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Topic: Turner Gill
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L.C.
12/30/2011 3:49 PM
Welcome to Krasnovarsk....

...and Happy New year.
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Andrew Ruck
12/31/2011 11:22 PM
Bobcat Love wrote:expand_more
The sad fact is that I know as much about the afterlife as Ruck, OCF, L.C., Pope Benedict, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggert, Ayatollah Khomeni, Mullah McKinney, Marty Luther, Rabbi Maimonides, Brigham Young, or any other religious figure you want to throw out. And they know as much as I do. Which is NOTHING. So just do your best while you're here and worry about what happens next when your gone. It'll all work itself out.


This sounds EXACTLY like me 10 years ago.  Precisely.  Then the so-called pushy christians (my girlfriend at the time and a couple good friends) politely introduced me to the amazing evidence validating the Bible and after a year of investigating pretty deeply (I'm a show me the proof kind of guy), I went from that viewpoint to being 100% certain Jesus was real and I wanted to follow him.  There are a lot of people like me with the same story, who are thankful for the people who may have seemed slightly intrusive or pushy years ago.  It no doubt encourages me to "spread the good news" myself today.  But as JSF touched on some, there is no question there have been millions of people going about this the wrong way and/or completely missing the central themes of God's teaching...most notably the myth of salvation thru good works and not thru belief in Christ.

Good topic, all thanks to Turner Gil.  I'm happy we have people who can carry on discussion of sensitive topics without any messy blow ups or anything.
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OhioCatFan
1/1/2012 5:02 PM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
. . .  I went from that viewpoint to being 100% certain Jesus was real and I wanted to follow him. . . .
 

+ \infty
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L.C.
1/2/2012 9:29 AM
Good post Andrew. Note that those friends did not "convert you"; when the time was right, you made a conscious effort to research the subject. I fully agree that there are many who go about this the wrong way or with the wrong message.
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Ohio69
1/3/2012 4:13 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
It's interesting the way you lump those four together.  They are not likely to view such a thing in the same way.  Conservatives are not totally monolithic -- liberals aren't either.  If I had to guess, I would say that Bill would probably point it out as good thing and an example of American diversity.  Rush might make some joke about it and say, sarcastically, that Muslims were taking over the NFL.  Sean would probably not make fun of it either, but he might use an NFL praying Muslim as a springboard to attack President Obama in some strange way.  Glenn would probably best fit your stereotype and might do "a reverse Maher" of some sort.  Greta, who you didn't mention, would probably have the player on her show for an in-depth interview on religion and sports.  It would probably be sandwiched in between boring interviews with Donald Trump, whom she seems to be in love with.


Now that was well done.
Last Edited: 1/3/2012 4:14:04 PM by Ohio69
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Tim Burke
1/5/2012 1:32 PM
Proof? Proof God loves us: he allows monsters like Jerry Sandusky to rape children.

Sounds like a loving God to me! "Proof." *laughs*
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OhioCatFan
1/19/2012 11:56 PM
The existence of evil implies the non-existence of God?  To quote that great theologian, William Jefferson Clinton, "That dog won't hunt."
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rpbobcat
1/20/2012 3:58 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
The existence of evil implies the non-existence of God?  To quote that great theologian, William Jefferson Clinton, "That dog won't hunt."


I wanted to respond to Mr.Burke's comment,but couldn't find the right words.
Very glad that you did.
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Andrew Ruck
2/1/2012 11:47 AM
TB - Are you suggesting God should not have given us free will?
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