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Posted: 1/30/2015 8:01 PM
As a former Skyline ladle jockey, I'm with Diamond cat on his iteration of a 3 way... BTW, we used to call the Tobasco laden oyster crackers "fire crackers"... It was my first job and the only job I had had before heading off to Ohio. Good times and, while working there, you could eat before or after your shift for free! Of course, after 8 hours of scooping chili, you smelled completely like Skyline. Is that a bad thing?

Go Bobcats!
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Posted: 1/30/2015 8:16 PM
I mean i love me a cheese coney from skyline w/ sauce mustard cheese and hot sauce ..

.. but they still doesn't compare to a footlong hotdog from RAY'S FREEZE on east state street in athens ?

BANG !! .. OH BABY WHAT A BIG TIME FOOTLONG !!
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:05 PM
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Giving up caffeine might have moderate benefits, but the sugar and/or artificial sweetener you're skipping is the much greater health benefit.
Please cite the peer reviewed studies showing the dangers of aspartame and sucralose.
NutritionFacts.org has a litany of them summarized in videos. Here's an overview: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/a-harmless-artificial-swe.../
(It's a few years old, though, so some of it is slightly outdated.)

Another good one: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/neurobiology-of-artificia.../

An easy search: http://nutritionfacts.org/?s=sweeteners
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:43 PM
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Man you people are crazy.

What are you thinking going on like this?

Pepsi is nothing like Coke, it is an over sweet imitation.

And my wife knows it too.

Happily married 20 years.
^^^^THIS^^^^ The world did not need Pepsi. All their product competition accomplished was Pepsi, which sucks, at way too many restaurants and entertainment venues as they underbid (price), overbid (fee) Coke - THE REAL THING!
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:53 PM
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How 'bout cruisin through a drive-thru pickin' up a 4-way skyline, NO BEAN .. then swingin' by Mickey D's and grabbin' an ice cold diet coke !!

now here's some questions ?

let's say you need some hot sauce fo' dat skyline ?

frank's, texas pete, tabasco or other ?
FRANK'S - is a "sauce". If I'm recently back from a trip to Loosiana - then it's CRYSTAL (Oldkatz reminded me the name was Crystal - been a while, and I miss it!). (Texas Pete is OK)

Tabasco is to me more a "spice" as opposed to "sauce", even though it says "pepper sauce" on the label (and essential ingredient in many recipes Cajun, etc). You can pour on the FRANK'S (or Crystal), pour on Tabasco and that is all you taste.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:58 PM
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Giving up caffeine might have moderate benefits, but the sugar and/or artificial sweetener you're skipping is the much greater health benefit.
Please cite the peer reviewed studies showing the dangers of aspartame and sucralose. And, while your at, please tell me why cyclamates are available in the Europe but not the U.S. The science of artificial sweetener is complicated story that's not really easily discussed in sound bites. By the way, GMO foods are very safe.

Oh, you swabbie oil tender phoney grammarian...... your wife is gonna get you for the "your at".......you're in for it.!!!!!!
You ARE completely right, but if you don't tell her about my typo I won't either! ;-)
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:59 PM
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My wife is a snob when it comes to buying soda on the road. She'll crave a Diet Coke and insist we go through the McDonald's drive thru rather than get a fountain soda at the gas station. Apparently the flavor is stronger. Whatever.
Find a way to sneak a Pepsi or RC or whatever in something she would not know and tell her it is her precious Diet Coke. A few hours after she happily finishes it, come clean about it and she won't be able to be so high maintenance about it again.

My office did a blind taste challenge of Coke/Pepsi/RC. Most of us failed miserably in our predictions, including a couple of those coke snobs. It was awesome.
1. Coke/Coca-Cola
2. RC (forgot all about it - lives between Coke and Pepsi flavor profile - between in sweetness, between in "Cola" flavor intensity/purity)
3. Cheerwine (sweeter than Pepsi but really great taste)
4. Kroger Cola. Dirt cheap, and taste better than.....
5. Pepsi - Sucks
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:04 PM
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I'm usually a Tobasco guy. But since an overpurchase of supplies for Buffalo dip, I've been digging Frank's Red Hot.

Another question: What can I do with 2 pounds of Blue Cheese?
Cheeseball. Take a dip w/a cracker every Bean 3 ball heave. Should only take 2 games within a week to get through that cheeseball.....

Or:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/topics/blue-cheese.html
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:14 PM
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I mean i love me a cheese coney from skyline w/ sauce mustard cheese and hot sauce ..

.. but they still doesn't compare to a footlong hotdog from RAY'S FREEZE on east state street in athens ?

BANG !! .. OH BABY WHAT A BIG TIME FOOTLONG !!
Those dogs were pretty good. Footlong's at Larry's not bad either.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:33 PM
JSF, only one of the links to that site that you provided actually lead to a video that would play on my computer. Not sure what the problem was; however, what I did watch was hysterical attempts to scare folks by taking all kinds of studies out of context and then stringing together one kind of provocative statement after another without any real context.

Though I don't agree with everything in them, here are few links with information presented in a little less hysterical fashion. Some of this information is actually based on peer-reviewed studies quoted in context:

http://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2013/04/12/artif...

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm397711...

http://www.popsugar.com/fitness/Side--Side-Comparisons-Ar...

http://umm.edu/health/medical/ency/articles/sweeteners-ar...
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:44 PM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
My wife is a snob when it comes to buying soda on the road. She'll crave a Diet Coke and insist we go through the McDonald's drive thru rather than get a fountain soda at the gas station. Apparently the flavor is stronger. Whatever.
Find a way to sneak a Pepsi or RC or whatever in something she would not know and tell her it is her precious Diet Coke. A few hours after she happily finishes it, come clean about it and she won't be able to be so high maintenance about it again.

My office did a blind taste challenge of Coke/Pepsi/RC. Most of us failed miserably in our predictions, including a couple of those coke snobs. It was awesome.
1. Coke/Coca-Cola
2. RC (forgot all about it - lives between Coke and Pepsi flavor profile - between in sweetness, between in "Cola" flavor intensity/purity)
3. Cheerwine (sweeter than Pepsi but really great taste)
4. Kroger Cola. Dirt cheap, and taste better than.....
5. Pepsi - Sucks
love to see the CHEERWINE shout out , when down in the carolina's ....

BANG !! .. oh baby what a big time tasty beverage !!
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:28 AM
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JSF, only one of the links to that site that you provided actually lead to a video that would play on my computer. Not sure what the problem was; however, what I did watch was hysterical attempts to scare folks by taking all kinds of studies out of context and then stringing together one kind of provocative statement after another without any real context.
There is no reasonable way you could watch a video from that site and think it's hysterical. Did you click on "sources cited"? Because everything on the site is sourced.

Your links are weak. The most substantive thing is "they don't cause cancer," which is not an argument anyone is making anymore. They do not address the fact the brain regards sugar and sugar substitutes differently and this difference may be causing us to overconsume when using substitutes: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18096409

Oh, and they could cause glucose intolerance: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25231862
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:46 AM
The decades-old "my link is better than your link" argument.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 3:47 PM
JSF, your last links appeared to be good scientific studies, sans hysteria, so we are making some progress. The first link has some interesting info on the difference in brain response to sucrose vs sucralose. It posits a theoretical reason -- due to different levels of stimulation of particular portions of the brain -- why artificial sweeteners might not satisfy one's "sweet tooth" and lead to more consumption of sucrose in other forms. Over the years, I've read a number of clinical studies that have looked at this phenomenon and the results have been very mixed. My conclusion is that it probably occurs in some people and not others. I remember one study that showed that people who consumed aspartame over compensated and then consumed more sucrose than they would have otherwise. It was not a particularly well-done study and was kind of an outlier.

Here's the portion of the link in question that I found interesting: "(3) sucrose elicits a stronger brain response in the anterior insula, frontal operculum, striatum and anterior cingulate, compared to sucralose; (4) only sucrose, but not sucralose, stimulation engages dopaminergic midbrain areas in relation to the behavioral pleasantness response. Thus, brain response distinguishes the caloric from the non-caloric sweetener, although the conscious mind could not. This could have important implications on how effective artificial sweeteners are in their ability to substitute sugar intake."

Now, the other link was problematical. It did not indicate the type of artificial sweetener being studied, but one of the related links on the bottom seems to indicate that it was saccharin. This is the most questionable of all artificial sweeteners available in the U.S. Results related to it probably don't apply to the others. A number of years ago the FDA wanted to ban saccharin in the U.S. There was a public outcry. Congress pressured the FDA to backdown, and saccharin was allowed to be continued to used in the US for some purposes. Do you have a link to the full article rather than just the abstract?

Here's an interesting link on the subject, particularly toward the end in the section on quantity of consumption considered safe. Your one or two bottles of diet beverage a day -- which several posters had mentioned -- is nowhere near the upper limit:
http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/Food...
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:07 PM
Anyone who trusts ANYTHING the FDA claims as far as actual health facts or nutrition is either blind or fooling themselves. Follow the money.

The FDA is almost entirely run by former board members from GMO-friendly Monsanto. The FDA funds and therefore picks the scientists who perform those "peer-reviewed studies" and their life-blood of research $ is dependent upon writing exactly what they (the FDA) want to hear. Not only that, but the FDA accepts "studies" performed by the companies whose products are under investigation as a factual basis for their decisions! Nothing to see here at all.

Side note, as someone with a Ph.D. and extensive knowledge of the peer review process....it's nothing short of a scam. Politics, friends, back-door handshake deals and $ for self-preservation determine 100x more about what gets accepted and published or rejected during the peer review process than any of the facts, content or research performed.

As long as the FDA funded "peer-reviewed studies" say it's fine, the FDA can say it's fine and GMO companies (see those who run the FDA) get rich no matter who is in power in Washington. It's a wonderful scheme.

Eat fresh. Eat local or home grown. Eat organic and free range without any growth hormones or antibiotics. Basically eat what God provided, and you'll be fine. Stray from that and you're hanging your health on politicians. Think about that for a second.

Sorry...back to the talk of greasy cinnamon flavored cat soup.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:51 PM
(steam coming out my ears)

Who the hell turned this fun difference of petty opinion thread into a huge debate? There is no topic I debate more in than the fear mongering anti-GMO movement...But I refuse to take part in destroying this thread.

Instead, circling back to the Coke/Pepsi discussion...Come on RSB, every good product needs a competitor to push them on innovation, price, etc. It is possible to despise Pepsi but see their value. If you think the original is the only way to go, I hope you only drive Ford cars and use MySpace.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:19 PM
I got to Akron on time for my 5:30 meeting and with my white shirt intact.

I used the drive-thru bag as a bib.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:30 PM
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Eat fresh. Eat local or home grown. Eat organic and free range without any growth hormones or antibiotics. Basically eat what God provided, and you'll be fine. Stray from that and you're hanging your health on politicians. Think about that for a second.

Sorry...back to the talk of greasy cinnamon flavored cat soup.
I eat fresh and eat local all the time. My wife is a regular shopper at the Athens Farmer's Market. Just came back from a meal at Purple Chopsticks. However, the fear-mongering in this thread is just getting over the top. The FDA may have its flaws, but it is the best such governmental body in the world. But, as another poster said, this is probably not the place to debate this matter.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 8:34 PM
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(steam coming out my ears)

Who the hell turned this fun difference of petty opinion thread into a huge debate? There is no topic I debate more in than the fear mongering anti-GMO movement...But I refuse to take part in destroying this thread.

Instead, circling back to the Coke/Pepsi discussion...Come on RSB, every good product needs a competitor to push them on innovation, price, etc. It is possible to despise Pepsi but see their value. If you think the original is the only way to go, I hope you only drive Ford cars and use MySpace.
Good point on price. Except that I seethe when the ONLY choice is Pepsi. No point on innovation.......
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Posted: 1/31/2015 10:24 PM
but it is the best such governmental body in the world.

wow.

All we got to do now is figure out who is the best such pg in Athens.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 10:39 PM
One thing that sucks is if you stray from standard coneys, then you are at the mercy of the particular franchisee. Talking Skyline here.

If you enjoy the Skyline dip, it's hit or miss on whether the particular Skyline you visit will offer it. This, also, is not a drive thru item - but it can be done.

Besides that, you can't really go wrong between Skyline/Gold Star IMO. I prefer Skyline, but they both get the job done.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:47 AM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
but it is the best such governmental body in the world.

wow.

All we got to do now is figure out who is the best such pg in Athens.
jaaron simmons ?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 12:48 PM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
Instead, circling back to the Coke/Pepsi discussion...Come on RSB, every good product needs a competitor to push them on innovation, price, etc. It is possible to despise Pepsi but see their value. If you think the original is the only way to go, I hope you only drive Ford cars and use MySpace.
Yeah, but what about New Coke?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 1:29 PM
The devolution into scientific mumbo jumbo is unprofessional. There's a reason this board has rules.

Chemtrails.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 1:50 PM
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The devolution into scientific mumbo jumbo is unprofessional. There's a reason this board has rules.

Chemtrails.
ROTFL! Ah yes, I remember that bit of conspiracy theory. They come in all forms these days -- from the right, left and in between.
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