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Posted: 9/7/2010 2:25 PM
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This weekend I am going to be rooting for Ohio State to beat Miami, because I want OU to get the pleasure of ruining their season. Heck, maybe even Alabama will lose and Ohio State will be No. 1 when we beat them.

That would be awesome.

Beating Ohio State in football at their place, when they are national championship hopeful, would be even better than beating Georgetown in the NCAA tourney, I think.
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To put a twist on the popular expression/T shirt here in Boston in relation to the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry:

"My two favorite teams are Ohio and whoever is playing Ohio A&M."

I really like Miami this week...alot.  I hope they make Pryor a Cryer just like Pooh-Doo did last season.  For Ohio to add insult to an injured A&M team would be even sweeter for me, IMHO.

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Posted: 9/7/2010 3:22 PM
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And it begins...............again................

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Posted: 9/7/2010 3:29 PM
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Ozcat wrote:expand_more

And it begins...............again................



You mean the part where we want our favorite college football team to beat a team on its schedule? Or were you expecting Ohio to bring myrrh to the game to offer to the Buckeye players?

The folks in Ann Arbor are rooting against Ohio State this week. Try not to be shocked.




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Posted: 9/7/2010 4:03 PM
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Ozcat wrote:expand_more

And it begins...............again................



I think you meant to log on to bucknuts.com.
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I'll be there in my green and white.  I will just leave much more content than most because I'm not going into this thing thinking we actually have a shot like some delusional fans on this board.  I'm prepared for a shellacking.  If we stay within 3 TDs I'll consider it a moral victory.
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i want whatever will aid Ohio's chances of victory in 2 weeks, and to my mind, that means OSU beating Miami by about 51-3.  I want them fat, happy and overconfident on the 18th...
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Its going to be improbable to take out Ohio State in the horeshoe without Kellen Moore level QB play. Bates and Boo just are not Heisman level guys. Fortunately Solich has slowly put enough pieces together in the offense that we can win the division with medicore QB play (I'm not saying that Bates and Boo are medicore here by any means). After what the Bobcats did in 2008 if Ohio can put 25 on the Buckeyes and show some real offensive life that will be an improvement even if Ohio State puts up 40.
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Ozcat wrote:expand_more
I'll be there in my green and white.  I will just leave much more content than most because I'm not going into this thing thinking we actually have a shot like some delusional fans on this board.  I'm prepared for a shellacking.  If we stay within 3 TDs I'll consider it a moral victory.


Do us a favor and wear your A&M colors instead. There's nothing delusional about wanting your team to win, regardless of the odds, that what being a true fan is all about. I'm guessing you were pretty quick to tell everybody you know that you're a bobcat "fan" after we beat Georgetown, right? Were we delusional for believing we could win that one too?

There's a difference between being a true fan and being an apologist who cops out and jumps on the band wagon of the more popular team when its more convenient for them. I don't know what your affiliation is to that team in Columbus and frankly I don't care, but spare us with the patronizing talk about moral victories.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:28 PM
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If we stay within 3 TDs I'll consider it a moral victory.


Also the mantra of Buckeye fans when they play an SEC team.

Not putting on your heart on your sleeve cause you're afraid to get hurt is no way to live in life...let alone approach something as farcical as a football game.
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And it begins...............again................



You should know better. There will always be Ohio State hate here no matter what happens. Just don't fight it and live with it. That's what I do.

Then again... at least I am rooting for Ohio to pull the upset, no matter how badly that would hurt my other favorite team, OSU.
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perimeter - No thanks.  I'll wear my green and white.  Everyone who has met me knows where my allegiance, first and foremost, lies.  Delusion is not wanting your team to win -- that would be fandom.  In this case, delusion is actually believing we stand a realistic shot.  I want OU to win.  I believe we are going to get killed.

Smith - Touche.  Everyone loves the 0-9 record against the SEC.  I will point out, that prior to the BCS, anytime OSU was at the top of their game, they were not playing SEC teams in their bowl game.  The record would look slightly different if that were the case.
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Let me also point out that the much maligned (and properly so) school in Oxford, Ohio, beat three SEC teams in bowl games three years in a row in the early 1970s.  Admittedly these weren't the best schools in the SEC at the time, but the preppies were decided underdogs in each game and came out the winner.  At one time a few decades ago, Oxford Tech actually had a record something like 8-0-1 against the SEC.  They've slipped since then and have lost to several SEC teams in the last decade or so.  I wonder how OSWho would have done against the three aforementioned SEC teams in those years.  If memory serves they were Florida, Georgia and South Carolina (a school that's been in an out of the SEC over the years).  Just putting that out so that the A&M apologists can have something to have an arrogant laugh about and then tell the rest of us how Cowtown Tech would have creamed even the SEC winner in those years because everyone knew back then that the B10 was the best conference in the known universe. 
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Miami had a great run, but in the 70's those schools were not very good, the SEC is nothing today like it was then.  Let us also remember that the SEC is by far and away the most penalized conference in the history of the NCAA for cheating.  No sour grapes just a cold hard fact.
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Miami had a great run, but in the 70's those schools were not very good, the SEC is nothing today like it was then.  . . . 
 

You apparently never talked to my Navy buddies in the mid 1960s.  I remember endless shipboard discussions aimed at straightening out the warped thinking of this "Midwest Puke" (so dubbed by my CPO) so that I would recognize that the SEC was the best conference this side of Mars.  I don't remember the details of their arguments, but they involved endless comparative scores between SEC and Midwest teams with the SEC always coming out looking like they were superior. And, the PAC 8 wasn't even worthy enough to deserve mention in most of their arguments.  Maybe if I'd  been from California and was a Beach Bum instead of a Midwest Puke they would have modified their arguments.  Hmm . . . any of this sound a little familiar? 
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Miami had a great run, but in the 70's those schools were not very good, the SEC is nothing today like it was then.  . . . 
 

You apparently never talked to my Navy buddies in the mid 1960s.  I remember endless shipboard discussions aimed at straightening out the warped thinking of this "Midwest Puke" (so dubbed by my CPO) so that I would recognize that the SEC was the best conference this side of Mars.  I don't remember the details of their arguments, but they involved endless comparative scores between SEC and Midwest teams with the SEC always coming out looking like they were superior. And, the PAC 8 wasn't even worthy enough to deserve mention in most of their arguments.  Maybe if I'd  been from California and was a Beach Bum instead of a Midwest Puke they would have modified their arguments.  Hmm . . . any of this sound a little familiar? 


Let me also state that the Big 10 is not what it was then as well.  In those times both conferences were overwhelmingly dominated by two teams, and the others were simply not that good, mainly because they did not take advantage of the lax rules and spend the money on 150 scholarships a year, or my favorite example is in 1974 Pitt gave out 87 scholarships to freshmen alone!!!!!  Many schools were not willing to keep up with that type of reckless spending.  Bear and Woody routinely offered kids scholarships to keep them from going to other Big 10 and SEC schools, knowing full well that kid may never see the field.

And for the record I have not said the SEC is not arguably the best conference in college football, only that they are also the most penalized for cheating.
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I hope OSU losses 40-0, but it won't happen.

And Tressel immediately resigns and 40 players quit and transfer to USC.
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
I hope OSU losses 40-0, but it won't happen.

And Tressel immediately resigns and 40 players quit and transfer to USC.


And Tressel immediately resigns and 40 players quit and transfer to Ohio.

*Had to fix that for ya.
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I hope OSU losses 40-0, but it won't happen.

And Tressel immediately resigns and 40 players quit and transfer to USC.


And Tressel immediately resigns and 40 players quit and transfer to Ohio.

*Had to fix that for ya.

Good one-I missed that angle. I'd take just 20 if I had to.
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perimeter - No thanks.  I'll wear my green and white.  Everyone who has met me knows where my allegiance, first and foremost, lies.  Delusion is not wanting your team to win -- that would be fandom.  In this case, delusion is actually believing we stand a realistic shot.  I want OU to win.  I believe we are going to get killed.

Smith - Touche.  Everyone loves the 0-9 record against the SEC.  I will point out, that prior to the BCS, anytime OSU was at the top of their game, they were not playing SEC teams in their bowl game.  The record would look slightly different if that were the case.


What did you think about our chances before the game a couple of years back?

I guess that was not a real good columbus team.  But neither were we--final record 4-8.  Yet we led as late as a few minutes into the 4th quarter.

It's a pretty long shot that we'll win, though not in the realm of delusion.  Why is it so delusional to think that we'll compete?

Were you the one who posted that not one of our starters could start for columbus?

Who was the best linebacker on the field two years ago?  Hint:  He wasn't named Laurinaitis (sp?); he wore #47 in Green and White.
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What did you think about our chances before the game a couple of years back?

I thought we would lose, and we did.  At no point did I think we would hold on for the win.  And at no point were any OSU fans even nervous that they wouldn't pull it out.

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Were you the one who posted that not one of our starters could start for columbus?

Sure was.  I stand by it.


Monroe Slavin, CPA wrote:expand_more
Who was the best linebacker on the field two years ago?  Hint:  He wasn't named Laurinaitis (sp?); he wore #47 in Green and White.

His name actually was Laurinaitus, who led OSU with 9 tackles and had a pick.  Keller had 7 tackles that day, and he is a nice player.  The Laurinaitus guyyou speak negatively off -- all he was doing last year was leading the NFC in rookie tackles, and finishing 2nd in the entire NFL in rookie tackles, behind some guy who will be sitting out a few games this year for testing positive for PHDs.  Yeah, he wasn't the best linebacker on the field.

Please think before you spout off useless banter.
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I'll be there in my green and white.  I will just leave much more content than most because I'm not going into this thing thinking we actually have a shot like some delusional fans on this board.  I'm prepared for a shellacking.  If we stay within 3 TDs I'll consider it a moral victory.

Just curious, but how would you react if Ohio did win? Would be actually be sick inside, despite the green and white on the outside?

As regards Ohio players that might start for Ohio State, how many Ohio State receivers were drafted ahead of Price last year?  Unless the answer is 3, perhaps he could have started for OSU. Ohio has had a player drafted each of the last three years. It is quite possible that Ohio will have another drafted this year, perhaps Keller or Brazill. If they do, you may find that your comment was wrong.
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perimeter - No thanks.  I'll wear my green and white.  Everyone who has met me knows where my allegiance, first and foremost, lies.  Delusion is not wanting your team to win -- that would be fandom.  In this case, delusion is actually believing we stand a realistic shot.  I want OU to win.  I believe we are going to get killed.


This is assinine.  Two years ago we were an inferior team to what we are today, while the Suckeyes were ranked #3 in the country.  And we had a real chance to win that game until the punt return for a TD with 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

Now you can say that that was a fluke if you want, but the total yardage numbers (272 vs. 254) suggest otherwise.  Even if it was a fluke, there is no reason that such a fluke can't happen again, especially given that the Suckeyes will be due for a let down after this weekend's marquee game. 

Overall, I'd say we've got around a 5% chance of winning.  Not good by any means, but not so low as to make rooting for an Ohio win delusional. 
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What did you think about our chances before the game a couple of years back?

I thought we would lose, and we did.  At no point did I think we would hold on for the win.  And at no point were any OSU fans even nervous that they wouldn't pull it out.

Were you the one who posted that not one of our starters could start for columbus?

Sure was.  I stand by it.


Who was the best linebacker on the field two years ago?  Hint:  He wasn't named Laurinaitis (sp?); he wore #47 in Green and White.

His name actually was Laurinaitus, who led OSU with 9 tackles and had a pick.  Keller had 7 tackles that day, and he is a nice player.  The Laurinaitus guyyou speak negatively off -- all he was doing last year was leading the NFC in rookie tackles, and finishing 2nd in the entire NFL in rookie tackles, behind some guy who will be sitting out a few games this year for testing positive for PHDs.  Yeah, he wasn't the best linebacker on the field.

Please think before you spout off useless banter.


What let facts get in Monroe's way? 
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Just curious, but how would you react if Ohio did win? Would be actually be sick inside, despite the green and white on the outside?

As regards Ohio players that might start for Ohio State, how many Ohio State receivers were drafted ahead of Price last year?  Unless the answer is 3, perhaps he could have started for OSU. Ohio has had a player drafted each of the last three years. It is quite possible that Ohio will have another drafted this year, perhaps Keller or Brazill. If they do, you may find that your comment was wrong.


LC, I would be elated.  Not quite Georgetown win elated, but close.

Now, check some facts before you spout off dead-end questions.  How many Ohio State receivers declared for the draft?  None.  They return their top 4 WRs.  Keller may get drafted.  He would be lucky to sniff time as OSU's 3rd LB this year, as Sweat is likely still better.


Two years ago the perfect scenario happened for OU.  USC loomed ahead, Beanie was hurt, Tressel had no idea who his QB was for most of the game, and the O-line was bbaaaadddddd.  We took advantage.  This year's OSU is much different and I believe it doesn't matter how much better we may be.  They destroyed a Marshall team that beat us last year.  While this doesn't mean a whole lot, it is a measuring stick of sorts.  My forecast remains the same.
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