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Great interception Kylan Nelson, wow
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Can someone tell me why Javon Hagan is still in the football game? Stat padding? Get him the hell out of the football game. Up 52-7. Still back there at safety. Hilarious.
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Can someone tell me why Javon Hagan is still in the football game? Stat padding? Get him the hell out of the football game. Up 52-7. Still back there at safety. Hilarious.
I think he’s out now.

That personal foul on DT Coleman was about as ticky tack as it gets....ridiculous.
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We could have a couple of more int’s if we learn turn our head around in coverage.
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59 to 14. That was a bad nite for wmu. Bobcats played well. Three big division games left.
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OH MY WORD, WHAT A SLAUGHTER!

I've never seen a first half like that before in my life. Truly tremendous. I felt like I was on laughing gas!
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Mom knows best.

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That was something.
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They’re playing their butts off...and the bottom of the MAC is baaaaaaaaad.
WMU was 4-1 in the MAC. Yikes!

This is what being the preseason MAC favorite is supposed to look like.

What an ass-kicking!

I know WMU is literally gift-wrapping this thing (to the point where I actually just felt bad for them after the 2nd fumbled kickoff) ... but Ohio is just doing whatever the hell they want.

Nice to see!

Don't remember as dominating a 1H of football in any MAC game during the Solich era ... especially on the road.

(Maybe that 1H of the MACC vs NIU??? Just threw up in my mouth remembering the 2H of that game)
You almost managed an entirely positive post. Almost. The NIU MACC loss, really? 59-14 and you will find a way to make a tie in to something from your baggage. And yes, of course, you were just making a joke. Funny how it ended with you having a bad taste in your mouth about Ohio football. Funny.
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They’re playing their butts off...and the bottom of the MAC is baaaaaaaaad.
WMU was 4-1 in the MAC. Yikes!

This is what being the preseason MAC favorite is supposed to look like.

What an ass-kicking!

I know WMU is literally gift-wrapping this thing (to the point where I actually just felt bad for them after the 2nd fumbled kickoff) ... but Ohio is just doing whatever the hell they want.

Nice to see!

Don't remember as dominating a 1H of football in any MAC game during the Solich era ... especially on the road.

(Maybe that 1H of the MACC vs NIU??? Just threw up in my mouth remembering the 2H of that game)
You almost managed an entirely positive post. Almost. The NIU MACC loss, really? 59-14 and you will find a way to make a tie in to something from your baggage. And yes, of course, you were just making a joke. Funny how it ended with you having a bad taste in your mouth about Ohio football. Funny.
Ugh .... and I was having a perfectly good Friday morning.

Happy Friday to you too.
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Let's hope the buzzsaw continues to stay greased and sharp. Big money games coming down the stretch and personally would like to be able to host a BobcatAttack Tailgate in Detroit that night.
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Mom knows best. Targeting?? Looked just like a tough hit to this mama! https://t.co/y2m6txE2Oy&mdash ; Angie Meservy (@AngieMeservy) https://twitter.com/AngieMeservy/status/10581550072064778...
Fortunately it didn't matter much. It was near the end of the first half and some other guys were going to start playing anyway. He won't have to miss any of the next game.
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They’re playing their butts off...and the bottom of the MAC is baaaaaaaaad.
WMU was 4-1 in the MAC. Yikes!
I wasn't very articulate, but I was trying to get at the fact this Western team got to 4-1 tells me a lot about the teams they were beating up on. This was one of those momentum games where Western looked much worse than they are, but that's not a team that should be 6-3, 4-1 in the MAC.

They've played two good teams this season, Ohio and Toledo, and lost by a combined score of 110-38.

I wouldn't be surprised if Northern doesn't hang a big number on them in two weeks, either.

Ohio is playing like a MAC champion right now and Western was inflated on a couple of close toss-up wins over Miami and Eastern and wins over dreadful teams like BG and Central.

It was a recipe for a beatdown.
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They’re playing their butts off...and the bottom of the MAC is baaaaaaaaad.
WMU was 4-1 in the MAC. Yikes!
I wasn't very articulate, but I was trying to get at the fact this Western team got to 4-1 tells me a lot about the teams they were beating up on. This was one of those momentum games where Western looked much worse than they are, but that's not a team that should be 6-3, 4-1 in the MAC.

They've played two good teams this season, Ohio and Toledo, and lost by a combined score of 110-38.

I wouldn't be surprised if Northern doesn't hang a big number on them in two weeks, either.
Totally agree with you. Said so before the game in re: WMU

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WMU record is deceiving ...

They weren't projected to be that good. Their best win is probably 40-39 at Miami

Other than that it's ...

Delaware St ... BG ... CMU ... Georgia St ... EMU
WMU is a perfect example of what's wrong with the "everybody is bowl-eligible" era of CFB. You can stack up 7 wins and beat absolutely nobody and still go to a bowl.

WMU can easily go 7-5 (5-3) with wins over:

Ball St (4-8 at best?)
CMU (2-10 at best?)
EMU (7-5 at best?)
Miami (4-8 at best?)
BG (2-10 at best?)
Georgia St (2-10?)
Delaware St (1-11 FCS)

That earns you a bowl bid in 2018.

Talk about a watered-down product. Yikes.
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They’re playing their butts off...and the bottom of the MAC is baaaaaaaaad.
WMU was 4-1 in the MAC. Yikes!
I wasn't very articulate, but I was trying to get at the fact this Western team got to 4-1 tells me a lot about the teams they were beating up on. This was one of those momentum games where Western looked much worse than they are, but that's not a team that should be 6-3, 4-1 in the MAC.

They've played two good teams this season, Ohio and Toledo, and lost by a combined score of 110-38.

I wouldn't be surprised if Northern doesn't hang a big number on them in two weeks, either.
Totally agree with you. Said so before the game in re: WMU

WMU record is deceiving ...

They weren't projected to be that good. Their best win is probably 40-39 at Miami

Other than that it's ...

Delaware St ... BG ... CMU ... Georgia St ... EMU
WMU is a perfect example of what's wrong with the "everybody is bowl-eligible" era of CFB. You can stack up 7 wins and beat absolutely nobody and still go to a bowl.

WMU can easily go 7-5 (5-3) with wins over:

Ball St (4-8 at best?)
CMU (2-10 at best?)
EMU (7-5 at best?)
Miami (4-8 at best?)
BG (2-10 at best?)
Georgia St (2-10?)
Delaware St (1-11 FCS)

That earns you a bowl bid in 2018.

Talk about a watered-down product. Yikes.
I'm not so sure I'm willing to water down WMU's record or team because if they're terrible, what does that say about Ohio? And couldn't we then say the same thing about Ohio, exactly who has Ohio beaten?

All I know is, Ohio just demolished a team with a winning record on the road, at a venue they hadn't won in 20 years, and leave it at that.
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OH MY WORD, WHAT A SLAUGHTER!

I've never seen a first half like that before in my life. Truly tremendous. I felt like I was on laughing gas!
Under Grobe during his second season and during a driving rain in Peden, Ohio led BG 35-0 at the half. Kareem Wilson had run for something like 250 yards during that first half. During the 2nd half, Grobe called off the dogs and the final was 38-0.
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OH MY WORD, WHAT A SLAUGHTER!

I've never seen a first half like that before in my life. Truly tremendous. I felt like I was on laughing gas!
Under Grobe during his second season and during a driving rain in Peden, Ohio led BG 35-0 at the half. Kareem Wilson had run for something like 250 yards during that first half. During the 2nd half, Grobe called off the dogs and the final was 38-0.
That was homecoming, as I recall.

Just watched the replay on ESPNU. The targeting call in the first half and the roughing the QB call were completely bogus.

Good to see Ohio take it to a quality team. WMU made a lot of mistakes but four of the six TOs were forced (just the two muffed KOs weren't) and so was the blocked punt. TOs don't mean much if you don't score and 24 pts on 6 TOs is damn good by any standard.
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They’re playing their butts off...and the bottom of the MAC is baaaaaaaaad.
WMU was 4-1 in the MAC. Yikes!
I wasn't very articulate, but I was trying to get at the fact this Western team got to 4-1 tells me a lot about the teams they were beating up on. This was one of those momentum games where Western looked much worse than they are, but that's not a team that should be 6-3, 4-1 in the MAC.

They've played two good teams this season, Ohio and Toledo, and lost by a combined score of 110-38.

I wouldn't be surprised if Northern doesn't hang a big number on them in two weeks, either.
Totally agree with you. Said so before the game in re: WMU

WMU record is deceiving ...

They weren't projected to be that good. Their best win is probably 40-39 at Miami

Other than that it's ...

Delaware St ... BG ... CMU ... Georgia St ... EMU
WMU is a perfect example of what's wrong with the "everybody is bowl-eligible" era of CFB. You can stack up 7 wins and beat absolutely nobody and still go to a bowl.

WMU can easily go 7-5 (5-3) with wins over:

Ball St (4-8 at best?)
CMU (2-10 at best?)
EMU (7-5 at best?)
Miami (4-8 at best?)
BG (2-10 at best?)
Georgia St (2-10?)
Delaware St (1-11 FCS)

That earns you a bowl bid in 2018.

Talk about a watered-down product. Yikes.
I'm not so sure I'm willing to water down WMU's record or team because if they're terrible, what does that say about Ohio? And couldn't we then say the same thing about Ohio, exactly who has Ohio beaten?

All I know is, Ohio just demolished a team with a winning record on the road, at a venue they hadn't won in 20 years, and leave it at that.
Which is exactly the reason when people beat their chest about Ohio being bowl eligible every year ... and that wasn't the case 20-30 years ago ... and you should celebrate that and embrace it ... blah blah blah

Being bowl eligible isn't exactly an amazing feat and that should NEVER be the standard Ohio holds itself to. They're better than that.

Some fans cling to that (and yes ... some here on this message board) ... but it was never mentioned by the team last night. That's the way it should be. Aim higher.

7-5 in the MAC in 2018 isn't all that ... especially when u play an FCS and UMass in nonconference
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OH MY WORD, WHAT A SLAUGHTER!

I've never seen a first half like that before in my life. Truly tremendous. I felt like I was on laughing gas!
Under Grobe during his second season and during a driving rain in Peden, Ohio led BG 35-0 at the half. Kareem Wilson had run for something like 250 yards during that first half. During the 2nd half, Grobe called off the dogs and the final was 38-0.
At halftime of that game Ohio had the resume of a top 25 team. They had one loss which was on the road to a top 10 Kansas State team. This was a loss where they outgained KSU by about 250 yards and lost, not due to turnovers, but hail mary conversions and 60+ yard field goals by KSU. They had blown out everyone else except Maryland which was fairly close. But I think BG exposed us in the second half more than us calling off the dogs. They did what teams rarely do and put both safeties in the box and dared us to throw over them. For the most part we didn't even try and it was that way for the rest of the year.

This was a tactic that Akron and NIU used, maybe the two worst teams in 1A that year, and made a game out of it both times. In one of those games we were the last team to not throw a pass in a game until Army did it last year. Grobe figured they were bad enough that we should win as long as we didn't waste downs. There was no effort to thwart the tactic.

This, of course, resulted in losing the last two games to Miami and Marshall, who might have both been top 35 teams pretty handily.
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OH MY WORD, WHAT A SLAUGHTER!

I've never seen a first half like that before in my life. Truly tremendous. I felt like I was on laughing gas!
Under Grobe during his second season and during a driving rain in Peden, Ohio led BG 35-0 at the half. Kareem Wilson had run for something like 250 yards during that first half. During the 2nd half, Grobe called off the dogs and the final was 38-0.
At halftime of that game Ohio had the resume of a top 25 team. They had one loss which was on the road to a top 10 Kansas State team. This was a loss where they outgained KSU by about 250 yards and lost, not due to turnovers, but hail mary conversions and 60+ yard field goals by KSU. They had blown out everyone else except Maryland which was fairly close. But I think BG exposed us in the second half more than us calling off the dogs. They did what teams rarely do and put both safeties in the box and dared us to throw over them. For the most part we didn't even try and it was that way for the rest of the year.

This was a tactic that Akron and NIU used, maybe the two worst teams in 1A that year, and made a game out of it both times. In one of those games we were the last team to not throw a pass in a game until Army did it last year. Grobe figured they were bad enough that we should win as long as we didn't waste downs. There was no effort to thwart the tactic.

This, of course, resulted in losing the last two games to Miami and Marshall, who might have both been top 35 teams pretty handily.
Not that it makes much difference to our discussion, but if my memory is accurate you are confusing seasons. It was Grobe's 3rd season that began 8-1 with the only loss to Kansas State (23-20) and ended with losses to Miami and Marshall. It was in his 2nd season that Ohio blanked BG, yes at Homecoming, and was one of a string of 3 straight shutouts that had Ohio at 6-3. Ohio then lost its last 3 games, including a heartbreaking finale to Toledo, to finish 6-6. Whaddaya think? Is my memory flawless or flawed?
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OH MY WORD, WHAT A SLAUGHTER!

I've never seen a first half like that before in my life. Truly tremendous. I felt like I was on laughing gas!
Under Grobe during his second season and during a driving rain in Peden, Ohio led BG 35-0 at the half. Kareem Wilson had run for something like 250 yards during that first half. During the 2nd half, Grobe called off the dogs and the final was 38-0.
At halftime of that game Ohio had the resume of a top 25 team. They had one loss which was on the road to a top 10 Kansas State team. This was a loss where they outgained KSU by about 250 yards and lost, not due to turnovers, but hail mary conversions and 60+ yard field goals by KSU. They had blown out everyone else except Maryland which was fairly close. But I think BG exposed us in the second half more than us calling off the dogs. They did what teams rarely do and put both safeties in the box and dared us to throw over them. For the most part we didn't even try and it was that way for the rest of the year.

This was a tactic that Akron and NIU used, maybe the two worst teams in 1A that year, and made a game out of it both times. In one of those games we were the last team to not throw a pass in a game until Army did it last year. Grobe figured they were bad enough that we should win as long as we didn't waste downs. There was no effort to thwart the tactic.

This, of course, resulted in losing the last two games to Miami and Marshall, who might have both been top 35 teams pretty handily.
Not that it makes much difference to our discussion, but if my memory is accurate you are confusing seasons. It was Grobe's 3rd season that began 8-1 with the only loss to Kansas State (23-20) and ended with losses to Miami and Marshall. It was in his 2nd season that Ohio blanked BG, yes at Homecoming, and was one of a string of 3 straight shutouts that had Ohio at 6-3. Ohio then lost its last 3 games, including a heartbreaking finale to Toledo, to finish 6-6. Whaddaya think? Is my memory flawless or flawed?
Yeah, you are right. 1996 was is second year. The BG game was 38-0. The only thing wrong here after looking it up is that in 1996 there were 3 shutouts out of 5 games.
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OH MY WORD, WHAT A SLAUGHTER!

I've never seen a first half like that before in my life. Truly tremendous. I felt like I was on laughing gas!
Under Grobe during his second season and during a driving rain in Peden, Ohio led BG 35-0 at the half. Kareem Wilson had run for something like 250 yards during that first half. During the 2nd half, Grobe called off the dogs and the final was 38-0.
At halftime of that game Ohio had the resume of a top 25 team. They had one loss which was on the road to a top 10 Kansas State team. This was a loss where they outgained KSU by about 250 yards and lost, not due to turnovers, but hail mary conversions and 60+ yard field goals by KSU. They had blown out everyone else except Maryland which was fairly close. But I think BG exposed us in the second half more than us calling off the dogs. They did what teams rarely do and put both safeties in the box and dared us to throw over them. For the most part we didn't even try and it was that way for the rest of the year.

This was a tactic that Akron and NIU used, maybe the two worst teams in 1A that year, and made a game out of it both times. In one of those games we were the last team to not throw a pass in a game until Army did it last year. Grobe figured they were bad enough that we should win as long as we didn't waste downs. There was no effort to thwart the tactic.

This, of course, resulted in losing the last two games to Miami and Marshall, who might have both been top 35 teams pretty handily.
Not that it makes much difference to our discussion, but if my memory is accurate you are confusing seasons. It was Grobe's 3rd season that began 8-1 with the only loss to Kansas State (23-20) and ended with losses to Miami and Marshall. It was in his 2nd season that Ohio blanked BG, yes at Homecoming, and was one of a string of 3 straight shutouts that had Ohio at 6-3. Ohio then lost its last 3 games, including a heartbreaking finale to Toledo, to finish 6-6. Whaddaya think? Is my memory flawless or flawed?
MJ is correct. We had back to back 38-0 shutouts in 1996 against BG (24-0 at half) and @ WMU, Grobe's second year, where seeing Ohio go 6-6 was was mother forgetting miracle. Next year we led BG by the same 24-0 halftime score, but didn't score again. That second half was actually the beginning of the downfall of that season.
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They’re playing their butts off...and the bottom of the MAC is baaaaaaaaad.
WMU was 4-1 in the MAC. Yikes!
I wasn't very articulate, but I was trying to get at the fact this Western team got to 4-1 tells me a lot about the teams they were beating up on. This was one of those momentum games where Western looked much worse than they are, but that's not a team that should be 6-3, 4-1 in the MAC.

They've played two good teams this season, Ohio and Toledo, and lost by a combined score of 110-38.

I wouldn't be surprised if Northern doesn't hang a big number on them in two weeks, either.
Totally agree with you. Said so before the game in re: WMU

WMU record is deceiving ...

They weren't projected to be that good. Their best win is probably 40-39 at Miami

Other than that it's ...

Delaware St ... BG ... CMU ... Georgia St ... EMU
WMU is a perfect example of what's wrong with the "everybody is bowl-eligible" era of CFB. You can stack up 7 wins and beat absolutely nobody and still go to a bowl.

WMU can easily go 7-5 (5-3) with wins over:

Ball St (4-8 at best?)
CMU (2-10 at best?)
EMU (7-5 at best?)
Miami (4-8 at best?)
BG (2-10 at best?)
Georgia St (2-10?)
Delaware St (1-11 FCS)

That earns you a bowl bid in 2018.

Talk about a watered-down product. Yikes.
I'm not so sure I'm willing to water down WMU's record or team because if they're terrible, what does that say about Ohio? And couldn't we then say the same thing about Ohio, exactly who has Ohio beaten?

All I know is, Ohio just demolished a team with a winning record on the road, at a venue they hadn't won in 20 years, and leave it at that.
Which is exactly the reason when people beat their chest about Ohio being bowl eligible every year ... and that wasn't the case 20-30 years ago ... and you should celebrate that and embrace it ... blah blah blah

Being bowl eligible isn't exactly an amazing feat and that should NEVER be the standard Ohio holds itself to. They're better than that.

Some fans cling to that (and yes ... some here on this message board) ... but it was never mentioned by the team last night. That's the way it should be. Aim higher.

7-5 in the MAC in 2018 isn't all that ... especially when u play an FCS and UMass in nonconference
I don't think anyone is beating their chest about being bowl eligible. you hear about it because it's generally the first attainable goal in any season. That's out of the way. Beat Miami is all that matters now.
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