If FSU went undefeated this year, they would collect wins @Oklahoma, @Miami, against North Carolina and Florida, and an ACC Championship win.  That would be fairly impressive.


Why can't people like Boise for what they are?  They have a great story.  Their players propose to cheerleaders after bowl wins.  They eat potatoes.  It's great.  They are a nice, quality football team that probably deserves to be ranked around 8-12.  That is pretty darn good.  But to think they are this now elite program is a joke.  They have 13 players on NFL rosters.  Florida had 9 drafted last year alone!  Let them play their BCS game each year they are worthy and move on from the whole 'they deserve a shot' argument.

2007:  Washington  24-10, Hawaii  39-27, the powerhouse that is ECU  41-38

2008:  TCU  17-16 in the always riveting Poinsettia bowl

Boise is so good that only perennial powers can beat 'em....  (That's also 4 losses, not 2 -- proficient research)

Looking purely at past results, when Louisville upgraded from CUSA to the Big East, Virginia Tech from the Big East to the ACC they pretty much continued their dominating ways for seasons to come. A top 15 team can pretty much top 15 in any conference. Its more the mid level bowl teams those that win 8 or 9 in a weaker conference that receive schedule shock by moving up to a stronger strength of schedule. Everyone thought VT was going to be over their head in the ACC and they won the conference in the first season. I love how the Big Ten strength is thrown about here as an impossibility for Boise when its been the weakest BCS conference over the past 5 years or so top to bottom.

57-2 regular season.  Point being they have earned the right this year IF they keep it rolling in the right direction.  Here is hoping that OSU loses a game and gets replaced by Boise in the title game.  Good for Boise.  Great to see as a Ohio grad and the bitching and moaning from Columbus may be just what we need to move to a playoff. 

The world is changing.  And with it folks are going to have to get past their historical "I don't mind those kind of people (I have friends that go to schools just like that), I just don't think they are worthy of fully associating with people like me."

Ah I remember the days when the PAC 10 and Big Ten said they would never give up the whole Rose Bowl thing.

Of course those school would LOVE to face Boise State in the championship game. But if Boise gets in over a perceived 'power' team the winner MAY get heat.

Here is the perfect scenario... Ohio State faces Boise St and wins by 10. But Boise got in over a 1-loss SEC team and that SEC team destroys whoever they face in the Sugar Bowl. How many people would be screaming 'Luckeyes' only can win when they don't play a SEC team in the championship... blah blah blah. That SEC team would have blown out Boise...

So while almost any team would love to play Boise in the title game, some teams would be perceived differently (like if the SEC team won and Boise got in over a 1-loss power team like Texas, Oklahoma or Ohio St) then all would be fine in the world.

Piney is all over it.  All the OSU haters should be praying for an OSU/Boise matchup.

If Boise wins, you can have a ball with your OSU blows posts.  If OSU wins, the 'well they played Boise so it doesn't really count' rants could commence.

In my perfect world, Boise plays some interested party in any BCS game, gets waxed, and then we can go on with life without title talk for Boise, and just BCS matchups when they have excellent seasons.

If the ACC is a joke it's only because Miami and FSU have been not so good lately.

I love how 80% of people are using Ohio State as your argument, get over the Buckeyes there are a dozen other teams in the country that play majority home games, make millions of dollars and rarely go on the road.  Quit showing your penis envy of those guys.

To the person who says the Big 10 is the worse BCS Conference top to bottom, please do not drive at night as there are a lot of law enforcement officers and the are cracking down on impaired drivers.  The ACC and Big East are well below the Big 10 from top to bottom last year ESPN ranked the Big 10 2nd

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=sch...

Sports Illustrated ranks the ACC as the worse in the last decade

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/magazine/specials/2...



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Thank you for typing out what I was thinking so I didn't have to. Four away games, what a joke. My impatience for this scheduling extends to other teams as well, not just OSU. With that being said, boy I hate OSU.

I'm not a socialist; I'm a died-in-the-wool capitalists, but let me say this: Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical School has way too much money.  It's time for a little Teddy Roosevelt type trust busting, IMHO!
 

I agree with a lot of things said here, but have to agree more with Ozcat saying there is no way Boise State goes undefeated or even close to that in a week-to-week BCS conference. I just dont see it happening. What happens after they get through Virginia Tech and Oregon State? Oh yeah, they have to play the football powers of San Jose State, Idaho, Lousiana Tech, and Wyoming. Just plug them into a team's schedule in a BCS conference (other than the Big East unfortunately) and try to see how many games they win, honestly. Let's take Alabama's for an example just as a hypothetical...

My honest opinion, nothing more.

vs. San Jose St. W
vs. Penn State W (freshman QB and you got the blue field)
@ Duke W
@ Arkansas L
vs. Florida L
@ South Carolina TOSS UP, but I'll say W
vs. Ole Miss W
@ Tennessee W
@ LSU L
vs. Miss St. W
vs. Georgia State W
vs. Auburn L

That's 8-4 or 7-5 depending on how the South Carolina game turns out. The grind of the SEC season would begin to take its toll, maybe even after that so losing to an erratic Ole Miss team isn't out of the question the following week. Let's do another for fun...let's take...oh I dont know...Minnesota

@ Middle Tennessee W
vs. South Dakota W
vs. USC L
vs. Northern Illinois W
vs. Northwestern W
@ Wisconsin L
@ Purdue W
vs. Penn State W, only because its at home, but it will be tough
vs. Ohio State L
@ Michigan State I would go W, but it could be an L after playing two tough games
@ Illinois W
vs. Iowa L

Once again, 8-4 possibly 7-5. Late October and early November games in the Big Ten are no joke.


Their players would not hold up in a 12-game schedule like Alabama, Florida, Oregon, Wisconsin, etc. They are a finesse team, and when it comes down to the trenches they get dominated. Sure, they beat TCU last year, but it wasn't pretty by all means. Plus, they had to use a fake punt to put themselves in a position to win. And guess what, they probably will go undefeated and then win their BCS game because they are rested. Seriosly, how good do you think Alabama would be after they played the likes of a WAC schedule? They'd win their BCS game by 20+.

I like Boise, and I hope they run the table because I root for the little guy all the time, but honestly, I was kinda rooting for Virginia Tech last night just so I wouldnt have to hear about this stuff for the next three months.

  And, if they want OSU apologists pretending to be Bobcat fans they can PM you and OzCat. 

The whole debate over how would they do in the SEC or Big Ten is irrelevant.  That is not their responsibility.  As the SI article points out, if they start the season near the top and win out they put themselves in a position to win it all.  That is the angle they have to play and they are doing it well.  The argument about how they would do in the SEC is as relevant as Red Sox fans arguing that they should be in the playoffs because they are a better team than the Rangers and if the Sox played in the West division they would be in first place.  Doesn't matter. 

I have no doubt that given the opportunity to play in th Big 12 or Big Ten or PAC 10 year over year, Boise and Petersen would recruit a deeper team and continually compete for conference and national titles.  I also have no doubt that if for some unbelievable reason Ohio State was dropped out of the Big Ten and had to compete in the MAC, overtime, their recruiting would suffer and they would lose to the Purdues in their money game.

The system is in place.  They have their way in and they are in a position to pull it off.  What is so horrifying about them getting in to a title game?  They have yet to embarrass themselves in anyway in a game.  OSU, ALA , Texas know what they have to do to get to the title game - win all their games and win their conference.  Do it and you are in.  Lose a game and you lose control of your destiny.  That is one of the main reasons the BCS conference teams limit their risk in OOC.  Boise has now put themselves in the same position.  It took 3 to 4 years of stumble free ball, but they are there for now.  In doing so, they are a threat to OSU, ALA, etc. only if those teams lose and therefore lose control of their own destiny.