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cbus cat fan
4/28/2019 10:30 AM
The whole thing is rather perplexing. As much I dislike the Pittsburgh Steelers, I seem to recall someone making a comment on one of the draft shows, that the Steelers have someone who pretty much just scouts the MAC. This was made necessary due to all the diamonds in the rough they were able to procure from our conference. I would think other teams would be on to this as well, which makes me wonder if they just overlooked any Bobcats or just didn't think they were ready for the next level. Hopefully, we will soon hear about some undrafted free agent contracts and or some mini-camp tryouts.
Last Edited: 4/28/2019 10:31:34 AM by cbus cat fan
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bshot44
4/29/2019 11:37 AM
Buck.Cat wrote:expand_more
I'm surprised to see that no Bobcats were drafted. I read about this team reloading every year with studs at every position on the field. Wonder where the disconnect is?
Semi-delusional fan base/message board posters?

This isn't a surprise, to be honest. Lowery, maybe. White and Ouellette were undersized for their positions in NFL terms. That's not to say they won't impress and make an NFL roster ... but teams only have a finite amount of draft picks and to "waste" one on a guy they could very well get as an UDFA isn't a surprise.

No Bobcat was invited to the combine. That should've been your first hint that they weren't really on any draft radars.

They were fantastic players in the Ohio program and came THISclose to delivering a MAC title to a starving program the last couple years.

But realistically, that doesn't translate into being an NFL player.

I think some folks who frequent here look at things a little too much thru green-tinted glasses and get overly optimistic about the talent that fills out Ohio's roster. Can't blame them ... it's called being a fan ... even if it's being unrealistic sometimes.

Ohio has had a decent track record in the draft the last few years ... and have sprinkled some guys across the league. But it seems every year, you get on this board and read about how 5-7 guys should be drafted from Ohio. That's just not realistic. One, maybe two a year is more realistic ... but zero shouldn't come as a huge shocker.
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L.C.
4/29/2019 12:18 PM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
I'm surprised to see that no Bobcats were drafted. I read about this team reloading every year with studs at every position on the field. Wonder where the disconnect is?
Semi-delusional fan base/message board posters?

This isn't a surprise, to be honest. Lowery, maybe. White and Ouellette were undersized for their positions in NFL terms. That's not to say they won't impress and make an NFL roster ... but teams only have a finite amount of draft picks and to "waste" one on a guy they could very well get as an UDFA isn't a surprise.

No Bobcat was invited to the combine. That should've been your first hint that they weren't really on any draft radars.

They were fantastic players in the Ohio program and came THISclose to delivering a MAC title to a starving program the last couple years.

But realistically, that doesn't translate into being an NFL player.

I think some folks who frequent here look at things a little too much thru green-tinted glasses and get overly optimistic about the talent that fills out Ohio's roster. Can't blame them ... it's called being a fan ... even if it's being unrealistic sometimes.

Ohio has had a decent track record in the draft the last few years ... and have sprinkled some guys across the league. But it seems every year, you get on this board and read about how 5-7 guys should be drafted from Ohio. That's just not realistic. One, maybe two a year is more realistic ... but zero shouldn't come as a huge shocker.

I agree with what you are saying here. I don't think anyone really expects multiple guys to be drafted. I think they think 5-7 guys could be considered, and they hope one or maybe two get drafted. I think going in this year, based on the buzz, the expectation was that Lowery might be drafted in Round 7, and if not, he would get a UDFA contract, which is what happened. That White also got a UDFA contract is not surprising, either.

Really, the only disappointment I had was that AJ didn't get a contract, but only got a minicamp tryout. He's a guy that's overcome barriers before, and maybe he will again. I wish him luck.

One other thing about this class is that I wouldn't be surprised to find, a few years down the road, that several of them have become coaches.
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allen
4/29/2019 12:31 PM
I am bummed out about Anderson and Wood. Anderson appeared to get injured at the pro day. Heck I am still bummed about Pruehs.
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GoCats105
4/29/2019 1:32 PM
Another thing to keep in mind is the player's commitment to playing football as a career. Sometimes NFL teams may want these guys to make changes they aren't comfortable with.

I heard a story from a friend who was a former starting guard at Ohio State and played on one of their national championship teams. He didn't get drafted, but signed a free agent contract with an NFL team. After they told him they wanted him to gain 20-30 lbs to up his girth, he refused because he didn't think he would be as good a player at that weight. He got released shortly thereafter.
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L.C.
4/29/2019 6:45 PM
Here's the above list, again, with final draft results:
NIU Max Scharping OT 5.79 (chance to start): 2d, pick 23, Texans
CMU Sean Bunting CB 5.76 (chance to start): 2d, pick 7, Tampa Bay
Tol Diontae Johnson WR 5.59 (chance to start): 3rd, pick 2, Steelers
Tol Ka'dar Hollman CB 5.50 (chance to start): 6th, pick 12, Packers
Buf Anthony Johnson WR 5.49 (Backup) UDFA Buccaneers
EMU Maxx Crosby Edge 5.44 (Backup): 4th, pick 4, Raiders
CMU Xavier Crawford CB 5.42 (Backup): 6th, pick 23, Texans
Tol Cody Thompson WR 5.31 (Backup) UDFA Kansas City Chiefs
Buf Tyree Jackson QB 5.29 (Backup) UDFA Buffalo Bills
BG Scott Miller WR 5.25 (Backup): 6th, pick 36, Tampa Bay
Akr Ulysees Gilbert LB 5.22 (Backup): 6th, pick 35, Steelers
Akr Jamal Davis Edge 5.2 (Backup) UDFA Texans
Tol Jon'vea Johnson WR 5.17 (Better than avg chance) UDFA Cowboys
NIU Sutton Smith Edge 5.13 (Better than avg chance); 6th, pick 2, Steelers
Ohio Joe Lowery OG 5.04 (50:50 chance) UDFA Bears
Buf Khalil Hodge LB 4.97 (should be in camp) no info
Ohio AJ Ouellette 4.85 (should be in camp) Mini-camp invite, New Orleans

Plus some additions:
Tol Jason Moore WR - UDFA Chargers
Buf Chuck Harris DE - UDFA Bears
Buf Cam Lewis DB - UDFA Bills
Akr Bryan Bell LB - Mini-camp invite, Browns
NIU Josh Corcoran LB - UDFA Chargers
Tol Reggie Howard DT - UDFA Chargers
CMU Shakir Carr OG - Mini-camp invite Colts
Akr Kyron Brown CB - UDFA Jets
Miami(Ohio) Nate Becker TE - UDFA Lions
Kent Khalil Morris DL - UDFA Ravens
NIU Jalen Embry CB - UDFA Texans
WMU John Keenoy C - UDFA Vikings
Ohio - Eric Croutch LB - Mini-camp Tryout Jacksonville
Ohio - Kylan Nelson - Mini-camp tryout Arizona
Akr Kyron Brown CB - UDFA Dolphins
Buf James O'Hagan C - UDFA Giants
Ohio Papi White WR - UDFA Jaguars

I'm sure there will be more to add, and especially sure that the mini-camp invite list is very, very incomplete.
Last Edited: 4/29/2019 6:47:07 PM by L.C.
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L.C.
4/29/2019 6:51 PM
Sorting that by team:
NIU Max Scharping OT 5.79 (chance to start): 2d, pick 23, Texans
NIU Sutton Smith Edge 5.13 (Better than avg chance); 6th, pick 2, Steelers
NIU Josh Corcoran LB - UDFA Chargers
NIU Jalen Embry CB - UDFA Texans

CMU Sean Bunting CB 5.76 (chance to start): 2d, pick 7, Tampa Bay
CMU Xavier Crawford CB 5.42 (Backup): 6th, pick 23, Texans
CMU Shakir Carr OG - Mini-camp invite Colts

Tol Diontae Johnson WR 5.59 (chance to start): 3rd, pick 2, Steelers
Tol Ka'dar Hollman CB 5.50 (chance to start): 6th, pick 12, Packers
Tol Cody Thompson WR 5.31 (Backup) UDFA Kansas City Chiefs
Tol Jon'vea Johnson WR 5.17 (Better than avg chance) UDFA Cowboys
Tol Jason Moore WR - UDFA Chargers
Tol Reggie Howard DT - UDFA Chargers

Buf Anthony Johnson WR 5.49 (Backup) UDFA Buccaneers
Buf Tyree Jackson QB 5.29 (Backup) UDFA Buffalo Bills
Buf Khalil Hodge LB 4.97 (should be in camp) no info
Buf Chuck Harris DE - UDFA Bears
Buf Cam Lewis DB - UDFA Bills
Buf James O'Hagan C - UDFA Giants

Akr Ulysees Gilbert LB 5.22 (Backup): 6th, pick 35, Steelers
Akr Jamal Davis Edge 5.2 (Backup) UDFA Texans
Akr Bryan Bell LB - Mini-camp invite, Browns
Akr Kyron Brown CB - UDFA Jets or Dolphins?

Ohio Joe Lowery OG 5.04 (50:50 chance) UDFA Bears
Ohio Papi White WR - UDFA Jaguars
Ohio AJ Ouellette 4.85 (should be in camp) Mini-camp invite, New Orleans
Ohio - Eric Croutch LB - Mini-camp Tryout Jacksonville
Ohio - Kylan Nelson - Mini-camp tryout Arizona


EMU Maxx Crosby Edge 5.44 (Backup): 4th, pick 4, Raiders
BG Scott Miller WR 5.25 (Backup): 6th, pick 36, Tampa Bay
Miami(Ohio) Nate Becker TE - UDFA Lions
Kent Khalil Morris DL - UDFA Ravens
WMU John Keenoy C - UDFA Vikings
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