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colobobcat66
10/28/2019 1:01 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
The administration doesn’t care about what’s best for the students.

They care about not getting sued and saving their own jobs.

Jenny Hall-Jones should resign.
I mean, not getting sued is pretty important. I would like there to continue to be an Ohio University.

Lot of people are up in arms about the group suspensions, but if you're a student in a group that was suspended for a minor infraction or no infraction at all, what's the worst case scenario for you as a result? What is the measurable ramification for you or your group as a result of the suspension?
The Universty is sued all the time, and in a lot of cases it’s because of silly decisions that they have made.
And a lot of the time it is because there are 1 million plus lawyers going after the money. I can tell you most companies are willing to settle rather than have prolonged trials even if they’re innocent. We all know that don’t we?
University is not an easy target, they rarely settle.
I didn’t know that. It seems universities are settling suits all the time. A quick google search lists 3 in the last 6 years, including $670000 last year. Locals probably know of more.
Last Edited: 10/28/2019 1:06:43 PM by colobobcat66
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BillyTheCat
10/28/2019 2:30 PM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
The administration doesn’t care about what’s best for the students.

They care about not getting sued and saving their own jobs.

Jenny Hall-Jones should resign.
I mean, not getting sued is pretty important. I would like there to continue to be an Ohio University.

Lot of people are up in arms about the group suspensions, but if you're a student in a group that was suspended for a minor infraction or no infraction at all, what's the worst case scenario for you as a result? What is the measurable ramification for you or your group as a result of the suspension?
The Universty is sued all the time, and in a lot of cases it’s because of silly decisions that they have made.
And a lot of the time it is because there are 1 million plus lawyers going after the money. I can tell you most companies are willing to settle rather than have prolonged trials even if they’re innocent. We all know that don’t we?
University is not an easy target, they rarely settle.
I didn’t know that. It seems universities are settling suits all the time. A quick google search lists 3 in the last 6 years, including $670000 last year. Locals probably know of more.
And check how long it took to reach that $670K settlement. University is not dealing with their own money like a company. Pockets are much deeper, they have less exposure in many cases and simply try and kill them by delaying at every turn.
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rpbobcat
10/28/2019 2:59 PM
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I basically choose to settle 100% of the time because legal costs are almost always more expensive than the cost of making it go away. It's a shame, but not sure the solution.
The only time we can't settle is if the lawsuit claims "negligence".

Mistakes happen quite often in Land Surveying.

Its the "nature of the beast",especially in the 13 colonies,where everything follows Old English Common Law and relies on surveyor's expertise in interpreting information.

Its actually possible for 2 surveyors to arrive at different answers,yet both be correct.

That's why we have to separate what is an "honest mistake" from "negligence".

Negligence usually results in higher monetary penalties.
It can also result in a license suspension.
So its quite common to include it any complaint.

Usually one side,the other or both will retain an expert to confirm an error and determine whether they feel a mistake was due to negligence.

Hopefully,if the expert says there was no negligence, that wording is removed from the complaint and we can settle.

Some people don't care what their expert says, in the hope of getting a bigger payday.

These cases are normally heard in Chancery Court,with no jury.

In Chancery Court the Judges can ask questions of witnesses.
They tend to ask any expert "are all Land Surveying mistakes due to negligence ?"

After getting the requisite "no".

The next question: "was this mistake due to negligence ? (no)

If the expert was hired by the Plaintiff,the Judge will ask if he told that to his client ?.
If he says yes,watch for the fireworks.
Judges hate having their time wasted.

I've never seen a reputable Land Surveyor found liable for negligence.
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colobobcat66
10/28/2019 4:07 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
The administration doesn’t care about what’s best for the students.

They care about not getting sued and saving their own jobs.

Jenny Hall-Jones should resign.
I mean, not getting sued is pretty important. I would like there to continue to be an Ohio University.

Lot of people are up in arms about the group suspensions, but if you're a student in a group that was suspended for a minor infraction or no infraction at all, what's the worst case scenario for you as a result? What is the measurable ramification for you or your group as a result of the suspension?
The Universty is sued all the time, and in a lot of cases it’s because of silly decisions that they have made.
And a lot of the time it is because there are 1 million plus lawyers going after the money. I can tell you most companies are willing to settle rather than have prolonged trials even if they’re innocent. We all know that don’t we?
University is not an easy target, they rarely settle.
I didn’t know that. It seems universities are settling suits all the time. A quick google search lists 3 in the last 6 years, including $670000 last year. Locals probably know of more.
And check how long it took to reach that $670K settlement. University is not dealing with their own money like a company. Pockets are much deeper, they have less exposure in many cases and simply try and kill them by delaying at every turn.
I checked, it’s less than 2 years. That’s not a long time by any measure. You think that Ohio has deep pockets, you must be kidding.
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