They've been suspended from all non-academic group activities, but that apparently doesn't mean the homecoming parade or Saturday's game: https://www.thepostathens.com/article/2019/10/marching-11...

Halftime show idea for Saturday.

https://youtu.be/2wOcOBjB3uU

Clean House? They just got here! Enjoy the ride

Reading the thread on the "You know you went to OU" Facebook group has been entertaining. Lots of people not understanding what an investigation means or the difference between a student code of conduct and actual laws.

Some people however suggest there's some new employee somewhere who's in front of the suspensions for both Greek Life and the 110 other than Jenny Hall-Jones. Anyone know what that's about?

I had a dentist's appointment yesterday afternoon.

My dentist's sons went to a university where the Greeks were huge.

We had talked about their experiences,since my dad went there too.

He said while his sons,both Greeks,(don't know what frat) were undergrads,there was a big push by the Administration to try to "shut down" (his words) all frats and sororities.

Mentioned what happened at O.U.

He said his sons have been telling him that,based on what they hear from their Frat's National Organization,there is a big push against Greeks throughout the country,especially members of the IFC.

There may well be things that need resolved. For me, doing things that result in the loss of some Homecoming traditions is a bad move no matter what. Want to piss off some Alums who donate? Screw with Homecoming traditions. See: Moving the parade off Court Street, as an example.

A better move might be to publicly state every organization, and everyone involved in them should be on alert, because we're investigating all of your practices. Clean up your act, or get suspended/expelled immediately.

Another question: This seems like it's in response to an event from last November - yes? No? If so, why wait nearly a year to do some of this?

My two cents anyway. I'm not an alumnus of any fraternity by design, so I don't know what goes on during initiations. Some of it isn't a big deal, some of it probably is. Students dying as a consequence should result in permanent suspension of all parties involved with a one-time option to reinstate. No second get out of jail free card.

Bingo! Character should matter. Essentially no punishment.

that was years after she left Coastal. and we call that “sharing your cousin” here in the south.

I have friends who have had sons, daughters in the 110. There's some hazing. It wasn't terribly serious in their cases, but there is hazing.

Standing at attention in the mud of the Hocking for an hour. In another case, serving as a "slave" to their unit leaders. In some cases, it was all in good fun. In others, less so.

None of this is helping Ohio’s image. It may go on everywhere, but it’s not out in the open like it is now at Ohio. In spite of what they say, not all publicity is good.

Last week my wife and my and son were at a family gathering in Columbus, and all of the relatives were asking them about the hazing accusations. Everyone thought something really bad must be going on.

My wife and I were back in Cowtown yesterday and this morning. I had a board meeting that I had to attend. We were asked several times about all the hazing going on at OHIO. The impression was that we have a "hazing epidemic" going on down here.

This afternoon my wife met with some sorority sisters who were having a small reunion here in Athens. They wanted to know what the infractions were, but nobody knew and there was great puzzlement over the whole situation. Again, the impression was of a situation that was out of control.

As colorado said, this publicity ain't good. Regardless of the underlying facts, it's clear that by sweeping with such a broad brush that many reputations have been tarnished unfairly, which ones it is unclear at this point.

Bottom line, this has not handled well by the university. As my wife just said, as I was reading this post to her, with a little sarcasm and some hyperbole: "Want to rush a Greek group, you ain't going here. Want to join a business fraternity, you ain't going here. Want to go out for a club sport, you'll find another school."

Unfortunately, It may take a long time to recover the damage that's been done. What's sad is that it didn't have to be this way. If they had evidence that in a particular case there was hazing that might be potentially life threatening, you focus your efforts on that situation, you don't tar everyone with the same brush -- all fraternities, several sororities, academic fraternities, a club sport, and the marching band. IF there was hazing going on in all of these groups, it certainly wasn't of equal magnitude. Yet, the approach the university has taken gives that impression, especially to those in other areas around the state that hear only scattered news reports.

First off,in the current environment,it seems any allegation of hazing,against any organization,is going to result in a "cease and desist" order.

I think any action against the band directors depends on several things:

1.Were they aware of anything that could be considered hazing ?
For example lets say the tubas had a get together off campus and did
something considered hazing.

Unless a complaint is made,how could the band directors know ?

2.How was the hazing complaint made ?
Did a 110 member go to the band directors,make the hazing complaint and they reported it ?
If so,they followed O.U. Policy.

3.What actually happened ?

Till this comes out,there's no way to know if/what action may or may no be warranted.