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Topic: 2014 WR/S Derrick Ingram (Tampa Jefferson, FL) - Ohio de-commit

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Robert Fox

12/8/2013 1:15 PM

Athens' location definitely hurts Ohio with some kids. A very good female athlete from our area recently took an official(?) visit to Athens and quickly ruled it out. We are friends with the family and they know Ohio is our alma mater, so they told us about it. They traveled from Cincinnati that day and the daughter felt like they were driving into "the middle of nowhere."

This is the second very similar story we've heard from prospective students just this year. Unfortunately, I think it's pretty common.

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Monroe Slavin

12/8/2013 1:37 PM

Are youngsters surprised to find that Athens is rather isolated and a small town?

We can't get 'em all. And it's more difficult to get the multi-star talent. But it can be done, has been done (here and elsewhere).

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Bcat2

12/8/2013 2:28 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more

Are youngsters surprised to find that Athens is rather isolated and a small town?

We can't get 'em all. And it's more difficult to get the multi-star talent. But it can be done, has been done (here and elsewhere).

Fortunately Ohio has a staff that will outwork practically everyone else. They have uncovered talent willing to come to Athens from; Texas, Florida, Georgia, California, Michigan, Mississippi, Virginia, Kansas, Nebraska, Canada, American Samoa, W. Va., Md., Pa. and Oklahoma. They have enticed players to transfer to Ohio from; Florida State, Oklahoma State, North Carolina, Iowa State and Notre Dame. I don't think I will list the JUCOs. L.C. has outlined that Ohio is winning recruiting contests vs like programs for the first time since anyone can remember.

Note. There will always be highs and lows. So long as the highs keep getting higher and the lows are higher too, it is all good.

Last Edited: 12/11/2013 7:55:31 AM by Bcat2

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Paul Graham

12/8/2013 2:31 PM

Bcat2 wrote:expand_more

Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more

Fortunately Ohio has a staff that will outwork practically everyone else.

Hi Frank!

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Bcat2

12/8/2013 2:53 PM

Paul Graham wrote:expand_more

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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more

Fortunately Ohio has a staff that will outwork practically everyone else.

Hi Frank!

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OUOhYeah2428

12/9/2013 5:43 PM

Verbal to Temple.

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Bcat2

12/9/2013 7:15 PM

OUOhYeah2428 wrote:expand_more

Verbal to Temple.

No hard feelings. Good luck.

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GoCats105

12/10/2013 8:12 AM

Bcat2 wrote:expand_more

OUOhYeah2428 wrote:expand_more

Verbal to Temple.

No hard feelings. Good luck.

I'm sorry, but this should never happen. TEMPLE?

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GoCats105

12/10/2013 8:20 AM

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So my question is this, Ohio and Indiana have had powerhouse basketball teams, a sport that you only need to get two or three kids per recruiting season to buy in to the Athens/Bloomington scenes. But in football you must get 18-20 each year. (Some prefer the small town so these programs would already have the leg up with those recruits) While the Bobcats in the Solich era have discontinued being the doormat, both these football programs have little history of success. Does a lot have to do with where the two programs are located?

Small town Oxford; Miami had glory years but they are very close to Cincy and perhaps that was enough for some; Ames, Iowa is no metropolis but like Ann Arbor, Muncie, and Akron there is enough city life to satisfy.

Mt. Pleasant would be evidence against the question while Kent would be on the Athens and Bloomington side of the equation. EMU would also be slightly negative to the theory as they are more a metro campus and have had IU like results in their conference.

Most of the high-powered programs in the country are from small towns, so I don't really buy that argument.

Alabama - Tuscaloosa
Auburn - Auburn
Georgia - Athens
Florida - Gainesville
Missouri - Columbia
Texas A&M - College Station
LSU - Baton Rouge
Oregon - Eugene
Oregon St. - Corvaillis
Arizona - Tuscon
Stanford - Palo Alto
Michigan - Ann Arbor
Clemson - Clemson
Notre Dame - South Bend
Penn State - State College

You get the point...

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colobobcat66

12/10/2013 9:42 AM

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Frank said at a Caravan a couple back something to the effect of the difficulty of getting a young recruit to be excited about spending 4-5 years in Athens, Ohio. That would mean that a number of these young recruits prefer the limelight of a larger metropolis.

So my question is this, Ohio and Indiana have had powerhouse basketball teams, a sport that you only need to get two or three kids per recruiting season to buy in to the Athens/Bloomington scenes. But in football you must get 18-20 each year. (Some prefer the small town so these programs would already have the leg up with those recruits) While the Bobcats in the Solich era have discontinued being the doormat, both these football programs have little history of success. Does a lot have to do with where the two programs are located?

Small town Oxford; Miami had glory years but they are very close to Cincy and perhaps that was enough for some; Ames, Iowa is no metropolis but like Ann Arbor, Muncie, and Akron there is enough city life to satisfy.

Mt. Pleasant would be evidence against the question while Kent would be on the Athens and Bloomington side of the equation. EMU would also be slightly negative to the theory as they are more a metro campus and have had IU like results in their conference.

man, not buying the comparisons here. I was in Columbia, Mo about a month ago, not a small town. I looked it up and it's 108,000 population. Not saying its a big city, but not in the same league as Athens. Tucson a small town ? There's small and there's really small and Athens is really small.

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Monroe Slavin

12/10/2013 9:54 AM

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It could be that media coverage and fan awareness of those programs is somewhat higher than at the Ohio. For instance, Michigan and LSU seem to have a bit more buzz than your Bobcats.

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GoCats105

12/10/2013 10:41 AM

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I guess that would depend on one's definition of a small town/small city. I've been to Columbia and I wouldn't call it big by any stretch. For Missouri maybe it is, but it's not a corporate headquarter either. Maybe I was confusing Tuscon with Tempe, or just plain wrong on that one.

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GoCats105

12/10/2013 10:43 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more

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It could be that media coverage and fan awareness of those programs is somewhat higher than at the Ohio. For instance, Michigan and LSU seem to have a bit more buzz than your Bobcats.

Well of course that's the argument to begin with. Those schools have had more coverage and a bigger history than Ohio, but it's not because they are housed in a big city or metropolitan area. Before Oregon got big, who the heck even knew where Eugene was?

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Mike Johnson

12/10/2013 6:24 PM

Palo Alto small?

Smack in the heart of Silicon Valley. A dozen miles to the south is huge San Jose, 15 miles to the north is SFO and another 10 miles puts you in SF. Between SF and San Jose you never feel as though you've left a metro area.

In Oregon, the Eugene-Springfield area (the Willamette River divides the two cities) tops 200,000. U of O's enrrollment approximates Ohio's - with a less appealing campus.

Corvallis - 40 miles to the north - is in fact a small town, and Oregon State's enrollment is about the same as Ohio's. On a "blah campus" meter, Oregon State would rate about the same as BG or Kent.

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Monroe Slavin

12/11/2013 1:37 AM

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MJ brings the holiday smack heat!

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UpSan Bobcat

12/11/2013 10:31 AM

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Most of the towns you list aren't nearly as small as Athens. In fact, all of them are cities of 100,000 or more except for Auburn, AL, Palo Alto, CA and Corvallis, OR, which are about 60,000 (nearly 3 times bigger than Athens), and State College, PA, which is 40,000+ (about twice as big). The only city smaller than Athens is Clemson, SC.

What makes Athens' location really unique is that there isn't another city within 75 miles with even 50,000 people. Almost all of these other towns are either pretty big or within 30 minutes of another city that is pretty big. Some of them are in very populated areas. I think State College might be the one exception and it's still a town that is about twice as big as Athens.

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Mike Johnson

12/11/2013 12:19 PM

One college town not on the list that kicked off this thread that is smallish and isolated is Pullman, home to Washington State. But if my memory serves, it's not much more than an hour from larger Spokane. (I once drove from Spokane thru Pullman to Moscow, ID.)

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Kinggeorge4

12/11/2013 1:54 PM

Ingram had a teammate offered by Temple also. They are both commits there now. That have more to do with it than anything.