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Topic: 2016 ATH Ryan Luehrman - Ohio Signee (NT)
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BillyTheCat
2/4/2015 3:52 AM
BuddyLee wrote:expand_more
I never really paid attention to Athens hs football in the past. So do any of you older guys recall them ever having football players get D1 scholarships before? Im sure it happened but I gotta think it's pretty rare.
Rodney Bryant
Jack Goldsberry
Bubba Lichtenberg
Kahim Maxwell
Grant Gregory
(young man went to VMI, name escapes me)
Joey Burrow
Trae Williams


This is the past 25 years

In addition there have been many walk-ons who have earned playing time on special teams in this period.
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cc-cat
2/4/2015 8:35 AM
Interesting list. Which ones have no relationship to an Ohio coach?
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boydhallbobcat
2/4/2015 9:11 AM
Grant Gregory (QB) graduated in 2004 and received a scholarship to Indiana before transferring to Kansas State and, I believe, finishing up at South Florida.

This class though..I can't remember anything like this for a local team.
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BillyTheCat
2/4/2015 12:05 PM
cc-cat wrote:expand_more
Interesting list. Which ones have no relationship to an Ohio coach?
Goldsberry
Maxwell
Luherman's x2
The young man to VMI
and as stated, many walk-ons who played over the years.
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cc-cat
2/4/2015 12:33 PM
Thanks - no interest in walk-on names, but someone give the poor kid that went to VMI a name

Now let's talk Luhermans - identified as recruited as "athletes" on this board, but let's get some clarity. In recruiting, "athlete" generally refers to player that is simply a fast, play-making player - returns kicks, runs reverses, just figure out how to get them the ball types. Desmond Howard was the prototype. These guys are not that. Fine athletes I'm sure, but they are not "athlete" as much as good players we want to find a position for. Project three years out, when they have time under their belt - positions for them... I'm hearing DE, TE, WR.
Last Edited: 2/4/2015 12:41:03 PM by cc-cat
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cincybobcat99
2/4/2015 1:03 PM
cc-cat wrote:expand_more
Project three years out, when they have time under their belt - positions for them... I'm hearing DE, TE, WR.
Per Ohio Football twitter account, both projected to be TE. https://twitter.com/OhioFootball

One question, do grayshirts sign any letters of intent, or is it more a verbal thing? I'm guessing they sign something, given that coaches are now talking about them.
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L.C.
2/4/2015 1:14 PM
cc-cat wrote:expand_more
... but let's get some clarity. In recruiting, "athlete" generally refers to player that is simply a fast, play-making player - returns kicks, runs reverses, just figure out how to get them the ball types. Desmond Howard was the prototype. These guys are not that. ..

Calling someone an "athlete" is simply saying "They have ability, but I'm not sure what position they will play".
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Paul Graham
2/4/2015 2:01 PM
So we gave away two scholarships to some local kids with no other offers?
Last Edited: 2/4/2015 2:02:53 PM by Paul Graham
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brucecuth
2/4/2015 2:57 PM
BuddyLee wrote:expand_more
I never really paid attention to Athens hs football in the past. So do any of you older guys recall them ever having football players get D1 scholarships before? Im sure it happened but I gotta think it's pretty rare.
And of course, The Kicking (and receiving) Green brothers. I am almost positive that both Mike and Dave were Ohio scholarship players. Steve I am not so sure about.

Quite a family. At one point, Dave was kicking for Tampa Bay in the NFL, Mike was a wide receiver and kicker for Ohio, and Steve was kicking for Athens HS.

Todd Snyder, Athens, scholarship from Ohio
from the wayback manchine...
Hubert Bobo, Chauncey-Dover, scholarship to TOSU
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Doc Bobcat
2/4/2015 3:13 PM
I will go out on a limb and say one of these guys will work out.

Injuries may stifle one of them...but damn....6'4"-220 with great6 hands and speed!!

Burrow is great but someone had to catch the friggin ball.

I saw some one handed catches....I saw tight end material outrunning people.

Works for me.
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Doc Bobcat
2/4/2015 3:15 PM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
So we gave away two scholarships to some local kids with no other offers?
Sure Paul...that's the way we roll...lol.

I think someone said greyshirts but that's insignificant...these kids must really suck.
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Jeff Johnson
2/4/2015 3:36 PM
brucecuth wrote:expand_more
Hubert Bobo, Chauncey-Dover, scholarship to TOSU
Wow! You're really dating yourself...Hubie Bobo played way back in the '50s. He was a backup running back for the Buckeyes, then played a few years with the New York Titans of the old American Football League. (I guess I just dated myself too. :))
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Bobcat2005
2/4/2015 4:10 PM
Nick Toth, current Defensive coordinator/linebackers coach at Fresno State, was from Athens and played for OU. I'm not sure scholarship or otherwise, but he wasn't mentioned yet.
Last Edited: 2/4/2015 4:10:58 PM by Bobcat2005
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Bobcat2005
2/4/2015 4:12 PM
Not to mention Matt Goodwin, one of the current coaches at Athens had a very good career in college. Just not at Ohio.
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Paul Graham
2/4/2015 4:13 PM
Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
So we gave away two scholarships to some local kids with no other offers?
Sure Paul...that's the way we roll...lol.

I think someone said greyshirts but that's insignificant...these kids must really suck.
Aren't greyshirts given scholarships? What part of my post was incorrect exactly?
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Doc Bobcat
2/4/2015 4:14 PM
Would you guys stop.

Todd Snyder sucked.
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OhioCatFan
2/4/2015 4:17 PM
Jeff Johnson wrote:expand_more
Hubert Bobo, Chauncey-Dover, scholarship to TOSU
Wow! You're really dating yourself...Hubie Bobo played way back in the '50s. He was a backup running back for the Buckeyes, then played a few years with the New York Titans of the old American Football League. (I guess I just dated myself too. :))
Two others come to my ancient mind:

John Grogan -- Michigan State
Bill Greer -- Northwestern

Both Athens High School graduates. Grogan in the 1960s and Greer, I think, was in the late 1970s. Those of you who took radio-tv classes, Greer was Archie Greer's son. John Grogan was the son of the Athens police chief. His nickname in high school was "Chief." I don't know how much Greer played but Grogan got lots of game action at running back.
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Doc Bobcat
2/4/2015 4:20 PM
Paul,,,love ha man but we are the ying and the friikkin yang ...you are the Dark Sider and I am the Green Koolaiider.... The truth is somewhere in between.
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OhioCatFan
2/4/2015 4:20 PM
Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
. . .

Todd Snyder sucked.
Assume you're either sarcastic or drunk.
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cc-cat
2/4/2015 4:33 PM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
So we gave away two scholarships to some local kids with no other offers?
Te answer is yes. We gave greyshirts (in essence 2016 scholarships) to two local kids. One appeared to have an offer from Ashland. The other had no offers that have been made public.

Why do some appear disturbed by this question and the honest answer?
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cc-cat
2/4/2015 4:53 PM
Two quick question on greyshirts. Bouncing on the internet, it appears greyshirts are not allowed to practice with the team, in essence are not part of the team for the fall semester. So these two are not playing or practicing until spring ball 2016. Is this correct?

They do not have set positions. WR? TE? etc. Shame they can not spend 15 months working on technique with position coaches.

Question 2 - from both player and institution. How binding are greyshirts?
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Paul Graham
2/4/2015 4:59 PM
Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Paul,,,love ha man but we are the ying and the friikkin yang ...you are the Dark Sider and I am the Green Koolaiider.... The truth is somewhere in between.
Lol
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BillyTheCat
2/4/2015 11:57 PM
brucecuth wrote:expand_more
I never really paid attention to Athens hs football in the past. So do any of you older guys recall them ever having football players get D1 scholarships before? Im sure it happened but I gotta think it's pretty rare.
And of course, The Kicking (and receiving) Green brothers. I am almost positive that both Mike and Dave were Ohio scholarship players. Steve I am not so sure about.

Quite a family. At one point, Dave was kicking for Tampa Bay in the NFL, Mike was a wide receiver and kicker for Ohio, and Steve was kicking for Athens HS.

Todd Snyder, Athens, scholarship from Ohio
from the wayback manchine...
Hubert Bobo, Chauncey-Dover, scholarship to TOSU
Very true, but that was 40-50 years ago. If you are going that far back, AHS has had some amazing athletes.
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BillyTheCat
2/4/2015 11:59 PM
Bobcat2005 wrote:expand_more
Not to mention Matt Goodwin, one of the current coaches at Athens had a very good career in college. Just not at Ohio.
The question as asked was DI, Matt played DIII, big difference. Matt was a good player, but stay on topic
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bobcatsquared
2/5/2015 6:57 AM
With apologies to Billy for going off topic, these posts remind me of two football players in the 1950s who played together (same class, I believe) at much smaller Grandview Heights High School in Columbus.

Ralph Gugliemi went on the star at Notre Dame as a running back and Tad Weed became the place kicker for osu. Both, I believe, played on national championship teams in college.

But most amazing was what they did after their senior season. Back then, a college all-star team would play the NFL championship team. My recollection of facts is a little hazy, but one year the college team beat the Chicago Bears with Gugliemi and Weed scoring all of the points for the all-star team.

So, in essence, tiny Grandview Heights defeated the mighty Chicago Bears. Go BOBCATS!

Additional interesting note: Weed invented the Weed tennis racket about 15-20 years later.
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