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Posted: 3/17/2011 8:16 PM
Not really.  If I was oversensitive, I would have said something much earlier.

The ironic thing is that if you had criticized Groce for the timeout attempt, I'd be there with you.  Huge gaffe that didn't hurt us because the ref gave us a break we didn't really deserve.

Now I'm chuckling as I always do at the people who accuse me of being nothing but positive.
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Posted: 3/17/2011 11:24 PM
Diante's senior season wasn't that bad, actually. It was the same season as that Syracuse win, as the team also included Stoney, Sanjay and LaDrell Whitehead. They should have won more, but it was a fun season. Syracuse was huge, and they had that really close home loss to Rhode Island, which at the time had Lamar Odom on it.
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Posted: 3/18/2011 12:54 AM
It's interesting reading about all of these recollections of dunks past.  The more I think on the subject, though, I have to repeat that I've never seen anyone who could dunk like Don Hilt.  Don, perhaps, didn't have the style of some of the modern-day artists of the craft.  However, when he dunked the ball the combination of his explosive legs and his broad shoulders (the man could have played on the football team with no shoulder pads and nobody would have noticed) just cleared out everyone in the neighborhood and those who weren't smart enough to get out of the way just went flying every which direction.  It's like he was saying, "Look I'm going to dunk this ball, and no one here has the athleticism or the strength to stop me.  Look and weep!"  Perhaps a few other older-timers can pipe up and tell their recollections of a Hilt dunk.  I could start a whole 'nother tread on a Hilt rebound, but I'll save that for another day.
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Posted: 3/18/2011 8:21 AM
I wish I could have seen Hilt play.  My father, a sportswriter in NE Ohio, saw Ohio play several times in the 1960s and '70s, so he no doubt saw him.
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Posted: 3/18/2011 8:46 AM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
Try Ron Harper Saw him throw down  a tomahawk  taking off from just inside the foul line .


Have no doubts about Harper. But like I said in an earlier post, I enrolled at Ohio in 1987.


I thought you were a Class of '89 guy, Mike. Did you transfer or were you on the academic high-speed rail?
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Posted: 3/18/2011 9:50 AM
To clarify my much-vilified opinion regarding Devo's dunking skills, there is really no comparison between him (or any other Ohio player I have seen since 1979) and Gary Trent.  It's like saying Peyton Hillis is as good as Jim Brown. Folks, no one is better than Jim Brown and the same holds true for Trent in the "modern" era of Ohio hoops.  The guy could dunk over anyone, in any style or circumstance.  He was simply unstoppable.  Plus he had very soft hands - which Devo really does not, although he has been a good player for us - so he could catch and dunk any pass near the hoop, even with players hanging on him. As Charlie Coles, then the coach at CMU, once said (paraphrasing), "Gary Trent is better than the combined ability of any five defenders when he gets the ball."

So in my mind, he wins the dunk competition on all measures, including style points.
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Posted: 3/18/2011 10:07 AM
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To clarify my much-vilified opinion regarding Devo's dunking skills, there is really no comparison between him (or any other Ohio player I have seen since 1979) and Gary Trent.  It's like saying Payton Hillis is as good as Jim Brown. Folks, no one is better than Jim Brown and the same holds true for Trent in the "modern" era of Ohio hoops.  The guy could dunk over anyone, in any style or circumstance.  He was simply unstoppable.  Plus he had very soft hands - which Devo really does not, although he has been a good player for us - so he could catch and dunk any pass near the hoop, even with players hanging on him. As Charlie Coles, then the coach at CMU, once said (paraphrasing), "Gary Trent is better than the combined ability of any five defenders when he gets the ball."

So in my mind, he wins the dunk competition on all measures, including style points.
I'll absolutely buy that.  My issue was merely the idea that all his dunks were the same (objective), not that you find other players to have been better or more exciting (subjective).
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Posted: 3/18/2011 11:52 AM
My all-time favorite Trent Dunk was against Miami in the MAC Championship game in 94' at Battelle Hall, on an oop that was thrown well behind Gary.  Gary in mid air reached back and one handed the bad pass and brought it over the top for a monster slam.  This was the explonation point on the game and the MAC Title and our 13th win in a row! 
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Posted: 3/18/2011 12:10 PM
My favorite dunker is Jeremy Fears, especially in the category of "that rim is too damn high".
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Posted: 3/20/2011 1:56 AM
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My Ohio basketball knowledge begins in 1976,  I'll go with:

Gary Trent
DeVaughn Washington
Patrick Flomo
Brandon Hunter
Lewis Geter
Snoopy Graham

And two notable dunkers:
1. John Beauford - at 7'3" it wasn't too hard for him to dunk.  I did once see him dunk so hard in practice that he broke the supports for the backboard stanchion and collapsed the entire backboard (no shattered glass).  It looked like one of Shaq's dunks in the NBA.

2. Jamie Brock - he is listed for the ferocity and fear that his dunks instilled in the opponents.   As in "Get out of the way, he's going to kill me" dunks. 


I like your picks and your 2 throw in notables with one possible exception. I don't remember Snoopy being much of a dunker. He was very unique player but I think he was as likely to do a George Gervin finger roll as to throw it down.

That late 80's period saw several exceptional dunkers visit the Convo
- Dan Majerle became a 3 point threat in the NBA but got his nickname "Thunder" with his dunks and they had a guard at the same time at CMU called "Lightning"
-Ron Harper dunking had comparisons to Julius Erving when he was in college
-Chandler Thompson I think would be remembered due to him playing so big for his height and being on the BSU team which played UNLV the closest on their run to the national championship in 1990.
** I have not yet seen Kenny Battle mentioned, maybe because he was at NIU one year before transferring to Illinois if I remember correctly. He was a highlight reel but seemed to be more interested in entertaining than winning. I remember near the end of a game in the Convo he had a fastbreak when the game was out of reach. Instead of letting it go, Rich Stanfel wrapped him up to prevent him from dunking. I think Stanfel learned the technique from his dad who was a coach with the Chicago Bears.
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Posted: 3/20/2011 9:32 AM
I am not sure Chandler was the bewt Dunker to come out of Muncie Central, I remember many times Bonzi jumping the passing lanes for a steal on the wing and hammering home some kind of dunk but for 6'3 Chandler made a ton of money in Europe wowing crowds inthetop leagues for years.

www.youtube.com/watch
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Posted: 3/20/2011 3:42 PM
My favorites were Stonerook and Hunter.  Justin Orr was underrated  and threw down a few nice dunks also.  Most legendary practice dunker is definitely Bridgewater.

What's hard to believe that I actually don't remember any dunks from Van Kempen or McVicker, who were both 7 footers. 
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Posted: 3/20/2011 6:12 PM
Here is my list (starting in the early/mid 90's):

1.) Trent (By far)

2.) Flenorl (As far as I know, the only Bobcat ever in the NCAA dunk contest)

3.) Hunter

4.) Washington

5.) Flomo

6.) Fakhir

7.) Bridgewater

8.) Fears

9.) Adell

10.) Rush Floyd
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Posted: 3/20/2011 8:44 PM
Maybe I've missed it, but I don't think anyone has mentioned Mick Isgregg from the early 1980s.
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Posted: 3/21/2011 12:08 PM
crossczech wrote:expand_more
My Ohio basketball knowledge begins in 1976,  I'll go with:

Gary Trent
DeVaughn Washington
Patrick Flomo
Brandon Hunter
Lewis Geter
Snoopy Graham

And two notable dunkers:
1. John Beauford - at 7'3" it wasn't too hard for him to dunk.  I did once see him dunk so hard in practice that he broke the supports for the backboard stanchion and collapsed the entire backboard (no shattered glass).  It looked like one of Shaq's dunks in the NBA.

2. Jamie Brock - he is listed for the ferocity and fear that his dunks instilled in the opponents.   As in "Get out of the way, he's going to kill me" dunks. 


** I have not yet seen Kenny Battle mentioned, maybe because he was at NIU one year before transferring to Illinois if I remember correctly. He was a highlight reel but seemed to be more interested in entertaining than winning. I remember near the end of a game in the Convo he had a fastbreak when the game was out of reach. Instead of letting it go, Rich Stanfel wrapped him up to prevent him from dunking. I think Stanfel learned the technique from his dad who was a coach with the Chicago Bears.


I was actually going to mention Rich "Standstill" Stanfel as one of my favorite singular dunks that I have seen in the Convo. 

I'm not sure which year it was (86 or 87?).  Stanfel (who was 6'10', 275 but couldn't jump a lick) came down on a fast break against Miami and someone flipped the ball back to him trailing the play and he jumped (maybe 5 inches) and hammered one home so hard the basket shook for several seconds. 

It took the crowd a half second realize what we had seen, b/c Rich dunked so infrequently and never so dramatically, they then went crazy and gave him a 10 second standing ovation.
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Posted: 4/6/2011 2:21 AM
I rarely get on here P.G.   but if you are the real Snoopy ...I will never forget you bud!  remember ... i was the the ball boy in the the Vo ..... Nobody remembers you played for the HAWKS.  you had the best finger roll of all time at OHIO
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Posted: 4/6/2011 11:28 AM
Randy...he ain't the real Snoopy. 
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Posted: 5/2/2011 2:18 PM
Are yall crazy? Lets discuss some of the slams Devaughn threw down over his career.  It began as a freshman with a windmill against  bowling green, check youtube for the highlight.  Do you remember the two handed reverse windmill (where his hands went the opposite direction than normal) against Kent State in the MAC tournament? Watch the highlight tape from last years run and you will see plenty of breathtaking dunks.

Who else has made the top ten on Sportscenter from OU for a dunk?  He caught alley oop after alley oop and has the most infamous dunk in the history of the basketball program at Ohio. How many people did he body and slam on throughout this year, not even considering over his whole career? He has to be close to the all-time leader in dunks at Ohio.

He is one of the most underrated players ever to dawn a Bobcat Jersey, with out Devaughn neither team would have endured nearly as much success as they did.  He didnt get the ball nearly as much as he should have and it never affected his play, this is a guy who gave everything on every possession for you guys and grew a ton as a player and a person and I think he deserves a lot more love.
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Posted: 5/2/2011 10:11 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
Randy...he ain't the real Snoopy.
yeah - cracked me up. BUT - The REAL Snoopy would absolutely take #1 on the "Best Finger Rolls" ever list!
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Posted: 5/3/2011 1:40 PM
Lildude04 wrote:expand_more
Are yall crazy? Lets discuss some of the slams Devaughn threw down over his career.  It began as a freshman with a windmill against  bowling green, check youtube for the highlight.  Do you remember the two handed reverse windmill (where his hands went the opposite direction than normal) against Kent State in the MAC tournament? Watch the highlight tape from last years run and you will see plenty of breathtaking dunks.

Who else has made the top ten on Sportscenter from OU for a dunk?  He caught alley oop after alley oop and has the most infamous dunk in the history of the basketball program at Ohio. How many people did he body and slam on throughout this year, not even considering over his whole career? He has to be close to the all-time leader in dunks at Ohio.

He is one of the most underrated players ever to dawn a Bobcat Jersey, with out Devaughn neither team would have endured nearly as much success as they did.  He didnt get the ball nearly as much as he should have and it never affected his play, this is a guy who gave everything on every possession for you guys and grew a ton as a player and a person and I think he deserves a lot more love.



Have you seen the other players we've mentioned?  If not, how could you possibly compare to Devaughn?  I've seen many/most, and can tell you that while Devaughn was/is an exciting player who made some great plays, he's not  remotely close to a Gary Trent.
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Posted: 5/3/2011 3:51 PM
I recall a play that Trent made his freshman year on the road against Robert Morris. It was early in the year and I really had no idea who he was or what he could do. In the first half, someone tossed an alley oop to him which was way over his head, but he went up and got it, which was a remarkable play in itself. He came down with it, then exploded for a two hand slam. I looked at my friends and said "who is this guy"?
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Posted: 5/3/2011 4:08 PM
Lildude04 wrote:expand_more
Who else has made the top ten on Sportscenter from OU for a dunk?  

  He didnt get the ball nearly as much as he should have and it never affected his play, this is a guy who gave everything on every possession for you guys and grew a ton as a player and a person and I think he deserves a lot more love.


Jerome Tillman was on Top10 as he beasted on maryland not once but twice that game. That was Devaughns freshman year.

I agree with the rest of what I left up there. Still work to be done. Hope he gets a ride overseas and takes the time to finish his degree so that he can pass that love of the game on to those who come behind him where ever he ends up.

My favorite...a young DW, winning team losing team ....pass up from his roomie and punctuating the win.
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Posted: 6/22/2011 2:54 PM
Lorenzo Bryant was great dunker but got into trouble early in his career.  I personally believed in using all of my alloted fouls per game.  That was my KPI....tended to help Jamerson get open.  Absolutely the greatest fans and some of the greatest memories of my life.

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Posted: 6/28/2011 4:15 PM
I agree. Curtis Simmons was up there too, plus Paul Graham.
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Posted: 6/9/2012 11:05 AM
potstirred wrote:expand_more
John Deveraux (sp) some pretty sweet baseline  slams


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