With good reasons, there are a fair number of “Fire the coaches” posts. But does anyone have information on what the amount for payouts would be if Solich and staff were given pink slips? Would that amount be feasible?

It could be $1,000,000 or it could be $1. It doesn't matter. We aren't doing it. You may not like it, but MAC Schools (especially this one) don't do buyouts.

Frank has done more for the program than any other coach in the last few decades. He may not be here next year, but it will be on his terms and it's certainly not going to happen during the season.

I think the condition of Peden Stadium (Sook Academic Center notwithstanding) tells you all you need to know about that.

What does the coaching staff have to do with a kid throwing a pick at the goal line and having a chance to win the game in the last minute? Glad to hear you bucked up for season tix in '05! I have seen many games since my first versus Cincinnati October 1981, my senior year of high school. The Solich era has produced opportunities to win games at the highest rate than anytime I have ever seen over that 37 year span. Do I wish we had a MAC Championship? Yes. Do I enjoy our team having a legit shot to win in about every contest? Yes. Solich and crew have done an excellent job in providing opportunities to win for this football program. If you do not believe this, you should have been attending games through the 80's, 90's and early 2000's. Not for lack of effort, but sometimes regrettable ball.

I would love to know UC's football budget versus ours as well, or any other big name opponent Ohio plays. Ohio is at a fraction. I have enjoyed watching this staff win against Pitt, Illinois, Penn State, Kentucky, etc., in person. Those have been some fun times! Also, have been there for some close losses, Ohio State (2008) 26-14, Tennessee (2009) 36-25, etc. I guarantee this was not happening in the 80's when I was at OU, or until this staff come onto the scene back in '05.

This is the best era of Ohio Football since the 60's. I do not think it can be disputed at all.

In closing, you can inquire and wish for what you want, free country.

Frank had the tower and weight room renovated. They hardly qualify as a dump. The stands could use some repairs and paint. The student side is not awe inspiring with the latest in professional stadium construction techniques included but where is the ROI for dropping $25 million into the stadium to get it to that level? ROI to me seems in bringing better home opponents in and playing more Saturday games and keeping the capacity where it is to drive up demand.

Again, mention the MAC Titles between those programs and which one went to a Power Bowl vs the Idaho Potato Bowl for all those 10 years.....

Let me give you an example here that might be transferable to our discussion here:

Michigan State football was for many years a true Jekyll and Hyde program. They would win games they had no business winning, and lose games that they had no business losing. In the process, they would lose games in horrific manners that would drive a fanbase nuts. In fact, they lost to Ohio $tate because they had 10 guys on a FG kick and Ohio $tate ran it back for a TD.

Michigan State got tired of this and attempted to change the narrative. They brought in Dantonio and was given financial resources and facility upgrades in an attempt to go toe-to-toe with the big boys of the Big Ten. He was able to pay his assistants top dollar and in the process was good enough to have a few coordinators plucked away from Michigan State to be head coaches (how many Solich coordinators in the last 10 years have moved up or become coaches? I rest my case). As Dantonio was given these resources, he took MSU to great heights, including MULTIPLE conference championships, BCS and Rose Bowl Appearances, and a College Football Playoff Appearance. During this time he's done an impressive job against rivals and had one truly bad season in his time up there.

For Michigan State to make the jump from mediocre, to good, to contending for nattys is nothing short of incredible. I look at Ohio University and go how come we haven't made the jump to winning MAC Titles? And if you don't think this is an apples to apples discussion, I can gladly bring IU into this maddening discussion for what OU looks like even though they have been so close to turning the corner.

Ohio did better than expected on the road against an undefeated opponent, so yeah probably makes sense to start figuring out the details of the buyouts and get our plans for firings ready to go.

(Having said that, if Ohio stands a chance of a MAC championship this year they do, IMO, really need to play a strong game in all phases and get the W against UMass. I don't want to give a misimpression that I'll try to explain away any loss...but the Cincinnati loss does not discourage me much.)

This is a good post and I appreciate the numbers, and I think I agree.

What I've been encouraged by is that the team seems to be getting better each week, and they've played well in stretches but have had breakdowns at times, which is normally what I associate with a good team that's just "green" -- they're streaky, they have the capability to play well but they haven't had enough game-speed repetition to develop consistency. Now, maybe that's wishful thinking and maybe it isn't, I think we'll find out a lot more against UMass.

All I did was give an example of a football program that wanted to change the narrative, made the financial commitment and made the jump that we cannot make. Glad you got that out of the message when all I was trying to compare was how we SHOULD have made the jump to winning titles versus taking home 4 division titles in the worst division in the country.

B2B, you are too easy to tweak! I agree with you; I just hate MSU and despise what D’Antonio has tolerated in his program to get it where it’s been. Which does beg the question-can you get to the next level in the BCS and still run a clean program? Well sure, obviously, although examples seem to be becoming scarce. But that’s for another thread drift. But yes B2B, Ohio could have, still can and should aspire to get to the next level; Frank has said so repeatedly the last several months. I absolutely agree with you.

Don’t get me wrong BSquared, I’m no Ohio State honk but they really aren’t in the same company as MSU and Penn State. Sure there are allegations with Ohio State but the situations you mention are still only allegations. I firmly believe that one is innocent until proven guilty; due process is huge to me. There are no such allegations in the Penn State and MSU situations. There were concrete convictions. And if you go on shear numbers, that rat ******* Larry Nasser abused well over one hundred women. And his behavior went unchecked by the MSU administration for years. So for me, and this is just me only, I wouldn’t lump Ohio State with MSU and Penn State.

Figuring out the buyouts when any long term poster on here knows the entire staff including Frank himself is year-2-year at this point.

Actually, they brought in Bobby Williams and John L Smith before they got to Dantonio.