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Topic: 🖕🖕🖕 Weeknight #MACtion
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MonroeClassmate
10/31/2018 8:02 PM
Stunter wrote:
"And as someone who has traveled with a team during Thanksgiving, it's also not fun for many players/coaches/staff to be away from your family and friends."

Thing is, those Black Friday games really are not different than playing on Thanksgiving. Those games cause the visiting team to be away from home on Thanksgiving anyway. Additionally, few complain about being away from home during bowl games during the holidays.

NFL goes up against MLB regular season and playoffs and there seem to be enough viewers to make a go of them.

The midweek games have nearly no fans but if played on Thanksgiving that Buffalo-Fiami game last evening may have had a nice crowd--if played in the morning on a day off for just about everyone. I'd bet the Athens townies would love a game to get the holiday off to a good start.

What does ESPN show during Thanksgiving--why would they mind bumping up against the NFL?
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Sam bobcat
11/1/2018 8:09 AM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
And as someone who has traveled with a team during Thanksgiving, it's also not fun for many players/coaches/staff to be away from your family and friends.
Playing the day after Thanksgiving like we do means the players/coaches/staff will still be away from family and friends for the holiday. So what’s the difference? If my son can’t be with us for the holiday, I would rather watch him with all the family gathered together than the next day without everyone there to watch with me. That’s silly. I don’t get your logic here.
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bshot44
11/1/2018 11:19 AM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
None of these ideas that have been posted will see the light of day with MAC headquarters as those folks are tone deaf or worse, know-it-alls.

Screw the NFL and NBA--get these MAC games on Thanksgiving Day. Living in northern Ohio I might even go to see a game at Kent or Akron that morning. (Those black Friday AM games are the worst--refs, players and band members all miss the full day of Thanksgiving anyway so play the games on Turkey Day)

Limit the mid-week games to two per team--one being the MAC Turkey Day Celebration. The others can be staggered during the weeks of November with bye-week recovery for most teams. Result is still mid-week MACtion and a new tradition on Turkey Day and an additional Saturday game vs the current format.
You want to be up against a traditional NFL football TV audience?
Plenty of people would rather watch any college game. Also, there's 800 other channels and they don't throw their arms up in the air and put nothing on just because the nfl is on. NFL may win the ratings game, but there are enough viewers to go around. plenty of people don't give a sh** about the nfl or any football. It's up to the MAC and its teams to put a good product on the field. If the nfl game turns into a blowout, people will channel surf.
I'm not so sure you can look at Thanksgiving Day as a normal TV viewing day. It's a day more than any other that is a victim of habits. The Macy's Parade, the Dog Show and NFL football is the likely TV schedule for many homes as travel, food prep, eating and family arguments will render the TV screen as background noise for most, except that odd uncle that parks himself on the couch in front of the TV.

I just don't think a MAC football game on Thanksgiving is a good idea from an in-person attendance and national TV viewing POV.

And as someone who has traveled with a team during Thanksgiving, it's also not fun for many players/coaches/staff to be away from your family and friends.
CFB has tried some thanksgiving games in the past ... I remember Texas Tech-Texas gave it a go a few times in recent years.

The Egg Bowl is the only game that always falls on T'giving. Maybe people in Mississippi enjoy that?

Other than that, it's Colorado St vs. Air Force this year (another regional rivalry)

I would say, unless it's a regional rivalry ... it's a tough sell for CFB on Turkey Day.
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OU_Country
11/1/2018 11:33 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
None of these ideas that have been posted will see the light of day with MAC headquarters as those folks are tone deaf or worse, know-it-alls.

Screw the NFL and NBA--get these MAC games on Thanksgiving Day. Living in northern Ohio I might even go to see a game at Kent or Akron that morning. (Those black Friday AM games are the worst--refs, players and band members all miss the full day of Thanksgiving anyway so play the games on Turkey Day)

Limit the mid-week games to two per team--one being the MAC Turkey Day Celebration. The others can be staggered during the weeks of November with bye-week recovery for most teams. Result is still mid-week MACtion and a new tradition on Turkey Day and an additional Saturday game vs the current format.
You want to be up against a traditional NFL football TV audience?
Plenty of people would rather watch any college game. Also, there's 800 other channels and they don't throw their arms up in the air and put nothing on just because the nfl is on. NFL may win the ratings game, but there are enough viewers to go around. plenty of people don't give a sh** about the nfl or any football. It's up to the MAC and its teams to put a good product on the field. If the nfl game turns into a blowout, people will channel surf.
I'm not so sure you can look at Thanksgiving Day as a normal TV viewing day. It's a day more than any other that is a victim of habits. The Macy's Parade, the Dog Show and NFL football is the likely TV schedule for many homes as travel, food prep, eating and family arguments will render the TV screen as background noise for most, except that odd uncle that parks himself on the couch in front of the TV.

I just don't think a MAC football game on Thanksgiving is a good idea from an in-person attendance and national TV viewing POV.

And as someone who has traveled with a team during Thanksgiving, it's also not fun for many players/coaches/staff to be away from your family and friends.
CFB has tried some thanksgiving games in the past ... I remember Texas Tech-Texas gave it a go a few times in recent years.

The Egg Bowl is the only game that always falls on T'giving. Maybe people in Mississippi enjoy that?

Other than that, it's Colorado St vs. Air Force this year (another regional rivalry)

I would say, unless it's a regional rivalry ... it's a tough sell for CFB on Turkey Day.
Also worth considering in this discussion: there are typically holiday weekend basketball tournaments that are going on. Personally, that's what I'd rather watch over the NFL, or a random college football game.
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OhioStunter
11/1/2018 12:18 PM
Look, being away from family for a game on Thanksgiving isn't the sole reason not to do this. I understand players travel during holidays.

But to think that any significant amount of fans would ATTEND a Thanksgiving game at a MAC stadium, or that a number of people would WATCH that game over traditional Thanksgiving TV programming is highly unlikely.
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Sam bobcat
11/1/2018 2:49 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
Look, being away from family for a game on Thanksgiving isn't the sole reason not to do this. I understand players travel during holidays.

But to think that any significant amount of fans would ATTEND a Thanksgiving game at a MAC stadium, or that a number of people would WATCH that game over traditional Thanksgiving TV programming is highly unlikely.
You’re right, the stands would be pretty empty. But I think a significant number of people would tune in for the game.
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OU_Country
11/1/2018 3:17 PM
Sam bobcat wrote:expand_more
Look, being away from family for a game on Thanksgiving isn't the sole reason not to do this. I understand players travel during holidays.

But to think that any significant amount of fans would ATTEND a Thanksgiving game at a MAC stadium, or that a number of people would WATCH that game over traditional Thanksgiving TV programming is highly unlikely.
You’re right, the stands would be pretty empty. But I think a significant number of people would tune in for the game.
Maybe I'm alone on this, but I don't watch midweek MAC games - unless Ohio is on. I don't watch Thursday night NFL, unless the Bengals are on. I consume the majority of my sports Fri/Sat/Sun. The exception is college basketball, where I watch all kinds of games that aren't OU or UC basketball - my primary rooting interests in college hoops.

Thanksgiving and Christmas seasons would be an exception - I'd probably watch any and all football games with family if the MAC were playing. More interesting to me that watching the Lions and Cowboys year after year on Turkey Day.
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Robert Fox
11/1/2018 3:40 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Thanksgiving and Christmas seasons would be an exception - I'd probably watch any and all football games with family if the MAC were playing. More interesting to me that watching the Lions and Cowboys year after year on Turkey Day.
Agree with this. I may also be an exception, but when OU played on Black Friday in the past, I attended at least two if I remember correctly. I definitely remember attending one game in Oxford. To me, it makes perfect sense. I have no interest in the Cowboys or Lions, and I'd watch or attend any MAC game televised on Thursday or Friday of Thanksgiving week.
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OU_Country
11/1/2018 4:04 PM
Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
Thanksgiving and Christmas seasons would be an exception - I'd probably watch any and all football games with family if the MAC were playing. More interesting to me that watching the Lions and Cowboys year after year on Turkey Day.
Agree with this. I may also be an exception, but when OU played on Black Friday in the past, I attended at least two if I remember correctly. I definitely remember attending one game in Oxford. To me, it makes perfect sense. I have no interest in the Cowboys or Lions, and I'd watch or attend any MAC game televised on Thursday or Friday of Thanksgiving week.
I've never been to the Black Friday games because I've always been out of town during those. When it comes around this year, I'll probably go as long as it isn't taking place during a cold rain.
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OhioStunter
11/1/2018 4:19 PM
I'm seeing a lot of "I would watch" or "I don't watch" here. WE are not the only targets here. Of course we'd watch whenever the games are on.

But our group of trusty fans alone won't keep the ESPNs of the world paying outrageous amounts of money to us to air these games.

Let's keep the non-Bobcat sports fans in mind. ESPN pays to reach the sports fan that tunes into any game simply because a game is on. The less competition, the more likely you'll get better viewership.
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ExCat21
11/1/2018 7:28 PM
If the game is scheduled before the NFL games on Turkey Day....it will get more attention than regular midweek games. A college game and an NFL game on the same day could work!!! Just don't schedule after the NFL game when everyone is stuffed and making leftover plates. Needs to be early in the day and before pro games.
Last Edited: 11/1/2018 7:30:46 PM by ExCat21
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mf279801
11/1/2018 10:19 PM
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Okay Football Gods, I'll make you a deal: if we keep playing like that in weeknight games, I won't complain about them ever again. Heck, if we do get to play them all like that, move'em all to weeknights!
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Mark Lembright '85
11/2/2018 8:43 AM
mf279801 wrote:expand_more
Okay Football Gods, I'll make you a deal: if we keep playing like that in weeknight games, I won't complain about them ever again. Heck, if we do get to play them all like that, move'em all to weeknights!
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OUVan
11/2/2018 8:51 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Maybe I'm alone on this, but I don't watch midweek MAC games - unless Ohio is on. I don't watch Thursday night NFL, unless the Bengals are on. I consume the majority of my sports Fri/Sat/Sun. The exception is college basketball, where I watch all kinds of games that aren't OU or UC basketball - my primary rooting interests in college hoops.

Thanksgiving and Christmas seasons would be an exception - I'd probably watch any and all football games with family if the MAC were playing. More interesting to me that watching the Lions and Cowboys year after year on Turkey Day.
I find I'm the opposite. My weekends are pretty packed with kids' activities so I end up watching more football during the week than on the weekend. And at this point I only watch MAC football so it works out great for me this time of year. I'm guessing I'm in the minority however.
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Long Train Runnin'
11/3/2018 7:10 PM
Question:

How do Eastern Michigan at Akron and Central Michigan at Bowling Green both get Saturday dates next week (11/10)? I can't remember the last time Ohio had a Saturday game in November (home or away).
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Bobcat110
11/4/2018 12:46 PM
Long Train Runnin' wrote:expand_more
Question:

How do Eastern Michigan at Akron and Central Michigan at Bowling Green both get Saturday dates next week (11/10)? I can't remember the last time Ohio had a Saturday game in November (home or away).
They’ve mostly sucked in recent years and lack interest from ESPN?
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