What does a successful season look like to you?

For me, we have to be bowl-eligible. That would at least mean doubling our win total and aligns us with the worst of the Solich era (debut season excluded) when the program was still stable. Six wins and I'd be willing to see where the upward trend leads.

The moment we suffer seven losses in the regular season, I would expect that Julie moves on.

EDIT: Forgot that 2008 was bad, but my memory is that we got smoked out by injury bad luck.

2008 was a huge turnover year as well. cost us an all-time shocker against OSU, and CMU the following week. T3 got hurt against osu. that team could easily have won 8 or 9.

I'd like to hope that Cromer is already in the process of finding a replacement for Coach A. Everybody can see the green and white writing on the walls.

5-7 could keep Coach A's job (we are the Ohio Team that is in the MAC).

6-6 or 6-7 I'd vote to keep him another year.

It's not so much THAT we lost nine games last year, it was the bumbling and stumbling through the season that was hard to take. We couldn't get BACK to our own one yard line three times out of five last season, and even Rogers's record-setting 99-yd TD run against Buffalo was wasted after we blew a 21-0 lead and gave them an extra chance to kick the game-winning FG. (I won't even mention Duquesne.) The best game we played was probably the EMU game. The MOFO game was more a non-loss than a win; if their kicker doesn't miss a PAT, we probably wind up losing after having a 28-0 lead. We even trailed Akron in the 3rd quarter before pulling out a win. But just as the team looked like things were turning around, they backslid vs Toledo and BG. Same old mistakes they were making early in the season.

We're probably going to look bad against Penn St and Iowa St, so anything less than a 28-pt loss there will probably be a miracle. At least keeping it close against FAU in the opener might be the best we can hope for as good as the Owls looked against Charlotte last week. A win against Fordham is a necessity; a loss should mean we have an interim coach and start the national search. If he's still here come October, four wins in the MAC should be the minimum.

With all this in mind, I'd put five wins as a minimum, provided that we don't wind up beating ourselves such as we did last season.

Bowl eligible to even think about keeping him. Anything less he should be toast.

I don't think anybody is gonna win twice with Nebraska's discards.

Agree. Bowl eligible, so six wins. which probably means 2-2 OOC and 4-4 in conference OR 1-3 and 5-3. That to me makes this Saturday a real telltale sign of his fate. we lose and he’s looking at having to go 5-3 in conference (we go 0-4 OOC he’s calling a moving van). we go 1-3 and 4-4 he’s going to need some very serious style points in conference losses and no blowouts in conference to stay on.

I could care less how he answers questions if he’s winning the MAC. Let’s not act like Frank was always media savvy. He beats FAU and he’s off to a great start.

Why?

[QUOTE=L.C.] I think eight or more wins will get him a long term contract, and seven wins

I don’t care if this guy goes undefeated. I would never, ever give him a long term contract. Where’s he going to go?if he is on anything beyond a two year deal it’s a major mistake.

Yes, you got my inference alright.

I really don't get the point of all this. It's the beginning of a new season.

Who gives a shit if he is a hotshot on camera? Frank was a terrible interview.

Why so much animosity? Players seem to like Albin -- doesn't that count for something?

Albin is the hand-picked successor to the guy for whom the field was just named. Out of respect I’ll hold off on commenting.