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Posted: 9/8/2010 3:19 PM
I read on another site that Derek Roback former waverly tiger qb/lb has quit Notre dame and enrolled at Ohio. Anyone heard anything ?  here is the link  http://www.southeasternohiopreps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=74551
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Posted: 9/8/2010 3:24 PM
It is the word on the street, yes.

Notre Dame bio.

ESPN recruit profile.

Senior highlight video.
Last Edited: 9/8/2010 3:26:44 PM by Mike Coleman
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Posted: 9/8/2010 3:45 PM
Can someone put this in perspective for me? Seems huge.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 3:54 PM
Well, he has yet to suit up for a practice or even enroll as far as I know, but if this is indeed true I guess it's pretty big. From what I hear and see, he's a great athlete who might want a legit shot at QB or some offensive position. He wasn't given that at ND, where he moved back and forth between safety and OLB from Day One of camp. (Or maybe it was a homesickness thing? ) What I didn't hear is that he was terrible at ND, yet it must be remembered he was mostly a so-called MAC-level recruit--and a Toledo verbal--before Kelly got the job at ND. Roback signing last-minute at ND was pretty surprising at the time.

I would like to see something a little more official before I get excited.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 4:16 PM
4 years to play 4, if true?
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Posted: 9/8/2010 4:35 PM
Yep.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:37 PM
Did not see this thread when I posted similar information.  Sorry.  I didn't mean to preempt you.  It looks like you posted this a few hours before I did.  
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:17 AM
Wow...Lot of different throws in that video boys!  This obviously wouldn't be the first time a MAC team benefitted from the short sightedness of your typical "big time" program.  You can't blame the kid for blindly falling under the spell of an offer from ND...When was the last time you saw a starting QB take out 3 defenders that far down field on special teams?  And a 4.0 GPA to boot! LOVE the fact that he's a legacy as well.  This is big!  Good golly I love OUr new program!
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:23 AM
One question, and I am glad that Derek is a Bobcat, but how do you commit to a school and never discuss what position they see you playing?  That is right from a quote by Derek in the first link posted by Mike, how does that question not cross your mind?
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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:46 AM
Interesting.  Didn't he verbal somewhere else before going to Notre Dame?

I guess you take a flyer on the kid and see if it works out.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 9:59 AM
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Interesting.  Didn't he verbal somewhere else before going to Notre Dame?

I guess you take a flyer on the kid and see if it works out.


Toledo.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 10:52 AM
Was he a Weis recruit or a late Kelly recruit?

If it was the former, it's pretty clear how he didn't have the position discussion.

We're talking about the coaching stylings of Charlie Weis here. The man had never been a head coach of a team bigger than Franklin High School in New Jersey, let alone the most cherished football institution in America.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 11:05 AM
"Roback had originally committed to Toledo in August 2009. But when new Irish coach Kelly came calling in January, Roback acknowledged he became thunderstruck that Notre Dame was after him.

“We had never really talked about [playing quarterback] because it was such a whirlwind right before Signing Day,” said Roback.

Roback admitted he wasn’t promised anything by Kelly but was disappointed that he didn’t really know what his position was going to be for a long time. There was originally some speculation that he would be a tight end. Then in the summer, the indication was outside linebacker. Finally, with the Irish thin at safety after freshman
Chris Badger left for a Mormon mission in Ecuador, Roback was lined up at safety.

“I really wanted to play on the offensive side of the ball,” Roback said. “It’s not that I disliked [safety] … I’m a quarterback at heart, I guess. It’s something I really missed.”"

That's the point I was trying to get at earlier...I honestly can't fault a kid for being enamored by a late call from Brian Kelly.  Not only was it an offer from Notre Dame but the man was the center of college football news at the time.  It seems like all he really wanted was to play on the offensive side of the ball and I'm sure that was alluded to during their conversations...But we all know how things take turns especially when a position ends up thin and he was recruited as an athlete to begin with.

Why in the world he would verbal Toledo rather than his Dad's Alma Mater to begin with is beyond me but things have obviously come full circle and it seems like Ohio won in the end!  If this kid was good enough to be on Doc's radar to begin with and he was good enough to warrant an offer from Brian Kelly who can most certainly judge talent...I for one am GEEKED!

I'm guessing his decision could also have an impact on other immediate recruit decisions as well...The Green & White momentum continues to roll...
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Posted: 9/9/2010 11:14 AM
So, let's assume he's slotted at QB (don't know why he would transfer if he's not told he'll be a QB). Let's also assume that Phil gets the start next year. Also, let's assume Tettleton red shirts this year (given that it's clearly between Boo and Phil this year, I don't see why we wouldn't red shirt Tettleton, barring injury).

That leaves us 2 years from now with a 3-way QB battle between Tettleton, Roback, and Snyder, each of whom have at least 2 years eligibility remaining. Awesome problem to have!
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Posted: 9/9/2010 11:16 AM
You know what, nevermind. As soon as I hit "Submit Message," I regretted the post. I'm getting way too ahead of things and making way too many assumptions.

Toledo is the focus. Toledo, Toledo, Toledo.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 11:29 AM
Brian Smith wrote:expand_more
Was he a Weis recruit or a late Kelly recruit?

If it was the former, it's pretty clear how he didn't have the position discussion.

We're talking about the coaching stylings of Charlie Weis here. The man had never been a head coach of a team bigger than Franklin High School in New Jersey, let alone the most cherished football institution in America.


He was one of Kelly's first recruits, says he got caught up in the hype and forgot to ask that more or less.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 11:34 AM
C Money wrote:expand_more
So, let's assume he's slotted at QB (don't know why he would transfer if he's not told he'll be a QB). Let's also assume that Phil gets the start next year. Also, let's assume Tettleton red shirts this year (given that it's clearly between Boo and Phil this year, I don't see why we wouldn't red shirt Tettleton, barring injury).

That leaves us 2 years from now with a 3-way QB battle between Tettleton, Roback, and Snyder, each of whom have at least 2 years eligibility remaining. Awesome problem to have!


Never too early to talk about the future.

I'd be surprised if we even went after a QB now for our next class....just another schollie for an area of need.

Those are 3 fine QB's.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 11:40 AM
I'd go for a QB.  Way too much change from 1 year to the next to count on anything for certain.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 12:37 PM
Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
So, let's assume he's slotted at QB (don't know why he would transfer if he's not told he'll be a QB). Let's also assume that Phil gets the start next year. Also, let's assume Tettleton red shirts this year (given that it's clearly between Boo and Phil this year, I don't see why we wouldn't red shirt Tettleton, barring injury).

That leaves us 2 years from now with a 3-way QB battle between Tettleton, Roback, and Snyder, each of whom have at least 2 years eligibility remaining. Awesome problem to have!


Never too early to talk about the future.

I'd be surprised if we even went after a QB now for our next class....just another schollie for an area of need.

Those are 3 fine QB's.


What makes you say those three are fine?  Bates has played not even one half and is a great athlete, but we have NO idea of how he throws the ball.  Tettelton well he's played, but did we see him throw the ball last year?  Roback, was recruited by way more schools as a TE/HB and LB than he was a QB.  Not to mention you can never have enough QB's
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Posted: 9/9/2010 1:51 PM
John C. Wanamaker wrote:expand_more
So, let's assume he's slotted at QB (don't know why he would transfer if he's not told he'll be a QB). Let's also assume that Phil gets the start next year. Also, let's assume Tettleton red shirts this year (given that it's clearly between Boo and Phil this year, I don't see why we wouldn't red shirt Tettleton, barring injury).

That leaves us 2 years from now with a 3-way QB battle between Tettleton, Roback, and Snyder, each of whom have at least 2 years eligibility remaining. Awesome problem to have!


Never too early to talk about the future.

I'd be surprised if we even went after a QB now for our next class....just another schollie for an area of need.

Those are 3 fine QB's.


What makes you say those three are fine?  Bates has played not even one half and is a great athlete, but we have NO idea of how he throws the ball.  Tettelton well he's played, but did we see him throw the ball last year?  Roback, was recruited by way more schools as a TE/HB and LB than he was a QB.  Not to mention you can never have enough QB's


Debbie Downer returns......high school stats.....film.......birdies......c'mon John....how does anybody predict success for guys who have played little college ball?

Even from college to pro it's a guessing game.....sure he dropped to  an overall #10...but that's still high for a first round pick and for a QB.....just released ie. Matt Leinart.


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Posted: 9/9/2010 2:22 PM
Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
So, let's assume he's slotted at QB (don't know why he would transfer if he's not told he'll be a QB). Let's also assume that Phil gets the start next year. Also, let's assume Tettleton red shirts this year (given that it's clearly between Boo and Phil this year, I don't see why we wouldn't red shirt Tettleton, barring injury).

That leaves us 2 years from now with a 3-way QB battle between Tettleton, Roback, and Snyder, each of whom have at least 2 years eligibility remaining. Awesome problem to have!


Never too early to talk about the future.

I'd be surprised if we even went after a QB now for our next class....just another schollie for an area of need.

Those are 3 fine QB's.


What makes you say those three are fine?  Bates has played not even one half and is a great athlete, but we have NO idea of how he throws the ball.  Tettelton well he's played, but did we see him throw the ball last year?  Roback, was recruited by way more schools as a TE/HB and LB than he was a QB.  Not to mention you can never have enough QB's


Debbie Downer returns......high school stats.....film.......birdies......c'mon John....how does anybody predict success for guys who have played little college ball?

Even from college to pro it's a guessing game.....sure he dropped to  an overall #10...but that's still high for a first round pick and for a QB.....just released ie. Matt Leinart.


Back to the end of my comments, can you really ever have enough?  Every kid who is offered DI has a nice looking highlight tape, Bums have been rated high before.  You just keep trying to find the best talent you have!  The attitude of we are set cost Ohio University a shot at the winningest Quarterback in MAC History.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 2:50 PM
I personally would like to see 1-2 QB's in every class, and if they are dual thread QB's, two in every class. QB is a critical position, and also one where you can get a lot of injuries, so I think competition at that spot, and depth is very important. There is more to it than that, though. Those types tend to be talented athletes, and if they don't end up at QB, they can make their mark elsewhere. Over the years I've seen QB recruits end up at WR and TE on offense, and LB and DB on defense. Roback apparently could play TE, OLB, or safety. Dovell is a QB playing WR. Wosely is a QB playing OLB. Bates could play a lot of positions.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 5:07 PM
Just read a thread on IrishEnvy regarding Derek's transfer to Ohio...That's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.  I already appreciated this board and all of you but that experience renewed my faith in the BobcatAttack community tenfold so I wanted to say THANKS to everyone! 
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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:29 PM
So we get a quarterback from ND, an offensive lineman from Florida State, a defensive end from Indiana and a running back from Iowa State all added to the roster next year. Am I forgetting anyone? Plus a recruitting class, things ain't so bad.
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