Many students have already been told that their classes will be all online.

https://woub.org/2020/10/12/ohio-university-projections-s... /

With that kind of a drop and the succeeding financial difficulties, I would say a couple hundred grand of longevity bonuses would be in order for such fine stewardship.

Man, if you're upset about 33k a year, you're going to lose your mind when I show you what we're paying our football coach.

The rise in cheaper online courses is probably one reason for the decline. Twenty years ago there was just the University of Phoenix. Now there's Southern New Hampshire U, Purdue University Global, and a slew of others. Ohio has to become competitive in this regard.

Also, many students will spend the first two years at a community college then transfer credits to a four-year university as a cost-saving measure. They stay with their parents or rent a cheap apartment to save on room and board. So Ohio gets two years' of tuition, maybe less of room and board, instead of four.

And there aren't as many foreign students -- with their higher tuition rates -- coming to the US as there used to be. That's in large part to the shift in this country's attitude about foreigners, particularly from Asia and Central American countries, during the past four years. We're just not making foreigners feel welcome anymore. This has affected all universities in the US.

Regional campus enrollement is also seeing a steep decline as well, No?

Ohio has had that transfer agreement for several years now.

Online enrollment is down as well. The conversation going back a few years ago as those programs hit a saturation point after taking in a lot of older non-traditional students. There was a surge in demand for nursing to catch up with a backlog who wanted that training.

Some of the regional campuses to me don't make that much sense in today's education economy. Lancaster makes sense with the population of Fairfield county as does having that campus in the greater Huntington market. OU-Eastern is near Wheeling so a decent regional pop there. Zanesville and Chillicothe seem too small of a market to want to have a campus in.

It sounds like the plan for the Athens campus is to set the undergraduate enrollment to a lower range (12,500 to 15,000) permanently. Combined with the alumni base beginning to top out at 250,000 the desire/need to add capacity to Peden goes away completely.

Then also OU is now smaller than Miami. For a few decades the prevailing view was that OU was larger school than Miami and if you wanted a smaller more intimate in-state option Miami was the way to go. Is that going to flip just like Miami has eclipsed OU in the party school rankings? Court Street bar scene having to go foodie because of COVID. It may be the end of trying to challenge OSU and UC directly but might assist in recruiting against in recruiting against those looking for something smaller.

A lot depends on the how rigorous the high school program is.

I work with the Civil Engineering and the Civil Engineering Technology and Construction Engineering Technology programs at FDU.
So I can only,speak to that.

Most of our freshman come in with 4 years of math.
(Algebra 1 and 2,geometry and trig/pre-calculus)
We get a limited number of students who also have had high school calculus.

If they only have 3 years of math,they have to take Pre calculus.

We find,regardless of the high school,a large % of freshman need some remedial classes in math.

Our freshman classes aren't that large.

We tend to get a lot of sophomore transfers.
Most of those kids found out they didn't like the large "name" universities.

Again,we find a number of those students have issues with Calc.III and Differential Equations.
A lot end up retaking Calc.II

The quality of high school AP programs varies a lot.

We've found that kids who were in programs that required taking the AP exam have a much higher level of competency then those who didn't have to.

At FDU we strive to prepare our graduates to take (and pass) the P.E. Exam.
Our exam questions are modeled after the Exam.
In fact,all seniors are required to take,but not pass,the FE exam.

"Taking" AP classes doesn't mean what it used to. I never could understand how taking the class and not taking the test made sense. RP hit the nail on the head with these three sentences.

With so few schools Giving AP class credit, not taking the test makes a lot of sense, speaking from personal experience with a student who received 7 - 5’s and not getting one class credit and dealing with seniors who have largely decided what school they are attending and their requirements, not taking the test makes perfect financial sense.

As an educator, of an AP class for 14 years in 3 different subjects, I have never had a student achieve less than a 3, (which is passing) and a 100% “passage” rate of my students, yet very little credit ever given to the students.

I agree Regional campuses need examined, but that will be a tough pill for many decision makers and politicians.

There is a reason the College Board started requiring money in November v the spring, they are bleeding numbers of test takers in AP classes.

Not sure what you mean by no credit given. No credit given by the local high school or no credit given by the college the student attended? Seems like lots of schools are giving credit.

http://pages.prompt.com/colleges-that-accept-2020-ap-cred...