Dragon, what are you smoking here?  OCF is as big an OSU basher as they come on this site.  Just because someone got a higher ed degree from a school shows zero loyalty, it is simply a piece of paper.  Not to mention that OCF never failed his 300J class and had to stay in school an extra quarter.

Wow.

No one on this board should accuse another regular on this board of being an Ohio hater.

I was referring to comments in the paper about Flomo's article.

As far as my comments about those that  are making this the crime of the century.....I rest my case.

OMG is this conversation still actually going on?  Let it goooooooooooo!   I almost miss discussing college athletics finances and the budget crunch.

Let's get back to the original point of the post and SBH's assertion that the cheerleaders "clearly deserved" punishment. I disagree. By this logic, If someone on the football/basketball team knew that a player was going to purposely take out an opposing player, would the whole team be suspended?

And I think LC sums it up best here. Please re-read it.

Over. Done. Let's let the cheerleaders help the fans cheer on the Cats and beat BG.

You're the one with the OSU Master's Degree, Squared.  I'd never lower myself to that level.

Yes. What we need to do is exact our vengeance on this young man and sue the hell out of him!

That will show this kid who's in charge!

btw...if someone received a degree from Ohio State or Miami or Akron or Kent or....wherever, this does not deny them the credibility to speak on this topic.

Beyond this...if someone betters themselves by receiving additional degrees from other universities, this does not automatically disqualify them from a discussion on Ohio athletics...especially if they are fans of Ohio athletics.

We will put...what? 14-17 grand in Peden tomorrow? We will practically beg half of those to attend.

Right now we have an image problem not brought about by some kid who beat the heck out of Brutus the Buckeye. I think we may have a problem that we are still obsessed with a kid who beat up Brutus the Buckeye and NOT admiring the fact that our Athletic Department is basically whoring itself out to get an additional 7-9 grand to show up and watch us play Bowling Green instead of sitting at BW3s and watching 3-6-9 games on TV.

However...maybe our enthusiasm would be brought up a notch if any of the following could happen:
1. We scheduled a heck of a lot better at home (I know BG is a necessary home game) instead of some school from Louisiana coming up for a date that both schools hope is done and forgotten by midnight.
2. Rufus runs out and beats the heck out of something.
OR...
3. I didn't have to pay money to watch a terrible feed of said games above (FWIW...I won't because it's dumb....)

Dumb like this current discussion.

Go Ohio!

How is this a political issue? When someone is charged with a crime, the courts decide if the requisite elements of a crime are present. For an assault Brutus had to have fear that he would be hit and/or harmed, and the act had to be intentional and premeditated. I think all those elements were there. I'm not suggesting extracting a pound of flesh. What I think should have happened is that he should have been charged, and then a plea bargain taken giving him some community service obligations.

The only way I can see turning this into a political issue, and getting the thread sent to Siberia, is to try to draw analogies to the Church of Westboro case now in front of the Supreme Court, and claim that this act was acceptable as a form of free Speech that expressed a minority view. That case doesn't really apply, though, because in that case the people making the unpopular speech stayed where they were told, and did nothing violent. Therefore this isn't a fee speech issue, its a case of whether or not a crime was committed.

As for him being 19, lots of 19 year olds do things they shouldn't. When they do, sometimes there are consequences. I'm not suggesting hating him, or locking him in jail, just giving him a little community service time so that he can think about things. I think that's a lot more appropriate that punishing people who had nothing to do with it.

That depends on whether you believe my source or SBH's.  They are both sources who were in a place to know what actually happened, and they are telling different stories.  It's possible, if both sources are to be believed, that a few cheerleaders (maybe no more than one) knew -- at least vaguely -- of Rufus' intentions but the others did not.  If that's true, then it's still not appropriate to punish all of the cheerleaders for what a few might have known and didn't report. 

I agree with L.C.'s puzzlement over Alan's last post..  I don't have the slightest idea what relationship Alan sees between voting for the incumbent governor and the appropriate punishment for the Rufus' dude.  Seems like a non-sequitur to me.  And, BTW, I give Gov. Strickland big props for his decision to fund the Nelsonville Bypass with stimulus money.  He got a lot of heat from the Cleveland press over this, if you'll recall. 

Well, that would be different, if true. To this point it has only been alleged that they were aware of it, not that they had something to do with it. All I have seen thus far is that the kid came up with the idea on his on, planned it on his own, and executed it on his own. Then he walks away a celebrity, and others get punished.