I'm very proud of our team this year. You'll never hear me bash them or the coach. They work hard and give it their all. But it's time to hit the books and rest and look to next year. You will learn nothing that you don't already know about this team. The only saving grace is that it's a home game. To travel to a game in this tourney would be ludicrous. I'm not talking about the rapper.
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Posted: 3/17/2014 6:51 PM
So we should only play games when there's "something to prove"? If someone comes up and says, "Hey, we're having an event and we'd like you to join," and the players want to be in it, we should tell the organizers and the players to go screw?
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Posted: 3/17/2014 7:54 PM
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"We're Indiana.  We don't play in the CBI."  IU AD.
how about *we"re Indiana we don't play in the NIT or the NCAA tournament "

Don't think fans and alums are over here lining up supporting their ad.  You know.... The one who who had a Premature extensulation and gave crean an 8 year extension and an 18 M buy out
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Posted: 3/17/2014 8:41 PM
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the cost to host a game is $30,000. Tickets are $10 a piece. I admit I had to take my math elective twice but I think that comes out to about 3,000 tickets sold to break even. That doesn't seem unreasonable at all.


Just to get the full picture (not to argue either way), aren't there costs to staff the facility, costs for beverages (though selling those brings in more revenues), costs to heat the facility, etc.  I hope that we run EVERY event at (at least) a small profit.
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