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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:11 AM
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I gotta ask ... here we are 1st and goal on the 1 or 2. Why do we NEVER line up QB under center for either a sneak on the RB not needing to run 6 or 7 yards. If we get the TD great but I don't get the logic of not doing it.
I didn't get this when he who shall not be named was complaining about this all the time and I still don't get it.

1. I would never say it's a bad idea to mix things up once in a while, but we run all our plays from the shotgun. Even victory formation. Why do something unfamiliar in a critical situation?
2. I don't think this reasoning is sound. because even if the QB is under center, the rB is not at the line. He's still set back. he still has to run. it's a question of where/when he gets the ball. If he gets the ball immediately, from a shotgun qb, he can pick a place to run. If it's a straight ahead run from a qb under center and he gets the ball close to the line, he has less time/space to change direction.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:36 AM
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Sam made Sports Center Top 10. GO SAM

GO BOBCATS
What, Sam? Do you mean Jacoby Jones with the absolutely incredible 1 handed catch in stride at the 35 yard line for a 40+ gain? It was right in front of me and one of if not the best catches I have seen at Peden.

Regardless, I'd love if someone can find video of both the SC10 and the Jones catch somewhere.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:43 AM
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Kurtis Rourke NFL stock is trending sky high after the throws he made in this game.
Great for the program.
As a Steelers fan, something that stuck out to me was how quickly he identifies the sides of his pocket collapsing on an early play and stepped up into it before taking off for the first down. Just watched Kenny Pickett run backwards and take a huge sack in the same situation on Sunday…
Both Rourke brothers have tremendous pocket presence. There was an impressive play early last night where Kurtis felt the collapse and instinctively knew to run right, put his forearm into a defenders chest to shove him off and picked up a medium gain on the ground.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:45 AM
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Kurtis Rourke NFL stock is trending sky high after the throws he made in this game.

So much for the argument that he only became starter because of loyalty to his brother. Kurtis is an outstanding QB on his own merit.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:50 AM
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Kurtis Rourke NFL stock is trending sky high after the throws he made in this game.

So much for the argument that he only became starter because of loyalty to his brother. Kurtis is an outstanding QB on his own merit.
While I don’t think anyone thinks Kurtis is as good a runner as his brother, although he’s certainly adequate, he’s a better passer in my book
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Posted: 11/2/2022 11:28 AM
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According to Russell the Beefs had two individual players who were national stat leaders. One was a LB, I think it was, who leads the nation in solo tackles. The other was a C or S who leads the nation in interceptions. My question is whether or not the guy with that pick was the stat-leader guy. Does anyone know?
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Posted: 11/2/2022 11:36 AM
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Kurtis Rourke NFL stock is trending sky high after the throws he made in this game.

So much for the argument that he only became starter because of loyalty to his brother. Kurtis is an outstanding QB on his own merit.
While I don’t think anyone thinks Kurtis is as good a runner as his brother, although he’s certainly adequate, he’s a better passer in my book
Ohio's version of Eli and Peyton Manning.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 11:38 AM
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OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
According to Russell the Beefs had two individual players who were national stat leaders. One was a LB, I think it was, who leads the nation in solo tackles. The other was a C or S who leads the nation in interceptions. My question is whether or not the guy with that pick was the stat-leader guy. Does anyone know?
Having an inside linebacker with the most tackles in the conference its kind of like having the punter with the most total yards. It speaks to having an ineffectual defensive line that can't put pressure on the run and QB.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 11:41 AM
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Campus Flow wrote:expand_more
According to Russell the Beefs had two individual players who were national stat leaders. One was a LB, I think it was, who leads the nation in solo tackles. The other was a C or S who leads the nation in interceptions. My question is whether or not the guy with that pick was the stat-leader guy. Does anyone know?
Having an inside linebacker with the most tackles in the conference its kind of like having the punter with the most total yards. It speaks to having an ineffectual defensive line that can't put pressure on the run and QB.
I don't disagree with your analysis, but he didn't say "in the conference," he said in the nation.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 11:43 AM
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OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
According to Russell the Beefs had two individual players who were national stat leaders. One was a LB, I think it was, who leads the nation in solo tackles. The other was a C or S who leads the nation in interceptions. My question is whether or not the guy with that pick was the stat-leader guy. Does anyone know?
Having an inside linebacker with the most tackles in the conference its kind of like having the punter with the most total yards. It speaks to having an ineffectual defensive line that can't put pressure on the run and QB.
I don't disagree with your analysis, but he didn't say "in the conference," he said in the nation.
That's even worse lol.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 11:55 AM
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Campus Flow wrote:expand_more
According to Russell the Beefs had two individual players who were national stat leaders. One was a LB, I think it was, who leads the nation in solo tackles. The other was a C or S who leads the nation in interceptions. My question is whether or not the guy with that pick was the stat-leader guy. Does anyone know?
Having an inside linebacker with the most tackles in the conference its kind of like having the punter with the most total yards. It speaks to having an ineffectual defensive line that can't put pressure on the run and QB.
I don't disagree with your analysis, but he didn't say "in the conference," he said in the nation.
That's even worse lol.
I think we have the leading kickoff returner in the nation.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 11:56 AM
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
According to Russell the Beefs had two individual players who were national stat leaders. One was a LB, I think it was, who leads the nation in solo tackles. The other was a C or S who leads the nation in interceptions. My question is whether or not the guy with that pick was the stat-leader guy. Does anyone know?
Having an inside linebacker with the most tackles in the conference its kind of like having the punter with the most total yards. It speaks to having an ineffectual defensive line that can't put pressure on the run and QB.
I don't disagree with your analysis, but he didn't say "in the conference," he said in the nation.
That's even worse lol.
I think we have the leading kickoff returner in the nation.
it helps to look at the bigger picture
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Posted: 11/2/2022 12:06 PM
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I've always viewed the all MAC lists as a weak gage on measuring a program. A RB with 1,500 yards could be at a place like Akron where as the only quality RB they picked up all the carries. Kind of like Michael Jordan's third year in the NBA when he averaged 37 a game for the Bulls. Depth is more the name of the game.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 1:44 PM
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Campus Flow wrote:expand_more
I've always viewed the all MAC lists as a weak gage on measuring a program. A RB with 1,500 yards could be at a place like Akron where as the only quality RB they picked up all the carries. Kind of like Michael Jordan's third year in the NBA when he averaged 37 a game for the Bulls. Depth is more the name of the game.
Troy Davis at Iowa State, running for 2000 yards two years in a row for a team that won 5 games in that span
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Posted: 11/2/2022 3:34 PM
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I think we have the leading kickoff returner in the nation.

Ohio, as a team, has returned 39 kicks for an average of 18.46 yards/return, good for 98th in the country. Ohio is #1 in terms of number of kick returns, 3 ahead of Arkansas State. Because of the very large number of returns, Ohio is 4th in the country in total yards of returns. On an individual basis, Wilburn is #31 in the country, with an average of 23 yards per return.

In a day where you can fair catch kickoffs and end up at the 25, they really need another way of ranking kickoff returns. If you return a kick from the endzone to the 16 yard line, it should be a return of -9 yards, not a return of 16 yards.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 7:31 PM
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Posted: 11/2/2022 7:32 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
I think we have the leading kickoff returner in the nation.

Ohio, as a team, has returned 39 kicks for an average of 18.46 yards/return, good for 98th in the country. Ohio is #1 in terms of number of kick returns, 3 ahead of Arkansas State. Because of the very large number of returns, Ohio is 4th in the country in total yards of returns. On an individual basis, Wilburn is #31 in the country, with an average of 23 yards per return.

In a day where you can fair catch kickoffs and end up at the 25, they really need another way of ranking kickoff returns. If you return a kick from the endzone to the 16 yard line, it should be a return of -9 yards, not a return of 16 yards.
Sarcasm. LC
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Posted: 11/2/2022 8:30 PM
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. . . .In a day where you can fair catch kickoffs and end up at the 25, they really need another way of ranking kickoff returns. If you return a kick from the endzone to the 16 yard line, it should be a return of -9 yards, not a return of 16 yards.
I agree with this. I don't see it this as sarcasm at all, but as a very reasonable proposal.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:11 PM
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. . . .In a day where you can fair catch kickoffs and end up at the 25, they really need another way of ranking kickoff returns. If you return a kick from the endzone to the 16 yard line, it should be a return of -9 yards, not a return of 16 yards.
I agree with this. I don't see it this as sarcasm at all, but as a very reasonable proposal.
My comment about leading in kickoffs was what I was referring to, not LC’s comment
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:17 PM
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
. . . .In a day where you can fair catch kickoffs and end up at the 25, they really need another way of ranking kickoff returns. If you return a kick from the endzone to the 16 yard line, it should be a return of -9 yards, not a return of 16 yards.
I agree with this. I don't see it this as sarcasm at all, but as a very reasonable proposal.
My comment about leading in kickoffs was what I was referring to, not LC’s comment
Got, it . . . thanks for the clarification.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:35 PM
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My comment about leading in kickoffs was what I was referring to, not LC’s comment

I recognized your sarcasm. My detailed reply was intended to show that that I agreed with you. Sarcasm is the most biting when it is close to the truth, and I was trying to show just how close your statement was: If you use a warped method for evaluating kickoff returns, total yards, Ohio is indeed close to the leader, but if you use a more reasonable measure, average return, Ohio is very close to the bottom.
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